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Good point thanks for that. What are your Dr.'s going to do for this.

manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote: Hi everyone

I just wanted to write and say that if there are people with a high

RBC count then its advisable you get a complete cardiology check up.

I went through chest x rays and EKGs and which all came back normal

but when I went and got an echocardiogram an ultrasound of the heart

they found an enlarged left atrium. Which my specialist is saying is

the cause of my high hematocrit.

Just thought I would throw it out there and maybe this might help

someone out there.

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The cause or the result?

I donate blood every 8 weeks and deal with shedding excess red blood

cells that way.

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--- manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote:

> Hi everyone

>

> I just wanted to write and say that if there are people with a high

> RBC count then its advisable you get a complete cardiology check up.

>

> I went through chest x rays and EKGs and which all came back normal

> but when I went and got an echocardiogram an ultrasound of the heart

> they found an enlarged left atrium. Which my specialist is saying is

> the cause of my high hematocrit.

>

> Just thought I would throw it out there and maybe this might help

> someone out there.

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Hi Phil

The Doctors are still scratching their heads LOL because they didn't

expect that to show up but

they didn't see any extra tissue growth or obstruction in the left

atrium in the echocardiogram so they are going to put me on meds to

slow or stop the arrythmia but my endo found that the dopamine was

not getting from my hypothalmic neurons to the pituitary gland so my

prolactin levels were always high and now they came back at 6 which

is near normal ranges for men. After being put on a dopamine

reuptake inhibitor.

I guess he is saying that he thinks it is a fluctuation of T4 that

is causing problems and arythmia that could have caused the

enlarging of the atrium. As I do have a hypoplasic anterior

pituitary (looks like pituitary stalk is affected) and so far its

only the prolactin that is out of whack and my LH levels and FSH

seem to fluctuate along with TSH. Which he says is what prolactin

does when it gets high shuts off LH FSH AND TSH.

SO the water is getting a little rough over here! As I have had to

stop the reuptake inhibition of dopamine meds and T since my wife

wants to try to have our second kid.

Go in for a follow up in a little while and we will see what my

normal status is because MY family doctor SCREWED UP AND NEVER DID A

COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN I FIRST GOT DIAGNOSED

and just started doing T shots but he is hearing about it from my

ENDO now. LOL

Manraj

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Good point thanks for that. What are your Dr.'s going to do for this.

manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote: Hi everyone

I just wanted to write and say that if there are people with a high

RBC count then its advisable you get a complete cardiology check up.

I went through chest x rays and EKGs and which all came back normal

but when I went and got an echocardiogram an ultrasound of the heart

they found an enlarged left atrium. Which my specialist is saying is

the cause of my high hematocrit.

Just thought I would throw it out there and maybe this might help

someone out there.

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you see. "

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Well you do know pituitary problems get worse for some as we get older. Mine is

not doing much anymore I am on every hormone that it makes now.

So keep an eye on this hell it took me 23 yrs to find out I have a pituitary

probelm.

manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote: Hi Phil

The Doctors are still scratching their heads LOL because they didn't

expect that to show up but

they didn't see any extra tissue growth or obstruction in the left

atrium in the echocardiogram so they are going to put me on meds to

slow or stop the arrythmia but my endo found that the dopamine was

not getting from my hypothalmic neurons to the pituitary gland so my

prolactin levels were always high and now they came back at 6 which

is near normal ranges for men. After being put on a dopamine

reuptake inhibitor.

I guess he is saying that he thinks it is a fluctuation of T4 that

is causing problems and arythmia that could have caused the

enlarging of the atrium. As I do have a hypoplasic anterior

pituitary (looks like pituitary stalk is affected) and so far its

only the prolactin that is out of whack and my LH levels and FSH

seem to fluctuate along with TSH. Which he says is what prolactin

does when it gets high shuts off LH FSH AND TSH.

SO the water is getting a little rough over here! As I have had to

stop the reuptake inhibition of dopamine meds and T since my wife

wants to try to have our second kid.

Go in for a follow up in a little while and we will see what my

normal status is because MY family doctor SCREWED UP AND NEVER DID A

COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN I FIRST GOT DIAGNOSED

and just started doing T shots but he is hearing about it from my

ENDO now. LOL

Manraj

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Good point thanks for that. What are your Dr.'s going to do for this.

manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote: Hi everyone

I just wanted to write and say that if there are people with a high

RBC count then its advisable you get a complete cardiology check up.

I went through chest x rays and EKGs and which all came back normal

but when I went and got an echocardiogram an ultrasound of the heart

they found an enlarged left atrium. Which my specialist is saying is

the cause of my high hematocrit.

Just thought I would throw it out there and maybe this might help

someone out there.

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you see. "

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Thanks Phil

I will keep an eye on it. I am so screwed up hormonally but if I

can get this behind me I might take a crack at med school.

Being through this journey I know that we need people out in the

medical field who know what its really like to be taking hormone

supplements and how to treat patients properly.

talk to ya later

Manraj

-- In , philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

wrote:

>

> Well you do know pituitary problems get worse for some as we get

older. Mine is not doing much anymore I am on every hormone that it

makes now.

> So keep an eye on this hell it took me 23 yrs to find out I have a

pituitary probelm.

> manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote: Hi Phil

>

> The Doctors are still scratching their heads LOL because they

didn't

> expect that to show up but

>

> they didn't see any extra tissue growth or obstruction in the left

> atrium in the echocardiogram so they are going to put me on meds

to

> slow or stop the arrythmia but my endo found that the dopamine was

> not getting from my hypothalmic neurons to the pituitary gland so

my

> prolactin levels were always high and now they came back at 6

which

> is near normal ranges for men. After being put on a dopamine

> reuptake inhibitor.

>

> I guess he is saying that he thinks it is a fluctuation of T4 that

> is causing problems and arythmia that could have caused the

> enlarging of the atrium. As I do have a hypoplasic anterior

> pituitary (looks like pituitary stalk is affected) and so far its

> only the prolactin that is out of whack and my LH levels and FSH

> seem to fluctuate along with TSH. Which he says is what prolactin

> does when it gets high shuts off LH FSH AND TSH.

>

> SO the water is getting a little rough over here! As I have had to

> stop the reuptake inhibition of dopamine meds and T since my wife

> wants to try to have our second kid.

> Go in for a follow up in a little while and we will see what my

> normal status is because MY family doctor SCREWED UP AND NEVER DID

A

> COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN I FIRST GOT DIAGNOSED

> and just started doing T shots but he is hearing about it from my

> ENDO now. LOL

>

> Manraj

>

> philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> Good point thanks for that. What are your Dr.'s going to do for

this.

>

> manraj2005 <no_reply > wrote: Hi everyone

>

> I just wanted to write and say that if there are people with a

high

> RBC count then its advisable you get a complete cardiology check

up.

>

> I went through chest x rays and EKGs and which all came back

normal

> but when I went and got an echocardiogram an ultrasound of the

heart

> they found an enlarged left atrium. Which my specialist is saying

is

> the cause of my high hematocrit.

>

> Just thought I would throw it out there and maybe this might help

> someone out there.

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of

what

> you see. "

> Phil

>

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On Tue, 29 May 2007 22:08:25 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi Phil

>

>The Doctors are still scratching their heads LOL because they didn't

>expect that to show up but

>

>they didn't see any extra tissue growth or obstruction in the left

>atrium in the echocardiogram so they are going to put me on meds to

>slow or stop the arrythmia but my endo found that the dopamine was

>not getting from my hypothalmic neurons to the pituitary gland so my

>prolactin levels were always high and now they came back at 6 which

>is near normal ranges for men. After being put on a dopamine

>reuptake inhibitor.

>

>I guess he is saying that he thinks it is a fluctuation of T4 that

>is causing problems and arythmia that could have caused the

>enlarging of the atrium. As I do have a hypoplasic anterior

>pituitary (looks like pituitary stalk is affected) and so far its

>only the prolactin that is out of whack and my LH levels and FSH

>seem to fluctuate along with TSH. Which he says is what prolactin

>does when it gets high shuts off LH FSH AND TSH.

>

>SO the water is getting a little rough over here! As I have had to

>stop the reuptake inhibition of dopamine meds and T since my wife

>wants to try to have our second kid.

>Go in for a follow up in a little while and we will see what my

>normal status is because MY family doctor SCREWED UP AND NEVER DID A

>COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN I FIRST GOT DIAGNOSED

>and just started doing T shots but he is hearing about it from my

>ENDO now. LOL

>

>Manraj

It's quite likely your low T is a result of high prolactin. Perhaps

with the medication for that, you won't need T. Then having a child

will be far easier! Look into it.

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It's not good it gets to thick and you can have a stroke or heart attack. If

you giving blood every 8 weeks you need to test your Ferritin and Iron levels

they can be low and this can make you fatigued and you can start to have

breathing problems. This happened to me my Hemoglobin, Red blood cell count and

Hematocrit are now above the normal range. But I am on Iron pill doing 212 mgs

of Elemental Iron a day. Dr. told me these levels will be high on a blood test

do to the iron pills and he has me stop taking them a week before testing. But

your giving blood like this to keep your hematocrit down can lower your Iron.

As for your E2 levels I use Indolplex/DIM to keep my E2 down this is sold OTC

and if you try this just take one at dinner time you can tell your E2 is down

because you will start geting back your night time and morning wood so strong it

will wake you up. I use this as a gage to keep from going down to low taking

Arimidex or Indolplex/DIM. So when you get wood like this your E2 is at it's

best level. Keep taking the Indolplex/DIM but if your wood stops and you can't

get it up your going down on your E2 " Estradiol " to low. So stop taking it

until your wood comes back then that day go back on it but cut the tablet in

half.

http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html

It is also good to take some TMG at bedtime this helps your liver wash out the

bad E's the DIM converts form the E2.

http://www.myvitanet.com/tmgtr75120ca.html

Here is a link about DIM if you try this use the brand I gave you a link to I

have tried a lot of different kinds of DIM and found most to be junk.

http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm

zorroceasar <zorroceasar@...> wrote:

hi

I am 50 year male

not overweigt ,secondary hypo

Takes T cypionate injection 100mg per week intra muscular

also HCG subq 250iU 2times per week

T is high end and E2 high after injections

libido very good

cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

it should be low

been on this regimen last 2 years

Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

down.

I donate blood every 2 months

My question

My red blood count is high end

Is this dangerous for forming clots

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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:38:15 -0000, you wrote:

> hi

>

>I am 50 year male

>not overweigt ,secondary hypo

>

>Takes T cypionate injection 100mg per week intra muscular

>also HCG subq 250iU 2times per week

>

>T is high end and E2 high after injections

>libido very good

>cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

>it should be low

>

>been on this regimen last 2 years

>Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

>down.

>

>I donate blood every 2 months

>My question

>My red blood count is high end

>Is this dangerous for forming clots

>

>

>

You can take aspirin every day to help thin it also, if your stomach

can tolerate aspirin. 81 mg a day. I use enteric coated time

released. It passes the stomach and dissolves more in the intestines.

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I just was in the hospital for a false alarm heart attack. Full

cardiac workup over two days. The cardiologist was not at all

concerned over hematocrit at the absolute top of the range, and told

me that it was platelet count that was the real indicator of risk.

On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:38 PM, " zorroceasar " <zorroceasar@...>

wrote:

> hi

>

> I am 50 year male

> not overweigt ,secondary hypo

>

> Takes T cypionate injection 100mg per week intra muscular

> also HCG subq 250iU 2times per week

>

> T is high end and E2 high after injections

> libido very good

> cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

> it should be low

>

> been on this regimen last 2 years

> Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

> down.

>

> I donate blood every 2 months

> My question

> My red blood count is high end

> Is this dangerous for forming clots

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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If your crit gets too high that means that you have too many red

blood cells. If the RBC cout get over range they can start blocking

the smaller blood vessels. This can lead to muscle & head aches. If

it gets higher then the clots & strokes can occur.

Give to the Red Cross a pint of blood every 2 months to keep it

thinned out.

>

> > hi

> >

> > I am 50 year male

> > not overweigt ,secondary hypo

> >

> > Takes T cypionate injection 100mg per week intra muscular

> > also HCG subq 250iU 2times per week

> >

> > T is high end and E2 high after injections

> > libido very good

> > cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

> > it should be low

> >

> > been on this regimen last 2 years

> > Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

> > down.

> >

> > I donate blood every 2 months

> > My question

> > My red blood count is high end

> > Is this dangerous for forming clots

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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On my labs my Platelet Count is 183 range 140 to 400 Thousans and this is on

Iron pills.

Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote: I just was in the hospital for a

false alarm heart attack. Full

cardiac workup over two days. The cardiologist was not at all

concerned over hematocrit at the absolute top of the range, and told

me that it was platelet count that was the real indicator of risk.

On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:38 PM, " zorroceasar " <zorroceasar@...>

wrote:

> hi

>

> I am 50 year male

> not overweigt ,secondary hypo

>

> Takes T cypionate injection 100mg per week intra muscular

> also HCG subq 250iU 2times per week

>

> T is high end and E2 high after injections

> libido very good

> cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

> it should be low

>

> been on this regimen last 2 years

> Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

> down.

>

> I donate blood every 2 months

> My question

> My red blood count is high end

> Is this dangerous for forming clots

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Now I am on Iron pills 4 months now and my count is high above range on a number

of the tests.

Red Blood Cell Count.

Hemoglobin

Hematocrit

RDW

MPV

Absolute Neutrophiss

Yet my labs for Ferritin are still dam low stated at 18 now now after 4 months

only 31 Dr. said he wants it above 100.

I posted this at Dr. 's and everyone told me I need to give blood. My Dr.

said it's high because of the iron pills and if I gave blood my Iron would fall

even more.

gin2c <no_reply > wrote:

If your crit gets too high that means that you have too many red

blood cells. If the RBC cout get over range they can start blocking

the smaller blood vessels. This can lead to muscle & head aches. If

it gets higher then the clots & strokes can occur.

Give to the Red Cross a pint of blood every 2 months to keep it

thinned out.

>

> > hi

> >

> > I am 50 year male

> > not overweigt ,secondary hypo

> >

> > Takes T cypionate injection 100mg per week intra muscular

> > also HCG subq 250iU 2times per week

> >

> > T is high end and E2 high after injections

> > libido very good

> > cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

> > it should be low

> >

> > been on this regimen last 2 years

> > Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

> > down.

> >

> > I donate blood every 2 months

> > My question

> > My red blood count is high end

> > Is this dangerous for forming clots

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:38:15 -0000, you wrote:

>been on this regimen last 2 years

>Doctor does not want to give something to bring high E2

>down.

>

>I donate blood every 2 months

>My question

>My red blood count is high end

What are you calling high?

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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:38:15 -0000, you wrote:

>T is high end and E2 high after injections

>libido very good

>cant understand it cause all literature suggets with high E2

>it should be low

Not really. There's at least three parts to sex drive. One is libido,

- appeal interest; the other is physical arousal - the erection and

then physical enjoyment/pleasure. With high E2 you can have a strong

desire and weak erection or none.

With low E2 you end up with no libido and no arousal. Someone

described sex with low E2 as felling about as good as a handshake.

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