Statin study: Lower cholesterol, diminished joy of sex linked

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By Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY

The greater the drop in cholesterol from taking statin drugs, the more

sexual pleasure is reduced, suggests a study due Friday at the American

Psychosomatic Society meeting in Chicago.

This may be the first research to pit statins against placebos to see

how the blockbuster statins affect the ability to have orgasms. Statins

generated about $13.1 billion in sales last year, according to IMS Health.

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Amazing how people get more concerned over being able to get a hardon than bone

marrow cancer! Statins are bullshit and just another FDA bufa and your

government out to protect you from the evils of Cuban sugarcane!

Policosanol, derived from sugarcane wax is 15% more effective in reducing LDL

and increases HDL simultaneously. Also, there has been clinical publications

that statins are causing bone marrow disruptions/cancer.

Policosanol is also a blood thinning platelet reducer and should not be used

with any other form of thrombotic or thinner/platlet control med such, as

without limitation, aspirin, coumadin, warfarin, etc.......

>

> By Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY

> The greater the drop in cholesterol from taking statin drugs, the more

> sexual pleasure is reduced, suggests a study due Friday at the American

> Psychosomatic Society meeting in Chicago.

>

> This may be the first research to pit statins against placebos to see

> how the blockbuster statins affect the ability to have orgasms. Statins

> generated about $13.1 billion in sales last year, according to IMS Health.

>

> ARTICLE CONTINUES:

> http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-03-05-statinsex_N.htm

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[Guest guest]

My purpose in posting this article here was to alert anyone who was

experiences diminished sexual ability/enjoyment/drive that statin drugs

are also implicated in addition to hormonal issues.

I'm not pro statin.

I don't think policosanol works very well either. I tried it at least

two times with pre and post blood work and it did NADA. And yes, I used

the " correct " form. The studies on it are less that impressive since

they involve such small cohorts and mixed results but I tried anyway. I

consider the warnings on policosanol BS as well. I've taking all the

following concurrently including aspirin, policosanol, ginkgo, fish oil,

vitamin E (all 8 isomers) and a dozen other things that ostensibly thin

the blood and had INR tests several times with exactly normal results, 1.0.

The thyroid drug T3 however works well for correcting cholesterol issues

(or Armour can be used). High cholesterol used to be considered a

symptom of low thyroid until statins came along. T3 is working for me

on cholesterol issues and I it normalizes metabolism rather than

directly mucking with cholesterol and CoQ10 synthesis.

Steve

tomubl wrote:

> Amazing how people get more concerned over being able to get a hardon than

bone marrow cancer! Statins are bullshit and just another FDA bufa and your

government out to protect you from the evils of Cuban sugarcane!

>

> Policosanol, derived from sugarcane wax is 15% more effective in reducing LDL

and increases HDL simultaneously. Also, there has been clinical publications

that statins are causing bone marrow disruptions/cancer.

>

> Policosanol is also a blood thinning platelet reducer and should not be used

with any other form of thrombotic or thinner/platlet control med such, as

without limitation, aspirin, coumadin, warfarin, etc.......

>

>

>> By Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY

>> The greater the drop in cholesterol from taking statin drugs, the more

>> sexual pleasure is reduced, suggests a study due Friday at the American

>> Psychosomatic Society meeting in Chicago.

>>

>> This may be the first research to pit statins against placebos to see

>> how the blockbuster statins affect the ability to have orgasms. Statins

>> generated about $13.1 billion in sales last year, according to IMS Health.

>>

>> ARTICLE CONTINUES:

>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-03-05-statinsex_N.htm

>>

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>> Steve - dudescholar4@...

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[Guest guest]

On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:26:14 -0000, you wrote:

>

>Amazing how people get more concerned over being able to get a hardon than bone

marrow cancer! Statins are bullshit and just another FDA bufa and your

government out to protect you from the evils of Cuban sugarcane!

>

>Policosanol, derived from sugarcane wax is 15% more effective in reducing LDL

and increases HDL simultaneously. Also, there has been clinical publications

that statins are causing bone marrow disruptions/cancer.

>

>Policosanol is also a blood thinning platelet reducer and should not be used

with any other form of thrombotic or thinner/platlet control med such, as

without limitation, aspirin, coumadin, warfarin, etc.......

" However, almost all of the 80+ double-blind studies on sugarcane

policosanol were conducted by a single research group in Cuba that

owns the policosanol patent.

An independent study published in the Journal of the American Medical

Association in 2006 did not find any benefit of policosanol, even at

high doses, on cholesterol profile. This finding has casted some doubt

on the reliability of the Cuban research on policosanol. "

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/policosanol/a/policosanol.htm

[Guest guest]

>

> Amazing how people get more concerned over being able to get a hardon > than

bone marrow cancer! Statins are bullshit

Hi,

since going on TRT my LDL has dropped, by BP dropped, my weight has dropped, my

body FAT had dropped, strength and muscle have INCREASED, my libido has

increased.

so I get the better cholesterol of the statins PLUS loads of benefits!

[Guest guest]

, I wonder if they have a vested interest in the multi billion dollar

revenue generated by warfarin. coumadin, plavix, crestor, lipitor etc.

Your statements about policosanol is the same reason why nattokinase is not

promoted, which has superior thrombotic ability when compared to

coumadin/warfarin and has more than one university study behind it that

demonstrates how it disapates clots faster than coumadin/warfarin. However

Natto does not have a means to measure levels like coumadin does with INR

Protime testing and Natto as a preventative to clot formations has no clinicals

to back it.

Same goes for Artemisinin, which has been shown to stop 55 strains of cancer if

caught before going systemic although one study was by Case Western Reserve.

Few know about any of these alternatives and for only two reasons GREED and

POPULATION CONTROL. Warfarin stands for Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation.

That's right every tab of warfarin sold profits the university.

This is what your FDA not only allows but promotes in enrichment and

fortification programs and is probably why many are here with HRT and hypogonad

issues without even knowing it.

Note: not just limited to cereal.

Any idea what iron filings does to your beta cells? You probably will not find

a NIH publication on that either. Care to guess how many with type ii diabetes

is caused by the bogus iron. Keep in mind he only used about 1/3 of a box of

cereal. Bagels are loaded in fact the basics like flours and pasta is terrible.

Best to go to rice flour and supplement with a colloidal or angstrom type iron

with the proper polarities.

By me having hemochromatosis, the leading genetic disorder in the U.S., it

brought it to the surface with me because of my sensitivity to iron. The FDA as

not only required non bio available enrichment and fortification programs but

also is responsible for setting ridiculously high Fe ranges. This was also the

disorder on Mystery Diagnosis where the triathlete marathon runner was turning

bronze and falling apart.

Fe is the transport protein that mobilizes and readies the iron for use by the

red blood cells. However the " IRON FILLINGS " can only have a partial leeching

affect on the red cells nuclei as it gets trapped with other " Total Dissolved

Solids " on the extracellular wall of the red blood cell. Red blood cells require

iron to be less than 1 micron (angstrom) in size and of a polarity that is

similar to the polarity conversion found in iron that has been processed through

plant life and photosynthesis.

You may want to have your Fe checked. I keep mine borderline anemic at 15-20,

however a range under 100 would probably be alright for non hemochromatosis or

other iron overload disorder (IOD) people. Unfortunately depending on the test

center some ranges are as high as 800, which is devastating. Most know that

blood ranges are age adjusted and center devised.

Also, regarding policosanol, I took it and it works. I have the labs to prove it

and I will definitely tell you it has platelet reducing thinning components to

the extent that if I can stabilize my out of rhythm heart (atril fibrillation)

with HRT (which my P wave has started to express again since starting with

testosterone) I will be taking myself off of coumadin and going to a

policosanol/natto combo, which will result in platelet reduction, cholesterol

maintenance, thrombotic prevention and dissipation and enzymatic therapy since

natto is a enzymatic enhancer as well. Do you really expect anyone to fund a

clinical study in the U.S. for a country labeled a communist threat, you can

thank Joe Kennedy the bootlegger for that?

Conversely, the FDA has allowed thousands of cardiac/pulmonary vein ablations

(PVI's) to be conducted although it is still considered experimental and usually

only has an efficacy for 6 months, which is their benchmark for success after

having scare tissue burned into your heart at 212 degrees for 12 hours of

operating. The same FDA has allowed the statins that are now causing impotence,

memory loss and has recently been cited for bone marrow disturbances and

possibly cancer.

Thanks for the opportunity to share.

Tom U

>

> >

> >Amazing how people get more concerned over being able to get a hardon than

bone marrow cancer! Statins are bullshit and just another FDA bufa and your

government out to protect you from the evils of Cuban sugarcane!

> >

> >Policosanol, derived from sugarcane wax is 15% more effective in reducing LDL

and increases HDL simultaneously. Also, there has been clinical publications

that statins are causing bone marrow disruptions/cancer.

> >

> >Policosanol is also a blood thinning platelet reducer and should not be used

with any other form of thrombotic or thinner/platlet control med such, as

without limitation, aspirin, coumadin, warfarin, etc.......

>

>

> " However, almost all of the 80+ double-blind studies on sugarcane

> policosanol were conducted by a single research group in Cuba that

> owns the policosanol patent.

>

> An independent study published in the Journal of the American Medical

> Association in 2006 did not find any benefit of policosanol, even at

> high doses, on cholesterol profile. This finding has casted some doubt

> on the reliability of the Cuban research on policosanol. "

> http://altmedicine.about.com/od/policosanol/a/policosanol.htm

>

[Guest guest]

Very interesting.  I was on statins for 2 years and had severe prostate pain and

rectal pain, 24/7.  It got to the point where I could not sit down.  Spent 15

months going to the urologist getting antibiotics, anti-imflammatories,

prostatic massages, cultures, lab tests, urethral endoscope.  Everything was

negative.  I found two articles in the literature that said the statins had

caused prostate pain in two men that were related to the statins.  Pain stopped

when the statins were stopped.  I also found a blog site with hundreds of men

who reported prostate pain and a lack of sex drive when they were started on

statins.  So, I stopped taking Lipitor 40 mg. and all of my pain stopped.  I

confronted my PCP of 20 years and he told me I was crazy, that I was

deliberately making this up.  I told him to go f**k himself and found a new doc

that put me on Zetia 10 mg which is minimally effective, but diet has been the

best.  My LDL is 130, HDL 52 and

total 230, without meds.  My new doc said that prostate pain is not a common

side effect, until I presented the two articles.  Now I have more proof.

I agree that this is a billion dollar market and it's about time there are

studies that at least document the decreased quality of life issues of statins,

especially in men that are supposed to increase our life.  American doctors do

not report the side effects that patients complain about to the FDA as they are

mandated to do, if they are prescribing these drugs.  I use 2.5 Gm a day of

AndroGel and the increased boost of T has definitely increased my cholesterol. 

I tried Red Yeast Rice and prostate pain returned.  So, I exercise when I can,

eat low fat and low cholesterol diet and forget about it.

 

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Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:51:21 PM

Subject: Statin study: Lower cholesterol, diminished joy of sex

linked

By Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY

The greater the drop in cholesterol from taking statin drugs, the more

sexual pleasure is reduced, suggests a study due Friday at the American

Psychosomatic Society meeting in Chicago.

This may be the first research to pit statins against placebos to see

how the blockbuster statins affect the ability to have orgasms. Statins

generated about $13.1 billion in sales last year, according to IMS Health.

ARTICLE CONTINUES:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-03-05-statinsex_N.htm

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[Guest guest]

Statins are likely well over prescrined and can have some devastating side

effects. There are some folks by an unlikely draw of the genes need statins

because their bodies produce way too much cholesterol; these folks are rare.

Most of us can control cholesterol well enough to avoid statins. I am not

anti-drug at all but I must admit that expecting total cholesterols < 180

soundslike a MD/drug company scheme to make money.

total acceptable cholesterols went from

240 to

220 to

200 to

180

call me skeptical!!!!!!!

Statin study: Lower cholesterol, diminished joy of sex

linked

By Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY

The greater the drop in cholesterol from taking statin drugs, the more

sexual pleasure is reduced, suggests a study due Friday at the American

Psychosomatic Society meeting in Chicago.

This may be the first research to pit statins against placebos to see

how the blockbuster statins affect the ability to have orgasms. Statins

generated about $13.1 billion in sales last year, according to IMS Health.

ARTICLE CONTINUES:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-03-05-statinsex_N.htm

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