Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hi Kipp, It depends on when the test was taken, in terms of time after application of the gel. Also, if the blood is drawn from the same area the gel is applied to, the numbers can go through the roof! How are you feeling on 10g a day? Nick Nick O'Hara Author, The Testosterone Deficiency Centre (www.androids.org.uk) Associate Editor The Testicular Cancer Resource Center (tcrc.acor.org) Livestrong Community Leader The Lance Armstrong Foundation (www.LAF.org) Fundraiser Everyman Cancer Research www.justgiving.com/nickohs PS, if you want a hoot check out the vid at…. http://www.cosmopolitan.co.uk/men/cosmopolitan-men-in-pant-world-record/video From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kipp Kruse Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: testosterone numbers I just got my testosterone labs back 11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) never had this scale before-- last time had a total tesosterone = 600+ I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this high on androgel?? I am confused!!! -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I have never seen a range like this for total T are you sure it's not Free or the wrong test. The units are not the same as mine ng/ml my range and units at Quest labs is 250 to 1100 ng/dL. Yet me Free units and range is 46 to 224 pg/ml. Yet your range is above the top of the range you give. Always make dam sure from labs to labs you do the same test I give them the numbers so this does not happen. I can't convert ng/ml into ng/dL after bypass heart sugary my head does not work just the well yet. Maybe some one here knows how to do this. If after doing the conversion and your below 600 you might need to switch to shots gels do stop working for some of us. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Kipp Kruse <kckruse@...> > Subject: testosterone numbers > > Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:27 AM > I just got my testosterone labs back > > 11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) > > never had this scale before-- last time had a total > tesosterone = 600+ > > I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this high on > androgel?? I am confused!!! > > > > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:27:17 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: >I just got my testosterone labs back > >11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) > >never had this scale before-- last time had a total tesosterone = 600+ > >I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this high on androgel?? I am confused!!! dl is .1 liter. ml. is .001 liter. 11.05 = 1105. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:27:17 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: >I just got my testosterone labs back > >11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) > >never had this scale before-- last time had a total tesosterone = 600+ > >I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this high on androgel?? I am confused!!! dl is .1 liter. ml. is .001 liter. 11.05 = 1105. WOW-- that is high-- something is amiss!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Thanks reto and this kind of tells me he put the gel on first then did the test. Or did not shower off the last days gel and did the test never see levels this high on 10 grams of androgel. If when they took the blood and there was old gel on the spot this can Spike up the test. Co-Moderator Phil > > >I just got my testosterone labs back > > > >11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) > > > >never had this scale before-- last time had a total > tesosterone = 600+ > > > >I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this high > on androgel?? I am confused!!! > > dl is .1 liter. ml. is .001 liter. 11.05 = 1105. > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 MY THEORY---I put androgel on at 2 pm the previous day after a shower. In the early morning I did 45 mins of cardio (sweat like crazy) I changed t shirts then went direcrly to labfor blood tests. I don't know if this makes any sense but I think that perhaps the androgel residue from the previous day application ran down my arms with sweat. Am I making any sense? I am getting retested!!! Re: testosterone numbers Thanks reto and this kind of tells me he put the gel on first then did the test. Or did not shower off the last days gel and did the test never see levels this high on 10 grams of androgel. If when they took the blood and there was old gel on the spot this can Spike up the test. Co-Moderator Phil > > >I just got my testosterone labs back > > > >11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) > > > >never had this scale before-- last time had a total > tesosterone = 600+ > > > >I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this high > on androgel?? I am confused!!! > > dl is .1 liter. ml. is .001 liter. 11.05 = 1105. > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yes this spiked your test up best to shower first thing in the morning then do labs about 8am. If you can't do this on your lab day don't get gel on the part or even near the spot where they take the blood. Do the labs 6 hrs later. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > >I just got my testosterone labs back > > > > > >11.05 ng/ml range (1.75 - 7.81) > > > > > >never had this scale before-- last time had a > total > > tesosterone = 600+ > > > > > >I take androgel 10 g/day-- can I get numbers this > high > > on androgel?? I am confused!!! > > > > dl is .1 liter. ml. is .001 liter. 11.05 = 1105. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:29:21 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Thanks reto and this kind of tells me he put the gel on first then did the test. Or did not shower off the last days gel and did the test never see levels this high on 10 grams of androgel. If when they took the blood and there was old gel on the spot this can Spike up the test. >Co-Moderator For me, it's what I would have expected when it was working for me. I hit 750 on 7.5. So I'd expect around 1000 on a ten g dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Who now I never got over 550 and have seen men as high as 600 never seen one this high in 10 grams of gels. But then most men that start TRT and feel better stop posting. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > >Thanks reto and this kind of tells me he put the gel on > first then did the test. Or did not shower off the > last days gel and did the test never see levels this high on > 10 grams of androgel. If when they took the blood and > there was old gel on the spot this can Spike up the test. > >Co-Moderator > > > For me, it's what I would have expected when it was working > for me. I > hit 750 on 7.5. So I'd expect around 1000 on a ten g dose. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > > > > >Thanks reto and this kind of tells me he put the gel on first then did the test. Or did not shower off the last days gel and did the test never see levels this high on 10 grams of androgel. If when they took the blood and there was old gel on the spot this can Spike up the test. > >Co-Moderator > > > For me, it's what I would have expected when it was working for me. I > hit 750 on 7.5. So I'd expect around 1000 on a ten g dose. > I am on 10g a day and my T was above 1000 and for anyones info i dont apply gel to my right arm at all and they take bloods from right arm,,i have a hot shower in the evening and straight afterwards apply gel to upper thighs and left shoulder,,,i think the larger the area of skin you apply the gel to the better the absorption,,,i seen a video demo of how to apply gel and the person squeezed all the gel into his palm and rubbed it onto his shoulders now common sense tells you that doing it that way is the same as throwing two thirds of the gel away...Im willing to bet that 5g a day could still give you good results if the gel is applied similar to what i do...thanks..bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I guess your one of the lucky ones most of us can't get past 600 for Total T on 10 grams of gel your the second one this last week that I seen doing higher levels. I use to put the gel in my hand and spread it on my upper arms and shoulders and down my back as far as I could reach. Best Total T I got was about 550 so I tried putting it on the inside of my thighs and on my lower sides of my waist. Using a baby jar so I was not wasting it in my hands. Still my levels were no different. I had sore joints and muscles the whole time on gels and it got so bad I was house bound Dr. felt it was Arthritis. After yrs of this crap I posted about my pain and one of the guys got back to me saying he had the same problem he is still a member here. He said he switched to shots and the pain went away. Well at the time my Dr. had me on the gels and was giving me a 200 mg shot of T every 2 weeks to keep my levels up. Doing this drove my Estradiol levels nuts so we switched to just shots doing them every week. In time my pain was gone and I would back to normal working outside and walking again for exercise. I started back at the gym working out 3 days a week and lost that yr. 65 lbs. I feel today after having bypass heart sugary and being taken off TRT and my HCG now I have this same dam pain. My Heart Dr. told me it can take 6 months to get them back to normal because to add to being off TRT I was out cold 17 weeks in ICU. Co-Moderator Phil > From: korpelo55 <korpelo55@...> > Subject: Re: testosterone numbers > > Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 2:14 AM > > > > > > > > >Thanks reto and this kind of tells me he put the > gel on first then did the test. Or did not shower off > the last days gel and did the test never see levels this > high on 10 grams of androgel. If when they took the > blood and there was old gel on the spot this can Spike up > the test. > > >Co-Moderator > > > > > > For me, it's what I would have expected when it was > working for me. I > > hit 750 on 7.5. So I'd expect around 1000 on a ten g > dose. > > > I am on 10g a day and my T was above 1000 and for anyones > info i dont apply gel to my right arm at all and they take > bloods from right arm,,i have a hot shower in the evening > and straight afterwards apply gel to upper thighs and left > shoulder,,,i think the larger the area of skin you apply the > gel to the better the absorption,,,i seen a video demo of > how to apply gel and the person squeezed all the gel into > his palm and rubbed it onto his shoulders now common sense > tells you that doing it that way is the same as throwing two > thirds of the gel away...Im willing to bet that 5g a day > could still give you good results if the gel is applied > similar to what i do...thanks..bye > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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