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I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of years

now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look much

healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of developing

diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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I was on testim (gel) for years and my blood got real thick. Switched

to shots every 10 days and blood went back to normal thickness.

T thearpy is NOT a treatment for ED. You may get a boost at first but

it will fade away. ED is a different ball game than low T.

For erections try VED thearpy or the pills V, C, & L. If all that fails

yow will probally need an implant. That is my experiance.

Jack

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> I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of years

> now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

> and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look

much

> healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of

developing

> diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

> wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

> has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

> disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

> can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

> Any advice would be appreciated.

>

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What test measures " blood thickness " ??

Neil

JACKPINNER wrote:

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> I was on testim (gel) for years and my blood got real thick. Switched

> to shots every 10 days and blood went back to normal thickness.

> T thearpy is NOT a treatment for ED. You may get a boost at first but

> it will fade away. ED is a different ball game than low T.

> For erections try VED thearpy or the pills V, C, & L. If all that fails

> yow will probally need an implant. That is my experiance.

> Jack

>

>

> >

> > I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of years

> > now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

> > and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look

> much

> > healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> > intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of

> developing

> > diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

> > wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

> > has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

> > disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

> > can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

> > Any advice would be appreciated.

> >

>

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> I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of years

> now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

> and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look much

> healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of developing

> diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

> wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

> has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

> disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

> can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

> Any advice would be appreciated.

Testosterone replace can raise estradiol, especially

gels/creams/patches. Elevated estradiol can give some men ED.

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Blood thickness is a little of a misnomer. TRT can sometimes cause

elevated Hemoglobin and Hematocrit which essentially means " too much

blood " (high blood volume) because TRT can cause overproduction of red

blood cells.

This is why blood testing is very important while on TRT. If

Hematocrit and Hemoglobin start to get high or are high then donating

blood will bring the numbers down.

So in other words Hemoglobin and Hematocrit tests measure " blood

thickness. "

An important side note to this is to ALWAYS stay hydrated while on TRT

(drink plenty of water) and take a low dose aspirin once a day. That

advice comes from Phil actually.

> > >

> > > I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of

years

> > > now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

> > > and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look

> > much

> > > healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> > > intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of

> > developing

> > > diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

> > > wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

> > > has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

> > > disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

> > > can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

> > > Any advice would be appreciated.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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coag

Mine 10/22 at Vanderbilt was

Patient (PT) 13.8 INR 1.1

I know that when I was being treated for A-Fib (surgical accident)

they put me on warfarin and the INR was 2.5

Dont have a clue at to what it was before but arthritis doctor

complained that it was too thick before going from gels to shots.

After goint to shots he said it returned to normal.

If you are going to have surgery they want the INR in the 1.0 range,

the 2.5 is to thin for surgery.

> > >

> > > I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of

years

> > > now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter,

slimmer

> > > and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I

look

> > much

> > > healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> > > intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of

> > developing

> > > diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I

was

> > > wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my

blood

> > > has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe

erectile

> > > disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much

worse. I

> > > can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain

one.

> > > Any advice would be appreciated.

> > >

> >

> >

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Hi,

You didn't give your age.

Many men suffer ED and find out it is due to diabetes which has gone

undetected until now. Diabetes frequently damages the nerves vital to

an erection. The pills will help these nerves for a period of time

until the damage becomes too great.

When you first go on TRT in about 2 weeks and for maybe 6 weeks while

your T level is increasing to the new stable level, your erections

will be easy and frequent. It is like a miracle and then it stops

because the T level is now stable, I was told. Terrible.

I had started TRT at age 61 after having lots of trouble with ED

becoming more and more of a problem. There were no pills in 1991 and I

found a book written by Dr. Irwin Goldstein, Boston Univ. then and

drove most of the day there and back to get a sample injection of

trimix. Injecting into the side of the penis was a terrible thought

but was immediately not a problem when I saw a 4 hour erection happen.

It was brought down easily with another injection.

When urologists checked you then, if you had nocturnal erections, he

blamed you for having mental hangups with your wife and it was all

your fault and you refuse to acknowledge it. Guilt was falsely placed

on the patient making the condition worse.

I started injection therapy for ED and have been using it since with

no change in its benefit. Some few patients receiving injection

therapy have had severe complications, perhaps because of high blood

pressure but not sure about that. Talk to any urologist that provides

injection therapy about the risks.

TRT does not cure ED unless you are having a developmental problem

perhaps.

ernestnolan

>

> I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of years

> now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

> and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look much

> healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of developing

> diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

> wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

> has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

> disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

> can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

> Any advice would be appreciated.

>

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Hi,

You didn't give your age.

Many men suffer ED and find out it is due to diabetes which has gone

undetected until now. Diabetes frequently damages the nerves vital to

an erection. The pills will help these nerves for a period of time

until the damage becomes too great.

When you first go on TRT in about 2 weeks and for maybe 6 weeks while

your T level is increasing to the new stable level, your erections

will be easy and frequent. It is like a miracle and then it stops

because the T level is now stable, I was told. Terrible.

I had started TRT at age 61 after having lots of trouble with ED

becoming more and more of a problem. There were no pills in 1991 and I

found a book written by Dr. Irwin Goldstein, Boston Univ. then and

drove most of the day there and back to get a sample injection of

trimix. Injecting into the side of the penis was a terrible thought

but was immediately not a problem when I saw a 4 hour erection happen.

It was brought down easily with another injection.

When urologists checked you then, if you had nocturnal erections, he

blamed you for having mental hangups with your wife and it was all

your fault and you refuse to acknowledge it. Guilt was falsely placed

on the patient making the condition worse.

I started injection therapy for ED and have been using it since with

no change in its benefit. Some few patients receiving injection

therapy have had severe complications, perhaps because of high blood

pressure but not sure about that. Talk to any urologist that provides

injection therapy about the risks.

TRT does not cure ED unless you are having a developmental problem

perhaps.

ernestnolan

>

> I have been on testosterone replacement therapy for a couple of years

> now with generally very positive results. I am much fitter, slimmer

> and better motivated, particularly in work. Everybody says I look much

> healthier, and am much calmer and less edgy. Also, my glucose

> intolerance has much improved, so I am at much less risk of developing

> diabetes. However, there have been 2 negative side-effects. I was

> wondering if anybody could advise me as to these. Firstly, my blood

> has become a lot thicker. Secondly, I now have very severe erectile

> disfunction. It has always been a problem, but is now much worse. I

> can hardly ever get an erection at all,and can never sustain one.

> Any advice would be appreciated.

>

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