Re: Need Pellet information

[Guest guest]

Hi Norton,

Yep it's collage but I am sure there are others.

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/menshealth/andropause.asp

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Phil

> From: kahrcw9 <no_reply >

> Subject: Need Pellet information

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:47 PM

> Hi all, some of you may remember me from over the years, I

> have not

> posted in quite a while. Anyway, my endo seems agreeable

> to trying

> testosterone pellet implants with me and he has asked me to

> get some

> information for him. So, anyone give me the name of the

> pharmacy, I

> think it is in Colorado, that sells the pellets to docs, is

> it collage?

> How about infor on how many pellets of how many milligrams

> to last a

> couple of months, I weigh about 185?

> Anyone here besides Ernest on pellets now, your thoughts?

> thanks all

> norton

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, if you want pellets here is what you need to know. Only fused

pellets, make sure to ask if they are fused or compressed. Fused last

4-6 months and compressed pellets last 6-8 weeks and dump the T fast

and irregularly. Second don't use the 75mg or 100mg unless to do fine

dosage adjustments. The more pellets implanted in the same track the

more likely your will reject. Have some topical testosterone on hand

near the end in case you need a top off which happens sometimes. Find

someone who really knows how to implant these and be sterile. Phil or

Earnst can tell you the formula for dosage which is intended for use

with the fused implants not the compressed ones.

Whoever makes them, make sure you know the conditions of the lab and

follow strict aftercare. Suture the area shut, it is just a better

wound closure. Pellets need to be at least 5 inches from the incision

site to lower rejection rates and gravity plays a role in movement so

place the pellet below the incision. Make sure as much air is removed

from the pocket and tape around the pellets. Then put a tensor/ Ace

bandage around the area for a week. If you have any problems go back

to the tape and bandage until the area settles down. Be gentle and

consider your lifestyle when choosing implant sites. Consider never

implanting more then two and ideally one pellet per track, having the

implanter create a T shape at the end of the track to hold the pellets

a bit and take it easy until they are healed.

A good implanter can look at an area with what he is implanting and

see the perfect spot in your skin where nature will help the pellets

stay in place. A bad doctor will shove them in and not know different

or care. My surgeon stared at the area and felt it while thinking for

about 10 minutes and before he began did it all over again so he could

understand the dynamics of my skin *before* implanting anything. Avoid

the hip area for implanting, it is high risk for rejections.

trannyboy

[Guest guest]

Bartor Pharmacal of Rye, NY is one of the earliest pellet producers

for the very early years when Dr. Greenblatt, Augusta GA, was involved

in his work in hormone therapy for both men and women since the

1950's. Many now provide these pellets. He takes doctors calls. A

relative produces the E hormone for women.

Dr. Natrajan of Augusta, GA has a web site and is one of the survivors

also trained by Dr. Greenblatt.

It is not an easy move to become familiar with the use of the trocar

for insertion of the pellets. The placement of the pellets for

effectiveness and safety is also essential training is required. You

should not be a training aid.

http://members.aol.com/natrajan9/index.htm

This address must change within 30 days as AOL is dropping web space

for subscribers.

ernestnolan

>

> Hi all, some of you may remember me from over the years, I have not

> posted in quite a while. Anyway, my endo seems agreeable to trying

> testosterone pellet implants with me and he has asked me to get some

> information for him. So, anyone give me the name of the pharmacy, I

> think it is in Colorado, that sells the pellets to docs, is it collage?

> How about infor on how many pellets of how many milligrams to last a

> couple of months, I weigh about 185?

> Anyone here besides Ernest on pellets now, your thoughts?

> thanks all

> norton

>

[Guest guest]

I have been using pellets for the past year and a half, and I must say

that I like not having to worry about applying gels or creams. The

implant proceedure is really not that bad, and I have only had one

pellet come out.

Since going on pellets, I have not been getting anywhere near the E2

as a result of aromitisatin.

My doctor gets his pellets from the following provider.

http://www.sottopellelife.com/

However, my insurance plan views these pellets as experimental

medication as they are from a compounding pharmacy. However, my plan

will pay a portion of the Bartor Pharmacuetical pellets. The ironic

thing is that I pay less for the Sottopelle pellets outright then I do

on my copay on the Bartor Pharmacuetical pellets.

[Guest guest]

I have been using pellets for the past year and a half, and I must say

that I like not having to worry about applying gels or creams. The

implant proceedure is really not that bad, and I have only had one

pellet come out.

Since going on pellets, I have not been getting anywhere near the E2

as a result of aromitisatin.

Same for me...keeps the E2 below 100 and therefore no shrinkage of the genitals.

I have been on pellets for 2 years and rather these than any injections, creams

etc.

 

Mike

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

From 1991, I was receiving my pellets from Dr. Sipi of N. Bergen, NJ

His death stopped that source. While receiving TRT and talking at

length with Dr. Sipi, I received much of the information about the

evolution of TRT since the 50's.

Bardani of Bartor Pharmacal, Rye NY, was one of his few friends

and was named in his will as the executor of his estate. They had

known each other for decades as and a relative of his were the

supplier of the pellets for the pioneering work by Dr. Greenblatt from

the 50's.

As both Betty and myself both received HRT we needed a replacement

endocrinologist which would provide pellet therapy. We called many

cities and could not find anyone in the NE US. We did talk one OB/GYN

in Rochester to give Betty pellets but he was timid when it came to an

adequate dosage. One other women had previously asked him for T

pellets and Betty was his first patient to receive both T and E.

I called Bardani and he was nice enough over 10 years ago to

give me a list of doctors who ordered hormone pellets. It turned out

95% would not treat men but there was no information that allowed me

to know that in advance.

As our son lived in Raleigh, NC we finally elected to drive 10 hours

down from NY to spend a weekend with our son and travel down from

Raleigh on a Friday or Monday to Augusta, GA. It is nearly 400 miles

one way.

We now live in Durham, NC and still make the trip down and back in one

day.

In the 60's Hollywood types including Bob Hope would fly in to Augusta

every 4 months for pellets until CA finally got some pellet doctors.

I have been active here trying to get more patients excited about

pellet therapy hoping this can not be ignored by doctors. The internet

still does not provide easy access to qualified endocrinologists that

provide pellet therapy.

Keep it up Phil and maybe things can change for the better.

For your information, at 76 I had to go back to work because of

Betty's medical insurance cost. I now work 25 - 30 hours/week for

Lowe's in the TOOL WORLD in NW Cary, NC, going up and down ladders all

day. I'm the oldest guy in the store at 76.

ernestnolan

>

> > From: sbryant511 <sbryant511@...>

> > Subject: Re: Need Pellet information

> >

> > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:42 PM

> > I have been using pellets for the past year and a half, and

> > I must say

> > that I like not having to worry about applying gels or

> > creams. The

> > implant proceedure is really not that bad, and I have only

> > had one

> > pellet come out.

> >

> > Since going on pellets, I have not been getting anywhere

> > near the E2

> > as a result of aromitisatin.

> >

> > My doctor gets his pellets from the following provider.

> >

> > http://www.sottopellelife.com/

> >

> > However, my insurance plan views these pellets as

> > experimental

> > medication as they are from a compounding pharmacy.

> > However, my plan

> > will pay a portion of the Bartor Pharmacuetical pellets.

> > The ironic

> > thing is that I pay less for the Sottopelle pellets

> > outright then I do

> > on my copay on the Bartor Pharmacuetical pellets.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Phil

I had 1600 mg of testosterone put in my left buttock area. They were

200 mg sotopelle pellets. I weigh right around 200 lbs. My doctor

extrapolates from my previous batches of pellets to determine how many

pellets that I will need to hit 800ish levels.

From what I can tell the real tecnically difficult part of using

pellet based TRT is how well they are inserted.

I dont have stitches afteward, but the area does swell up and after it

heals over you can feel the pellets beneath the skin.