Re: New York State lab restrictions:

[Guest guest]

The 1st part of the question shouldn't be an issue. You can get a perscription

for the your lab tests from one of the on-line companies, referring you to a

local lab to have your blood drawn.

 

I guess the 2nd part of your question, how to get a copy of the lab results,

might not have a solution. I would tell you to leave NY, but with Obama care

coming, that might only be a temporary solution.

 

This is no longer the United States of America that my father and uncles fought

for in WW II.

 

 

________________________________

From: wilfredtr <no_reply >

Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 12:52:07 PM

Subject: New York State lab restrictions:

 

For those of us that are New York State Residents:

New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected in or

mailed from New York, and prohibits the transmission of data from our laboratory

to NY physicians or residents. Therefore, direct receipt of lab results for NY

residents is not possible.

Any ideas on how to " deal " with this?

[Guest guest]

It seems pointless to allow blood test services in NY, NJ, and RI (as limited as

they might be) and not permit transmission of results.

I contacted PrivateMdlabs.com, who refuse to provide blood testing services

(even to the extent of refusing to send blood draw kits) to New York, Rhode

Island, and New Jersey residents in light of the draconian restrictions.

Lef.org, working through the same lab network as PrivateMdlabs (LabCorp), does

provide blood test kits and allows for transmission of lab results. They manage

to get around the restriction about results somehow. Or as B Pender said, you

could travel to a nearby state for the tests. What a hassle.

These restrictions discourage patients from taking a more active role in their

own health and treatment. This trend of increased dependence favors corrective

care, not prevention, and is far more costly upon the health care system.

Despite whatever " good intentions " may have spawned these regulations, they are

not in the best interest of Americans. Our group should oppose legislation like

this.

~Xian

>

> The 1st part of the question shouldn't be an issue. You can get a perscription

for the your lab tests from one of the on-line companies, referring you to a

local lab to have your blood drawn.

>  

> I guess the 2nd part of your question, how to get a copy of the lab results,

might not have a solution. I would tell you to leave NY, but with Obama care

coming, that might only be a temporary solution.

>  

> This is no longer the United States of America that my father and uncles

fought for in WW II.

>  

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: wilfredtr <no_reply >

>

> Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 12:52:07 PM

> Subject: New York State lab restrictions:

>

>  

> For those of us that are New York State Residents:

>

> New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected in or

mailed from New York, and prohibits the transmission of data from our laboratory

to NY physicians or residents. Therefore, direct receipt of lab results for NY

residents is not possible.

>

> Any ideas on how to " deal " with this?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> For those of us that are New York State Residents:

>

> New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected in or

mailed from New York, and prohibits the transmission of data from our laboratory

to NY physicians or residents. Therefore, direct receipt of lab results for NY

residents is not possible.

>

> Any ideas on how to " deal " with this?

>

That statement is not correct, unless I misunderstand what it says. Did a local

lab or you send the samples? If it was a local lab where the blood was drawn

then that statement is wrong. If you personally sent urine samples then that

statement is correct. The law does not allow a patient to get lab work done and

sent directly to him without a doctor ordering the lab work. It does not prevent

a lab from outside NY to analyze the blood drawn in NY on a doctor's orders.

For instance, I have had blood drawn at my local health clinic here in NY. Some

of the analysis was done at the local hospital lab and others were sent to and

analyzed by Quest labs in PA, VA and CA. When the results were sent back to the

hospital lab, they sent out all results to both me and my doctor. This is

allowed if the NY doctor specifies it, but most want to tell you personally in

case there is a problem.

[Guest guest]

Won't be surprised if the NY NJ RI labs lobbyed for these restrictions. And

they'ed be afraid of the Attorney Generals of each state should someone rat them

out.

I do have an idea. If you could get tested locally..and get a code number..then

YOU could log onto their servers website and view the results.

Or open a lab in another country and do the same thing. There's no Federal Law

that I know of. (sorta validates the existence of a state law)

In , " d00fu524 " <.> wrote:

>

> It seems pointless to allow blood test services in NY, NJ, and RI (as limited

as they might be) and not permit transmission of results.

>

> I contacted PrivateMdlabs.com, who refuse to provide blood testing services

(even to the extent of refusing to send blood draw kits) to New York, Rhode

Island, and New Jersey residents in light of the draconian restrictions.

Lef.org, working through the same lab network as PrivateMdlabs (LabCorp), does

provide blood test kits and allows for transmission of lab results. They manage

to get around the restriction about results somehow. Or as B Pender said, you

could travel to a nearby state for the tests. What a hassle.

>

> These restrictions discourage patients from taking a more active role in their

own health and treatment. This trend of increased dependence favors corrective

care, not prevention, and is far more costly upon the health care system.

Despite whatever " good intentions " may have spawned these regulations, they are

not in the best interest of Americans. Our group should oppose legislation like

this.

>

> ~Xian

>

>

> >

> > The 1st part of the question shouldn't be an issue. You can get a

perscription for the your lab tests from one of the on-line companies, referring

you to a local lab to have your blood drawn.

> >  

> > I guess the 2nd part of your question, how to get a copy of the lab results,

might not have a solution. I would tell you to leave NY, but with Obama care

coming, that might only be a temporary solution.

> >  

> > This is no longer the United States of America that my father and uncles

fought for in WW II.

> >  

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: wilfredtr <>

> > To:

> > Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 12:52:07 PM

> > Subject: New York State lab restrictions:

> >

> >  

> > For those of us that are New York State Residents:

> >

> > New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected in or

mailed from New York, and prohibits the transmission of data from our laboratory

to NY physicians or residents. Therefore, direct receipt of lab results for NY

residents is not possible.

> >

> > Any ideas on how to " deal " with this?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

rverbill wrote:

>

>> For those of us that are New York State Residents:

>>

>> New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected in or

mailed from New York, and prohibits the transmission of data from our laboratory

to NY physicians or residents. Therefore, direct receipt of lab results for NY

residents is not possible.

>>

>> Any ideas on how to " deal " with this?

>>

> That statement is not correct, unless I misunderstand what it says. Did a

local lab or you send the samples? If it was a local lab where the blood was

drawn then that statement is wrong. If you personally sent urine samples then

that statement is correct. The law does not allow a patient to get lab work done

and sent directly to him without a doctor ordering the lab work. It does not

prevent a lab from outside NY to analyze the blood drawn in NY on a doctor's

orders.

>

> For instance, I have had blood drawn at my local health clinic here in NY.

Some of the analysis was done at the local hospital lab and others were sent to

and analyzed by Quest labs in PA, VA and CA. When the results were sent back to

the hospital lab, they sent out all results to both me and my doctor. This is

allowed if the NY doctor specifies it, but most want to tell you personally in

case there is a problem.

Life Extension Foundation (lef.org) ordered blood work is ordered by a

doctor at LEF on staff. Doctors can provide you copies of your lab

work; in fact, they are required by law to do so. Results sent from LEF

are effectively being sent by the doctor on staff. Looking at the last

LEF blood work I received it has a Physician's name and Physician's ID

number on the printouts. When blood work is ordered from LEF, you are

given several labs local to you to choose from so the blood draw, urine

samples, etc., are don't at a local in-state facility.

So, ordering from LEF works in New York State as far as I know and this

is true of all blood work you order online. That being said, saliva

tests and some blood " spot " tests done at home will not work. Some

state labs do saliva tests but I haven't looked into that since I don't

have the problem in my state; I can mail lab work out of state and get

the results mailed, faxed, and emailed to me.

In Nevada, one could show up 2-3 days after having blood work with ID in

hand and they would print you off a copy of your results right then and

there. That gave me a chance to review any results from blood work the

doctor had ordered so I could be prepared for the visit. Where I live

now however, they refuse to release blood work to patients without

specific requests from the doctor. However, I learned about a

prescription notation that should allow the labs to release lab work to

me. Have the doctor include the phrase " provide copy of results to

patient " or " fax copy of results to patient " on the blood work order. I

haven't tried that yet since learning about others doing this.

--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

" The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you

run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher

" Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism "

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

[Guest guest]

The wording isn't completely clear but I found quite a few websites with this

specific restriction. It seems to be targeted when the patient orders the test

in NY State, does the drawing him/herself and the lab work is done outside of NY

State...regardless of who gets it. The disclaimer is usually at the bottom of

the page, or just as you're about to order:

http://www.bloodtestathome.com/

http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/myallergytest.html

http://womenshealth.com/health-library/57-pharmacy/832-new-york-and-california-s\

tate-restrictions-disclaimer

http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?hid=415

> >> For those of us that are New York State Residents:

> >>

> >> New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected in

or mailed from New York, and prohibits the transmission of data from our

laboratory to NY physicians or residents. Therefore, direct receipt of lab

results for NY residents is not possible.

> >>

> >> Any ideas on how to " deal " with this?

> >>

> > That statement is not correct, unless I misunderstand what it says. Did a

local lab or you send the samples? If it was a local lab where the blood was

drawn then that statement is wrong. If you personally sent urine samples then

that statement is correct. The law does not allow a patient to get lab work done

and sent directly to him without a doctor ordering the lab work. It does not

prevent a lab from outside NY to analyze the blood drawn in NY on a doctor's

orders.

> >

> > For instance, I have had blood drawn at my local health clinic here in NY.

Some of the analysis was done at the local hospital lab and others were sent to

and analyzed by Quest labs in PA, VA and CA. When the results were sent back to

the hospital lab, they sent out all results to both me and my doctor. This is

allowed if the NY doctor specifies it, but most want to tell you personally in

case there is a problem.

>

> Life Extension Foundation (lef.org) ordered blood work is ordered by a

> doctor at LEF on staff. Doctors can provide you copies of your lab

> work; in fact, they are required by law to do so. Results sent from LEF

> are effectively being sent by the doctor on staff. Looking at the last

> LEF blood work I received it has a Physician's name and Physician's ID

> number on the printouts. When blood work is ordered from LEF, you are

> given several labs local to you to choose from so the blood draw, urine

> samples, etc., are don't at a local in-state facility.

>

> So, ordering from LEF works in New York State as far as I know and this

> is true of all blood work you order online. That being said, saliva

> tests and some blood " spot " tests done at home will not work. Some

> state labs do saliva tests but I haven't looked into that since I don't

> have the problem in my state; I can mail lab work out of state and get

> the results mailed, faxed, and emailed to me.

>

> In Nevada, one could show up 2-3 days after having blood work with ID in

> hand and they would print you off a copy of your results right then and

> there. That gave me a chance to review any results from blood work the

> doctor had ordered so I could be prepared for the visit. Where I live

> now however, they refuse to release blood work to patients without

> specific requests from the doctor. However, I learned about a

> prescription notation that should allow the labs to release lab work to

> me. Have the doctor include the phrase " provide copy of results to

> patient " or " fax copy of results to patient " on the blood work order. I

> haven't tried that yet since learning about others doing this.

>

> --

>

> Steve - dudescholar4@...

>

> " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you

> run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher

>

> " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism "

>

> Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at

> http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

>