Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 I started having the symptoms of low T almost 2 years ago, but it took me several months to figure out what it might be. My doctor agreed and tested my total T, which was at 304 ng/dl. He thought it should be at least 500, even at my age of 63 at the time and started me on 5 gm of Androgel. Unfortunately, he didn't test for anything else at the time, but that is over and done now. I did not absorb the Androgel well at all and my total T was at 277 after 6 months, 2 of those at a dose of 7.5 gm. I then read that Testim absorbed better than Androgel and he switched me to 10 gm of Testim. Four months later, my total T was at 644 and then 2 months after that it was at 862 (250-1100 for all tests at Quest) The problem is that my E2 slowly rose over time from 25.6 after 2 months on Androgel to 57.2 (<20-56) when my total T was at 862. My free T also rose to 179 (35-155) and my DHT rose to 132 (25-75). My depression was gone, but I still had some ED and lower libido than just a year or 2 earlier. I was also taking 25 mg of DHEA daily and thought that it was the reason for the high E2, as DHEA converts to E2 many times in men. I made the following changes: Stopped DHEA Lowered Testim from 10 gm to 7.5 gm Increased saw palmetto from 320 mg to 480 mg daily Started to take 1 Indolplex DIM daily Started to take small amount of supplemental soy isoflavones daily, as some articles and animal studies that I have read say that they take up the estrogen receptor sites and lower E2. So 2 months after starting this I had another set of blood tests. Here are the results and change from 2 months ago. Total T – 862 to 268 (250-1100) Free T – 179 to 50 (35-155) E2 – 57.2 to <20 (<20-56) DHT – 132 to 76 (25-75) DHEA-S – 232 to (don't have results yet) My ED has come back some. Some mornings I have good morning erections and others nothing. My dreams have also come to a halt. I believe that all tests were at the same labs, which is local hospital for E2 and Quest for all others. I will ask the doctor when I see him tomorrow. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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