Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I (female) had them implanted; they were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly..I think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss in my book..El. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Yep when I tried them it cost me a lot of money over $1500 by the time I got done and I never felt good. Today I know why not enough pellets I needed about 1500 mgs they only gave me 600. Here in MI. I can't find a good price with the amount of pellets I need. Every DR. here doing them are riping people off. I have family members on them male and female each one only gets enough to last 2 months. Co-Moderator Phil > From: dbktsar <dbkczar@...> > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > I (female) had them implanted; they > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly..I > think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss > in my book..El. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I do have a quetion, what is the hormons that does gronw up hair on the face( bear or mostach) just for my info. If there is something, what is the side effect? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: TRT --pellets > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > I (female) had them implanted; they > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly..I > think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss > in my book..El. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I don't think it's about a hormone some men don't need to shave there whole face look at the President he does not look like he has a full face of hair. I can say this when my Testosterone was low I only needed to shave 2x's a week now on TRT I need to shave everyday. Yet going on TRT men get a lot of body hair from the Testosterone and DHT. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: dbktsar <dbkczar@...> > > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > > I (female) had them implanted; they > > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been > too > > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay > 700$ > > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way > for > > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge > accordingly..I > > think they probably work for some folks, but it was a > miss > > in my book..El. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Where I can buy testesterone and DHT Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: TRT --pellets > > > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > > I (female) had them implanted; they > > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been > too > > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay > 700$ > > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way > for > > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge > accordingly..I > > think they probably work for some folks, but it was a > miss > > in my book..El. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 DHT is converted from Testosterone you need a Dr. do some tests and get a script for Testosterone if you need it. Here is a link to labs I tell men to get. Add to this Total T3 and T4 for thyroid. Do not take Testosterone meds until your find out why your low if your low. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=7059 Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: dbktsar <dbkczar@...> > > > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > > > > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > I (female) had them implanted; they > > > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have > been > > too > > > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to > pay > > 700$ > > > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a > good way > > for > > > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge > > accordingly..I > > > think they probably work for some folks, but it > was a > > miss > > > in my book..El. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I got the test, and my testosterone level is 337 and my Estradiol is 65, I am taking Arimidex now, and I feel good, I have sex last night and was good, now I am 45 years old, and I would like to have more hair in my face, chest and legs, what can I do? I do have with me the test, I do not if can attach to you email. just let me know. Thanks, ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:09:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: TRT --pellets DHT is converted from Testosterone you need a Dr. do some tests and get a script for Testosterone if you need it. Here is a link to labs I tell men to get. Add to this Total T3 and T4 for thyroid. Do not take Testosterone meds until your find out why your low if your low. http://forums. realthyroidhelp. com/viewtopic. php?f=5 & t= 7059 Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: dbktsar <dbkczargmail (DOT) com> > > > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > > > > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > I (female) had them implanted; they > > > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have > been > > too > > > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to > pay > > 700$ > > > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a > good way > > for > > > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge > > accordingly. .I > > > think they probably work for some folks, but it > was a > > miss > > > in my book..El. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Your Testosterone levels are low but your Estradiol is high getting this down your Testosterone levels can come back up some 200 to 300 points. If your not on TRT yet do this first then test again. http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/nov2008_Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Ag\ ing-Male_01.htm http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html Read the above links learn about this it is not fun to be on TRT for life and have to adjust meds for about a yr. to get adjusted when you don't need them. I hear you about the hair but I don't feel your going to get more hair on your face adding Testosterone. It will grow on your body I hate it and cut it down every month just did it this morning. Who wants hair on there back and chest over 3 " lg. and it keeps growing. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > From: dbktsar <dbkczargmail (DOT) com> > > > > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > > I (female) had them implanted; they > > > > were not nearly the right dose (but it could > have > > been > > > too > > > > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to > $$$ to > > pay > > > 700$ > > > > for pellets that did not work at all...it's > a > > good way > > > for > > > > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge > > > accordingly. .I > > > > think they probably work for some folks, but > it > > was a > > > miss > > > > in my book..El. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 My urologist has not treated my T problems in the past. I go an endocrinologist for that. I was a bit shocked when he mentioned the pellets but I am tired of getting up at 4:30 to do the gel everyday. I think the surgery thing probably has something to do with him asking. I am going to give it a try but my guess is we will not agree on the level. I like to keep it in the 600s or a bit higher and he was just too happy with the 435 that I tested at. The test was done late afternoon and my endo always said do it at 8 to 9 in the morning. ________________________________ From: dbktsar <dbkczar@...> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:40:56 PM Subject: Re: TRT --pellets  I (female) had them implanted; they were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly. .I think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss in my book..El. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 He told me 6 to 8. And I don't know a strength. ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:50:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: TRT --pellets  Yep when I tried them it cost me a lot of money over $1500 by the time I got done and I never felt good. Today I know why not enough pellets I needed about 1500 mgs they only gave me 600. Here in MI. I can't find a good price with the amount of pellets I need. Every DR. here doing them are riping people off. I have family members on them male and female each one only gets enough to last 2 months. Co-Moderator Phil > From: dbktsar <dbkczargmail (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > I (female) had them implanted; they > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly. .I > think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss > in my book..El. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I was just curious as to why you have to get up early to apply gel? ________________________________ From: Jim Kidwell <cav12th@...> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:30:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: TRT --pellets  My urologist has not treated my T problems in the past. I go an endocrinologist for that. I was a bit shocked when he mentioned the pellets but I am tired of getting up at 4:30 to do the gel everyday. I think the surgery thing probably has something to do with him asking. I am going to give it a try but my guess is we will not agree on the level. I like to keep it in the 600s or a bit higher and he was just too happy with the 435 that I tested at. The test was done late afternoon and my endo always said do it at 8 to 9 in the morning. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dbktsar <dbkczargmail (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:40:56 PM Subject: Re: TRT --pellets  I (female) had them implanted; they were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly. .I think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss in my book..El. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I get up 4:30 for work so that is when I would put it on. On the weekends I did it a much later time and was feeling off / down then. I called the manufacturer and talked with a pharmacist. She told me to do it at the same time every day. So 4:30 every day, weekends, vacation or whatever. If I go back to bed, I have to wait for it to dry and I put a t-shirt on so I don't turn my wife into my brother. ________________________________ From: Thornton <brianee93@...> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:47:06 PM Subject: Re: Re: TRT --pellets  I was just curious as to why you have to get up early to apply gel? ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Jim Kidwell <cav12th (DOT) com> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:30:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: TRT --pellets  My urologist has not treated my T problems in the past. I go an endocrinologist for that. I was a bit shocked when he mentioned the pellets but I am tired of getting up at 4:30 to do the gel everyday. I think the surgery thing probably has something to do with him asking. I am going to give it a try but my guess is we will not agree on the level. I like to keep it in the 600s or a bit higher and he was just too happy with the 435 that I tested at. The test was done late afternoon and my endo always said do it at 8 to 9 in the morning. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dbktsar <dbkczargmail (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:40:56 PM Subject: Re: TRT --pellets  I (female) had them implanted; they were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been too high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way for doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly. .I think they probably work for some folks, but it was a miss in my book..El. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just by your Endo saying he would be happy with a level that low tells me he is in up on low Testosterone. I have in all the 27 yrs that I have been treated for low T yet to find a good Endo they just are not any good. We have many posts by men here saying the same thing. If you do go with the pellets you need about 1500 mgs of Pellets. A lot of Dr.'s across the country don't put enough in and they know this because the labs that make the have info on there use. Then charge a lot of money do a small amount of pellets only to have you back in less the 2 months crashing. Hear is a link to a post by one of the members that has been on them for yrs. /message/49390 I would love to do pellets but can't find an honest Dr. that will not rip me off doing them. I have to family members getting them in my start on male and one female. Then Dr. that dose the male rips him off he knows it but is a retired City worker and his health care plain pays for it. This Dr. only gives him enough pellets to last 2 months and gives him Androgel to help keep his levels up. This is Bull Crap he told me to call this Dr. I did and it's $700 for the first office visit then he dose labs will not take your old ones. I checked with my BCBS his labs are not covered so $1500 in cost for his labs. Then I come back $150 for seeing him again to go over the the labs. Then to make an appointment to put in the Pellets at a cost of $1200 more. If you call the Labs that make pellets they are very low in cost there are just to many Dr.'s out there ripping people off on Pellets. To find a Dr. that will give me 20 75mg pellets at a good price in my state is a no go. I do fine giving my self shots and HCG and my drug care plain pays for it. Pellets are not covered. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Jim Kidwell <cav12th@...> > Subject: Re: Re: TRT --pellets > > Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 7:30 PM > My urologist has not treated my T > problems in the past. I go an endocrinologist for that. > I was a bit shocked when he mentioned the pellets but I am > tired of getting up at 4:30 to do the gel everyday. I > think the surgery thing probably has something to do with > him asking. I am going to give it a try but my guess is we > will not agree on the level. I like to keep it in the 600s > or a bit higher and he was just too happy with the 435 that > I tested at. The test was done late afternoon and my endo > always said do it at 8 to 9 in the morning. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: dbktsar <dbkczar@...> > > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:40:56 PM > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > >  > I (female) had them implanted; they were not nearly the > right dose (but it could have been too high a dose too)and > for me, it was way to $$$ to pay 700$ for pellets that did > not work at all...it's a good way for doc to do *surgery* > procedure and charge accordingly. .I think they probably > work for some folks, but it was a miss in my book..El. > > > > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 They come in 75 or 200 mgs if they are the 200mgs pellets then he is giving you enough. But I am betting it's the 75 mgs and one needs 20 of them if your weight is over 200 lbs. If your health care plain pays for this try it if you have to pay for this do some research about this. Send Ernestnolan an Email. ernestnolan@... Some of the guys at the MESO forum for men's health tried them. Here is a link to " Curious about pellet therapy? well heres my journal for it " This thread is long with a lot of reply's. http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/curious-about-pellet-therapy-13\ 4247952.html Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: dbktsar <dbkczargmail (DOT) com> > > Subject: Re: TRT --pellets > > > > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:40 PM > > I (female) had them implanted; they > > were not nearly the right dose (but it could have been > too > > high a dose too)and for me, it was way to $$$ to pay > 700$ > > for pellets that did not work at all...it's a good way > for > > doc to do *surgery* procedure and charge accordingly. > .I > > think they probably work for some folks, but it was a > miss > > in my book..El. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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