Re: IPT Success Patient

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much, Carol, I appreciate your input. This is all very

interesting.

What is the cost for IPT, and do you know if there is any info on the rates of

reoccurrance as there is with traditional chemo?

[Guest guest]

Carol,

Thank you for writing about your experience. Can you tell us who the doctor was

that you were in treatment with? and what area of the country he/she is in?

I do know that it is not easy to find the right doctor and I think personal

recommendations are the best way to go.

Thank You

From: Prem Carol

Hi all,

I am new to this group. A friend told me you are all pondering IPT. There is

nothing better than hearing a direct report from a successful patient themself!

I am 3 years recovered from uterine cancer stage 4. IPT was what I chose after

surgery and in 9 treatments (2 months) I was cancer free.

Since then I have had the great honor of helping others come to understand IPT

and watched sooo many people I've stayed in contact with come to

remission....with little to no side effects.

I also know many of the IPT doctors! This May they have their yearly

conference in Hollywood, Florida and there will be a day when the public can go

and get informed about it.............

[Guest guest]

You are so welcome! The cost varies from doctor to doctor, so you would have to

check with them. I would say that there is stronger health in people getting IPT

and afterwards, because they have not had to bombard their systems (good cells

as well) with traditional chemo, thereby wearing out their immune systems. Also,

there are so many ways of bolstering up the immune system by the IPT doctors.

Staying on track with good diet and supplementation, testing regularly to stay

on top of things, having a good attitude...there are so many factors involved!

But many times the alleged " success " rate with traditional chemo ends up killing

the cancer...but the patient has a hard time surviving because of the heavy toll

on the immune system. This does not happen with IPT.

Hope this is helpful.

In health,

Carol

Thank you very much, Carol, I appreciate your input. This is all very

interesting.

What is the cost for IPT, and do you know if there is any info on the rates of

reoccurrance as there is with traditional chemo?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for asking. My doctor was Dr. Les Breitman in Oceanside, which is just

north of San Diego, CA. He is one of the best. I also have some experience and

personal connection with Dr. Rick Linchitz in NY. He is also top of the line.

True IPT doctors are Wonderful and will answer all your questions ad infinitum!

That is how you will know they are the real thing.

Dr. Breitman will go the extra mile and speak to anyone even off hours and give

some initial feedback for free even before coming in to his clinic.

He will always refer people to qualified doctors closer to their areas of the

country/world ...whatever is easier for the patient.

I have never met such wonderful doctors! And he has an associate Dr.Winkler

working with him with an amazing support on diet and nutrition, among other

things.

Again, checking the website is one place to know if the doctor is really

qualified. Talking directly with patients who have had personal experience, like

myself is a great help.

Not everyone is so passionate about healing as I am, so not so many people speak

out. Again, checking the patient/survivor site could be interesting.

I have also done some writing about my journey back to wellness and hope to

complete my own book about that at some point!!

Hope this has been helpful.

In health,

Carol

Carol,

Thank you for writing about your experience. Can you tell us who the doctor was

that you were in treatment with? and what area of the country he/she is in?

I do know that it is not easy to find the right doctor and I think personal

recommendations are the best way to go. Thank You

[Guest guest]

Carol,

Thanks for sharing your information. I feel it is very important for people to

name names whether with good or bad feedback. People fighting cancer in a non

traditional manner need all the help they can get and having other people's

experiences to rely on is of great help. I think it is important for all of us

to share feedback about doctors we come in contact with. Another doctor I would

like to mention and recommend is Dr. Abraham Chachoua of NYU in NY. Dr.

Chachoua is a traditional Oncologist practicing traditional Oncology. BUT he is

totally open minded and will not tell you that you are going to die if you do

not do chemo. He will support you in any treatment decisions that you want to

make on your own. His motto is truly " first do no harm " and he is knowledgeable

about most alternative treatments despite the fact that he does not practice

them. He will give you an honest appraisal without being judgmental. I think

this is very important and many times I like to run things by him before making

a final decision.

Best of luck to all

Nili

[Guest guest]

> detwa_3017 <epurdles@...> wrote:

> What is the cost for IPT

Cost is moderate; “insurance DOES NOT cover it typically.â€

>any info on the rates of reccurrence

I don't think such data's available. You could ask an experienced IPT doctor. I

imagine the rate's about medium.

IPT works best w/BC, PC, lung [sCLC & NSCLC], colon, stomach cancer, lymphoma

[including NHL], and melanoma. Also very effective w/myeloma. Also somewhat

effective w/liver and ovarian cancer. It usually doesn’t initially shrink

tumors as quickly as conventional chemo. “not that great for liver or brain

[cancer]â€; not that effective w/colon cancer; works best if there are no

metastases

" randomized clinical trial...30 women with metastatic breast cancer resistant to

[chemo] and...hormone therapy....the methotrexate-treated group and the

insulin-treated group responded most frequently with progressive disease. The

group treated with insulin + methotrexate responded most frequently with stable

disease. The median increase in tumor size was significantly lower with insulin

+ methotrexate....results confirmed...in vitro studies showing...that insulin

potentiates methotrexate " Lasalvia-Prisco et al, 2004, Cancer Chemotherapy and

Pharmacology, 53(3), 220-224, www.springerlink.com/content/u5wrtgt65bfkmkq5,

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14655024

www.iptq.com/uruguay2003.htm (IPT-like Clinical Trial with breast cancer)

Leonard

[Guest guest]

IPT certainly sounds preferable to standard Chemotherapy but like the standard

which is initiated to kill cancer cells, will it kill all of them? Obviously

that is the problem with chemotherapy in that it doesn't kill all of them and

causes destruction to good cells. We also all look for tumor shrinkage, the

term used for that? Tumor Response. Oncologists are quick to use 'Response' as

a measure of their success. Yet, we have learned, that in itself is not

always a measure for survival.

It seems we have come to the conclusion that IPT is another tool and that

seems to say we had better be doing other things as well. In past posts we

have picked up that it is arrogance on the part of the Allopathic system to

think that they can kill every cancer cell roaming throughout one's body. Even

Alternative supporters can't claim that so we try to reduce the burden on the

body by using numerous methods so that it can heal and recover while remaining

in 'Sustained Remission' and if that is called 'cure' by some, great. I don't

care what anyone calls it. Apparently there sometimes is a stage whereby

'heroic' means might be required to halt progression in order to give the boy

time to start the right process. We have the problem of ourselves not knowing

when that is and that is when we need someone to rely on. Dr. Onco will tell

you that Chemotherapy is immediately needed. I can't rely on that advice

therefore I need someone I can trust to help me.

Joe C.

From: Leonard

Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:06 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IPT Success Patient

> detwa_3017 <epurdles@...> wrote:

> What is the cost for IPT

Cost is moderate; “insurance DOES NOT cover it typically.â€

>any info on the rates of reccurrence

I don't think such data's available. You could ask an experienced IPT doctor. I

imagine the rate's about medium.

IPT works best w/BC, PC, lung [sCLC & NSCLC], colon, stomach cancer, lymphoma

[including NHL], and melanoma. Also very effective w/myeloma. Also somewhat

effective w/liver and ovarian cancer. It usually doesn’t initially shrink

tumors as quickly as conventional chemo. “not that great for liver or brain

[cancer]â€; not that effective w/colon cancer; works best if there are no

metastases

" randomized clinical trial...30 women with metastatic breast cancer resistant to

[chemo] and...hormone therapy....the methotrexate-treated group and the

insulin-treated group responded most frequently with progressive disease. The

group treated with insulin + methotrexate responded most frequently with stable

disease. The median increase in tumor size was significantly lower with insulin

+ methotrexate....results confirmed...in vitro studies showing...that insulin

potentiates methotrexate " Lasalvia-Prisco et al, 2004, Cancer Chemotherapy and

Pharmacology, 53(3), 220-224, www.springerlink.com/content/u5wrtgt65bfkmkq5,

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14655024

www.iptq.com/uruguay2003.htm (IPT-like Clinical Trial with breast cancer)

Leonard

[Guest guest]

I spoke to Dr Breitman, extensively, when I was first dx w/my breast cancer

mets, 3 years ago. I did not choose the IPT route, but he was a very kind and

caring man. He IS, however, an IPT doc and pushes it quite forcefully. For

example, he told me that was no way to survive peritoneal mets without chemo.

Three years later, that has not been the case for me. But, he was very sweet

and I would've felt comfortable seeing him, had I felt good about IPT. One

other thing ... we lived in ID at the time and I would've paid $10k every 3

weeks for his tx. That's a bit more than moderately priced for me.

xoo