3 cm gallstone please help

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Well we have something in common. In Jan They foud I have a 2.8 cm single

stone.

Male, 44, 100 lbs overweight

1) Mine never bothered me for years either , some people go to there grave

with lots of stones and no attacks. Stones discovered in autopsy. Takes years

to form stone that size.

2) Fatty foods trigger it. Easy to find list of trigger foods on the web.

3) Bad news the surgeon I saw said Lapiscropic would not work for huge stone.

So you are talking 6 week recover time off work. I declined operation. They

gave me perceset for the pain, and I am working on alternative herbal

methods. Modern Medicine's dissolving medicine Actagall, is toxix to liver and

haas

bad side effects. I declined that also.

4) There is a medication for post op dirreah. I forget its name, it is

basically bile salts.

5) Alternative methods for calcified stones:

<A

HREF= " http://www.herballegacy.com/id85.htm " >http://www.herballegacy.com/id85.htm\

</A> & Chanca Piedra from Raintree

You might want to check out my previous post earlier this evening on the

Chinese herbal site in China.

Also: <A

HREF= " http://www.sensiblehealth.com " >http://www.sensiblehealth.com</A>

Chang, give her a call.

Lastly I know a lot more, but cant type it all. Email me. Arrang to call me,

I have 4 or 5 other things that can help. I have not had an attack since

December using these methods.

They may work for you. I urge you to take advantage of my research to see if

it will help.

Mike Rodriquez

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live in Buffalo. Anyone know where I might find an alternative

practitioner? I don't mind traveling.

Hello,

Dr. Mercola is one who is a D.O., plus he's into natural methods of

treatment. You might consider contacting him. If he can't help you, I'm sure

he knows

doctors who can. I think he's in Chicago, but I could be wrong.

Susie

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he only two practitioners i know of that are aware of the flushes are saul

pressman in vancouver and andreas moritz. hulda clark of course is familiar

with them

Let me state that Dr. Mercola knows about the cleanses too and he's all for

them. If you don't have his website address, here it is: <A

HREF= " http://www.mercola.com/1999/archive/gallstone_treatment.htm " >

http://www.mercola.com/1999/archive/gallstone_treatment.htm</A>

He used to have a specific recipe listed and he may still have it somewhere,

but you'll have to do searches for it. He does, however, advocate the cleanse

if your GB is not too far gone.

[Guest guest]

I posted this some time ago, but didnt get much advise. Can anyone

share some experiences here? I'd really like to keep my gallbladder

if possible.

> Forgive me if I'm posting a question that's already been addressed

> in the group. I just found out that I have a single 3 centimeter

> gallstone. For about 6 weeks, fron the beginning of Feb to the

> middle of March, I suffered debilitating attacks lasting several

> hours. My doctor treated me for acid reflux disease, but I knew

> that wasn't right, and got myself a sonogram. - and a new doctor,

> but my appointment isn't for another month. I'm 46,male, in good

> health and 40 lbs overweight. The questions I have are :

>

> 1. If this stone is 3 cm, it must have been around for a while.

> Why has it never bothered me before?

>

> 2. What specifically causes an attack ? I don't mean greasy food,

> etc. What is happening inside to a: trigger it, b: make it

> last so goddam long

>

> 3. How could anything that large be removed lapriscopically?

>

> 4. What about this post-operative chronic diarreah thing I keep

> reading about? I've read stats ranging from 5-20 %. This is

> something I absolutely want to avoid

>

> 5. My doctor couldn.t say whether it is a pigment or a cholesteral

> stone. I have never had high cholesterol - and alternative methods

> I've been reading about for getting rid of them non-surgically

> appear to make a distinction between the two types.

>

> Thank you for any responses you would be willing to give

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I had my first attack and then the others just kept coming, Im not sure what

causes it, they say it was cause I was pregnant, after awhile I would even

have attack when I was eating NO fat and no grease. So it isnt always fat

the does it. They dont just remove the stone with laproscopy they remove the

whole gallbladder. I dont have chronic diarream but I do have IBS from the

removal of the gb, and I think just about everyone that has gotten their gb

removed has that. ( This is something docs dont tell you). I think what

causes an attack is your gb shoots out the bile and a stone goes with it,

the stone gets stuck and you get severe pain, then what I beleive is that

the bile backs up behind it and eventually the pressure pushes the stone

out. Once the stone is out it is immediate releif, unless you have developed

pancreatitis or something.

>From: " jerry " <jerryd22@...>

>Reply-gallstones

>gallstones

>Subject: 3 cm gallstone please help

>Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 23:12:50 -0000

>

>I posted this some time ago, but didnt get much advise. Can anyone

>share some experiences here? I'd really like to keep my gallbladder

>if possible.

>

>

> > Forgive me if I'm posting a question that's already been addressed

> > in the group. I just found out that I have a single 3 centimeter

> > gallstone. For about 6 weeks, fron the beginning of Feb to the

> > middle of March, I suffered debilitating attacks lasting several

> > hours. My doctor treated me for acid reflux disease, but I knew

> > that wasn't right, and got myself a sonogram. - and a new doctor,

> > but my appointment isn't for another month. I'm 46,male, in good

> > health and 40 lbs overweight. The questions I have are :

> >

> > 1. If this stone is 3 cm, it must have been around for a while.

> > Why has it never bothered me before?

> >

> > 2. What specifically causes an attack ? I don't mean greasy food,

> > etc. What is happening inside to a: trigger it, b: make it

> > last so goddam long

> >

> > 3. How could anything that large be removed lapriscopically?

> >

> > 4. What about this post-operative chronic diarreah thing I keep

> > reading about? I've read stats ranging from 5-20 %. This is

> > something I absolutely want to avoid

> >

> > 5. My doctor couldn.t say whether it is a pigment or a cholesteral

> > stone. I have never had high cholesterol - and alternative methods

> > I've been reading about for getting rid of them non-surgically

> > appear to make a distinction between the two types.

> >

> > Thank you for any responses you would be willing to give

>

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i've passed enormous stones without dissolving them. one was as big as an

egg and a few as big as golf balls.

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for the input. Aluckower, I'm curious as to how you

managed to pass your large stones. Did you use any particular

method, or a variety of them? Or is it possible to pass them

naturally? I've yet to find a doctor to advocate any method other

than snipping the gallbladder out, and frankly, I am more fearful of

the ramifications of not having a gb than I am of the attacks. I

live in Buffalo. Anyone know where I might find an alternative

practitioner? I don't mind traveling.

--- In gallstones , " aluckower " <aluckower@n...>

wrote:

> i've passed enormous stones without dissolving them. one was as

big as an

> egg and a few as big as golf balls.

[Guest guest]

the only two practitioners i know of that are aware of the flushes are saul

pressman in vancouver and andreas moritz. hulda clark of course is familiar

with them

in her book she says not to worry about large stones because the epsom salts

will dilate your biliary tubing and ducts sifficiently. so far i found this

to be true in over 300 flushes. things got stock, but eventually everything

has passed. i considered surgery many times, but i know that isnt a solution

so i've kept flushing.

frankly in the weeks previous to the monsters coming out i was miserable

because it wasnt passing. but eventually i persevered and it came out. i

think patience is a big part of this. i forged my own way by eating

intuitively. i desire high fat foods often, and i think this has the effect

of stimulating the liver which in turn helps to push the stones forward. i

can't advocate this for everyone because i'm making this up as i go along

but so far it's working for me. i still have a lot more to get out so i need

more patience. the other theories are to eat a cleansing diet like sandra

cabots, but this didnt work for me. chanca pieadra is supposed to break up

stones, but i dont think that it worked for me in breaking up the big ones.