Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

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Do you have serious GB problems? WHen I had my GB I ate a completely fat

free diet. Even on this diet I still had GB attacks, I dont know if it was

just to far gone or what, but I had GB attacks even with out eating the fat.

So for this I dont believe that fat is the only thing that causes this.

could you be pregnant? (Sorry, i dont know your age or if you are

male/female) Have you ever gone to a homeopath or acupunturist? If you go to

an accupunturist make sure they are good with chinese medicine and also GB

problems. I went to one and that was the only thing that helped, until the

money ran out!!

>From: farscape66@...

>Reply-gallstones

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>Subject: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 03:50:39 EDT

>

>History of one large gallstone 2.8 cm according to Jan Ultrasound. Been on

>chineese herbs from Chang since then. Recently developed Morning

>Nausea.

>

>____

>If gb is only used to digest fat, and I eat a totally fat free meal at end

>of

>day:

>___

>Then why do I wake up at 3-4 AM feeling nauseaous. I take phosfood liguid

>and try to sleep some more, sometimes this works sometimes I throw up my

>fat

>free yogurt bfast.

>

>What causes this morning sickness to occur. Dr's just say, take out gb and

>it will go away.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Then why do I wake up at 3-4 AM feeling nauseaous. I take phosfood liguid

> and try to sleep some more, sometimes this works sometimes I throw up my

fat

> free yogurt bfast.

>

> What causes this morning sickness to occur. Dr's just say, take out gb

and

> it will go away.

I am not sure this is the answer, but do know that when you

are lying in certain positions, your gallbladder is more able to

release stones, and may be doing that during the night. Also

know that there are certain hours during the night when the

liver/body is more inclined to cleanse/

There's another thought, if you tend toward low blood sugar,

you may be going low during the night....when my blood

sugar was out of control, I used to have trouble with nausea

at about 3 or so a.m., and had a hard time wanting to eat

breakfast.

Those are just a couple of thoughts.

L. Meydrech, CN

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I am type 2 diabetic on glucophage, I had to stop taking the chanca piedra 2

weeks ago because of low blood sugar during the night. I thought that would

solve my problem.

___

Can the gb drive blood sugar low during the night on its own? Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

I have had severe probs with low blood sugar since having my Gb removed. I

think it was actually from having pancreatitis so many times. Do you check

your blood sugar during the night when you are nautious?

>From: farscape66@...

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>Subject: Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:46:43 -0400

>

>I am type 2 diabetic on glucophage, I had to stop taking the chanca piedra

>2 weeks ago because of low blood sugar during the night. I thought that

>would solve my problem.

>___

>Can the gb drive blood sugar low during the night on its own? Any ideas?

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No I have not checked it at 3AM, but next time I will check blood sugar.

[Guest guest]

The last one I had with my gallbladder still in I was given morphine and that

only made the pain and the nausea worse. I threw up bile for hours and the

nurses wouldn't even bat and eye

at it. They just told me it was bile and walked away. I suffered for days

after that.

Oh, my! You poor girl. Morphine is totally incorrect to give for

gallstone/GB problems. They're supposed to use Demerol. Morphine does

something that

isn't right for this kind of problem. I'll have to look in my medical

dictionary to tell you. I've read up on it before, but that's why they give

Demerol

on this, or they're supposed to. Of course, if you're allergic, they'll have

to find something other than Demerol.

Susie

[Guest guest]

when a docter gives up hope on a cure ,the patient gets morphine.

Some doctors might do this, but not every doctor that I've gone to has done

this and certainly for gallstone problems. If the doctor knows what he's

doing, he won't give morphine at all.

From my Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary, which is also what the nursing

profession uses besides Stedman's. It states on pg. 768 under gallstone,

then under symptoms, quote: Morphine is thought to increase spasm of the

sphincter of Oddi and thus is not used for pain relief, unquote.

So what I'm saying is, what doctors don't know this? It should be standard

medicine. Not all doctors are bad, so you can't categorize all of them into

one big lump. To do so is narrow-minded. This is why when I've gone to the

ER, I've ALWAYS received the standard medical practice, which is Demerol.

I.e., morphine is a no-no. If your doctor doesn't realize this fact, maybe you

should seek another who knows something. You don't want the morphine to cause a

spasm of the sphincter of Oddi when you're already spasming from the GB

attack anway. That's just common sense. But to even say all medicine is stupid

is

in inself stupid. If your leg gets cut off by accident or by some freak

accident you get run over, you'd better hope that you can go to a reliable

medical

center to have yourself fixed.

Susie

[Guest guest]

didnt know that morphine was wrong for GB probs! They tried to give that

to me every time I was in the ER, Of course I always refused everything

becuae I was pregnant. You would think these people would know better!!

Thats Drs for you!!

Please read my previous post. Yes, morphine is really a no-no for gallstone

problems because it causes spasm. Demerol works better, but many people can

be allergic to anything. I'm sure that they have something else. If someone

is pregnant, I'm not sure what they give. Probably depends on how far along

you are.

Susie

[Guest guest]

I believe the nausea is caused by the liver trying to push the stones and or

sludge out, and is the bile that is being dumped into the stomach.

All my attacks seemed to be at least 7- 8 hours after I ate my last meal,

usually starting at around 3:00a.m. I would be very nauseous and break out into

a sweat. It never had to be a

fatty meal to bring them on. I still have some of these attacks with out my

gall bladder (just not so severe) so it is also caused by stones in the liver

out bile duct.

This was before I knew much about herbals so I would go to the dr and get a shot

of Demerol and gravol and then be on my way home. The pain always passed so I

believe the Demerol must

have helped in some way.

The last one I had with my gallbladder still in I was given morphine and that

only made the pain and the nausea worse. I threw up bile for hours and the

nurses wouldn't even bat and eye

at it. They just told me it was bile and walked away. I suffered for days

after that.

I had tried some cleansing before this last attack, but I didn't have the

knowledge about how and why the herbs and cleanses work. If I knew then what I

know now the gall bladder would

never have come out.

Glenda

" L. Meydrech " wrote:

> > Then why do I wake up at 3-4 AM feeling nauseaous. I take phosfood liguid

> > and try to sleep some more, sometimes this works sometimes I throw up my

> fat

> > free yogurt bfast.

> >

> > What causes this morning sickness to occur. Dr's just say, take out gb

> and

> > it will go away.

>

> I am not sure this is the answer, but do know that when you

> are lying in certain positions, your gallbladder is more able to

> release stones, and may be doing that during the night. Also

> know that there are certain hours during the night when the

> liver/body is more inclined to cleanse/

>

> There's another thought, if you tend toward low blood sugar,

> you may be going low during the night....when my blood

> sugar was out of control, I used to have trouble with nausea

> at about 3 or so a.m., and had a hard time wanting to eat

> breakfast.

>

> Those are just a couple of thoughts.

>

> L. Meydrech, CN

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I didnt know that morphine was wrong for GB probs! They tried to give that

to me every time I was in the ER, Of course I always refused everything

becuae I was pregnant. You would think these people would know better!!

Thats Drs for you!!

>

>The last one I had with my gallbladder still in I was given morphine and

>that

>only made the pain and the nausea worse. I threw up bile for hours and the

>nurses wouldn't even bat and eye

>at it. They just told me it was bile and walked away. I suffered for days

>after that.

>

>

>

>Oh, my! You poor girl. Morphine is totally incorrect to give for

>gallstone/GB problems. They're supposed to use Demerol. Morphine does

>something that

>isn't right for this kind of problem. I'll have to look in my medical

>dictionary to tell you. I've read up on it before, but that's why they

>give Demerol

>on this, or they're supposed to. Of course, if you're allergic, they'll

>have

>to find something other than Demerol.

>

>Susie

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that when I DON'T have fat I am more liable for attacks, because

our bodies need fat to digest.

The fat HAS to COLD PRESSED UNCOOKED oil

----- Original Message -----

From: L. Meydrech

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:36 AM

Subject: Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

> Then why do I wake up at 3-4 AM feeling nauseaous. I take phosfood liguid

> and try to sleep some more, sometimes this works sometimes I throw up my

fat

> free yogurt bfast.

>

> What causes this morning sickness to occur. Dr's just say, take out gb

and

> it will go away.

I am not sure this is the answer, but do know that when you

are lying in certain positions, your gallbladder is more able to

release stones, and may be doing that during the night. Also

know that there are certain hours during the night when the

liver/body is more inclined to cleanse/

There's another thought, if you tend toward low blood sugar,

you may be going low during the night....when my blood

sugar was out of control, I used to have trouble with nausea

at about 3 or so a.m., and had a hard time wanting to eat

breakfast.

Those are just a couple of thoughts.

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

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I have found that a diet consisting of PLENTY of COLD PRESSED oil and only fruit

and vegetables...yummmmy. solves all my nausea and digestive problems. Takes a

bit of time to work. Just be patient. There's a lot of junk in there to clean

out.

Also have plenty of COLD PRESSED juices (NO SUGAR PLEASE) and plenty of herbal

teas.

GOOD LUCK

----- Original Message -----

From: farscape66@...

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:46 AM

Subject: Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

I am type 2 diabetic on glucophage, I had to stop taking the chanca piedra 2

weeks ago because of low blood sugar during the night. I thought that would

solve my problem.

___

Can the gb drive blood sugar low during the night on its own? Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

Yep. This used to happen to me. It's gallstones blocking the bile duct from

the pancreas to the small intestine. The pancreas is needed to digest protein,

carbohydrate etc. Juice and Flush them away with a strict vegan and cold

pressed oil diet.

----- Original Message -----

From: K & G Murray

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

I believe the nausea is caused by the liver trying to push the stones and or

sludge out, and is the bile that is being dumped into the stomach.

All my attacks seemed to be at least 7- 8 hours after I ate my last meal,

usually starting at around 3:00a.m. I would be very nauseous and break out into

a sweat. It never had to be a

fatty meal to bring them on. I still have some of these attacks with out my

gall bladder (just not so severe) so it is also caused by stones in the liver

out bile duct.

This was before I knew much about herbals so I would go to the dr and get a

shot of Demerol and gravol and then be on my way home. The pain always passed

so I believe the Demerol must

have helped in some way.

The last one I had with my gallbladder still in I was given morphine and that

only made the pain and the nausea worse. I threw up bile for hours and the

nurses wouldn't even bat and eye

at it. They just told me it was bile and walked away. I suffered for days

after that.

I had tried some cleansing before this last attack, but I didn't have the

knowledge about how and why the herbs and cleanses work. If I knew then what I

know now the gall bladder would

never have come out.

Glenda

" L. Meydrech " wrote:

> > Then why do I wake up at 3-4 AM feeling nauseaous. I take phosfood liguid

> > and try to sleep some more, sometimes this works sometimes I throw up my

> fat

> > free yogurt bfast.

> >

> > What causes this morning sickness to occur. Dr's just say, take out gb

> and

> > it will go away.

>

> I am not sure this is the answer, but do know that when you

> are lying in certain positions, your gallbladder is more able to

> release stones, and may be doing that during the night. Also

> know that there are certain hours during the night when the

> liver/body is more inclined to cleanse/

>

> There's another thought, if you tend toward low blood sugar,

> you may be going low during the night....when my blood

> sugar was out of control, I used to have trouble with nausea

> at about 3 or so a.m., and had a hard time wanting to eat

> breakfast.

>

> Those are just a couple of thoughts.

>

> L. Meydrech, CN

> http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

> HerBulletin

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----- Original Message -----

From: Tishri7@...

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:03 AM

Subject: Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

The last one I had with my gallbladder still in I was given morphine and that

only made the pain and the nausea worse. I threw up bile for hours and the

nurses wouldn't even bat and eye

at it. They just told me it was bile and walked away. I suffered for days

after that.

Oh, my! You poor girl. Morphine is totally incorrect to give for

gallstone/GB problems. They're supposed to use Demerol. Morphine does

something that

isn't right for this kind of problem. I'll have to look in my medical

dictionary to tell you. I've read up on it before, but that's why they give

Demerol

on this, or they're supposed to. Of course, if you're allergic, they'll have

to find something other than Demerol.

Susie

[Guest guest]

It was a 'general' statement. These doctors SHOULD be reported.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tishri7@...

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: Nitetime Nausea - Why?

when a docter gives up hope on a cure ,the patient gets morphine.

Some doctors might do this, but not every doctor that I've gone to has done

this and certainly for gallstone problems. If the doctor knows what he's

doing, he won't give morphine at all.

>From my Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary, which is also what the nursing

profession uses besides Stedman's. It states on pg. 768 under gallstone,

then under symptoms, quote: Morphine is thought to increase spasm of the

sphincter of Oddi and thus is not used for pain relief, unquote.

So what I'm saying is, what doctors don't know this? It should be standard

medicine. Not all doctors are bad, so you can't categorize all of them into

one big lump. To do so is narrow-minded. This is why when I've gone to the

ER, I've ALWAYS received the standard medical practice, which is Demerol.

I.e., morphine is a no-no. If your doctor doesn't realize this fact, maybe

you

should seek another who knows something. You don't want the morphine to cause

a

spasm of the sphincter of Oddi when you're already spasming from the GB

attack anway. That's just common sense. But to even say all medicine is

stupid is

in inself stupid. If your leg gets cut off by accident or by some freak

accident you get run over, you'd better hope that you can go to a reliable

medical

center to have yourself fixed.

Susie