Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Xian - this is a very risky idea. I coordinate blood drives and have observed that certain individuals react severly to having blood taken to the point of passing out. If you decide to pursue this, please have someone there to assist you if you need it. Also the guidelines for phlebotomy states ~ 550 cc's every 56 days is the limit. Arkansas From: d00fu524 <calvin1564@...> Subject: Re: Self-Phlebotomy Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:48 AM Thank you for responding, Tom. Innovative approach you have in mind. Tell me how it works out when you start it. I've looked at some phleb supplies stores like https://www. pulmolab. com/laboratory/ lab_supp/ phlebotomy/ index.html, but apparently they don't have what you're looking for. You seek larger needles & larger collection bottles due to the larger volume of blood to drain to treat hemochromatosis, right? I do not need to self-phleb, but I have been exploring the field of phlebotomy for future employment. At this point, most training schools are filled with students & backlogged with a waiting list, so the soonest I could start would be April 2009. I have considered practicing on myself so I'd have a head start when I can gain admission to the class. While on the topic of blood & blood tests, did you get any price quotes for the Wallace Wizard diagnostic equipment? Curious... ~Xian ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- Xian, I have not attempted my own phlebotomy yet, but soon. Most hemotology centers use 16 gauge needles and regular IV bags. There is a problem to the extent that I require smaller needles of 18 gauge or less and a vaccuum bottle. There are two manufacturers of vaccuum bottles and the availability is often on national backorder. The bottles cost $30 wholesale for 500 cc's. I came up with an idea of modifying a bottle and then putting a vaccuum pump on it to be able to reuse the bottle. I was surfing eBay and found just that in the form of an aspirator unit. I have not tried it yet and may still have to modify one of the intakes to accept the plastics I use, but I should be able to get any level of vaccuum I want and be able to reuse over and over. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 The 56 days is based on a normal genome void of hemochromatosis. The 56 days can even more specifically be quantified due to hematocrit, hemoglobin and Fe levels. I was having 500cc taken weekly and gave well over 30 (pints, 500cc or 500ml) in on years, conservatively. 56 Days is the published red cross standard. However, there are exceptions. Also, I have received the aspirator unit I am going to use to eliminate buying vacuum bottles at $30 per wholesale. I will document my findings and report. Also for safety measures if you are alone. They have check valves that can be set by a timer. So time your phleb at X drip rate and then set the check/shut off valve at that time if you are alone and have no alternatives. Most people do not understand the reality of hemochromatosis until they have witnessed a CPPD attack that accompanies hemochromatosis. > > From: d00fu524 <calvin1564@...> > Subject: Re: Self-Phlebotomy > > Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:48 AM > > > > > > > Thank you for responding, Tom. > > Innovative approach you have in mind. Tell me how it works out when > you start it. > > I've looked at some phleb supplies stores like > https://www. pulmolab. com/laboratory/ lab_supp/ phlebotomy/ index.html, > but apparently they don't have what you're looking for. You seek > larger needles & larger collection bottles due to the larger volume of > blood to drain to treat hemochromatosis, right? > > I do not need to self-phleb, but I have been exploring the field of > phlebotomy for future employment. At this point, most training > schools are filled with students & backlogged with a waiting list, so > the soonest I could start would be April 2009. I have considered > practicing on myself so I'd have a head start when I can gain > admission to the class. > > While on the topic of blood & blood tests, did you get any price > quotes for the Wallace Wizard diagnostic equipment? Curious... > > ~Xian > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- > Xian, > > I have not attempted my own phlebotomy yet, but soon. Most hemotology > centers use 16 gauge needles and regular IV bags. There is a problem to > the extent that I require smaller needles of 18 gauge or less and a > vaccuum bottle. There are two manufacturers of vaccuum bottles and the > availability is often on national backorder. The bottles cost $30 > wholesale for 500 cc's. > > I came up with an idea of modifying a bottle and then putting a vaccuum > pump on it to be able to reuse the bottle. I was surfing eBay and found > just that in the form of an aspirator unit. I have not tried it yet and > may still have to modify one of the intakes to accept the plastics I > use, but I should be able to get any level of vaccuum I want and be able > to reuse over and over. > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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