Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 > oncologists don't want people to eat raw fruits > and veggies while on chemo has to do with bacteria that might be > on the fruits and veggies, or other toxins. The chemo is going to > destroy the body's ability to fight these little bugs I've never heard that and doubt it's valid. And if one takes appropriate supplements, one immune system should still be plenty strong enough to handle those microbes. > Antioxidents are not a good idea while on chemo because they may make the chemo less effective. " The data [from hundreds of articles reviewed by Moss] overwhelmingly supports using antioxidants before, during, and after [chemotherapy and radiation] " (Moss, 2000a, p. 102; see also Austin, 2003 [www.annieappleseedproject.org/amcolforadin1.html]; Birdsall, 2003a, b; Block, M.D., et al, 2007 [systematic LITERATURE REVIEW in Cancer Treatment Review], 2008 [LITERATURE REVIEW; Block found that all studies (except for one, whose results were statistically nonsignificant) found that antioxidants increased the effectiveness of chemo]; Boik, 2001; Borek, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277]; Cascinu et al., 1995; Chiang et al., 1994; Chinery et al., 1997; Conklin, 2000, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277]; D'Adamo, 1996, 2001; Dalzell, 2002; Diamond et al., 1997, 2000; Enig, 2005; Falcone & Sonberg, 1996; Francescott, 2005; Gadzala, 2001; Gignac, 2000; , 2000; Hawkins, 2002; Hoffer, 1994, Hoffer & ing, 1993a, b; Hofmann et al., 1990; Horner- cited in Bonfield, 2003; Hospers et al., 1999; Jimenez, 200?; Klein, 1999, 2000; Kurbacher et al., 1996; Leonetti et al., 2003; Locatelli et al., 1993; , 2003, Moss, 1992, 1999, 2000a,b, 2002, 2003; www.cancerdecisions.com/041803.html, www.cancerdecisions.com/070608.html; Pace et al., 2003; Page, 1998; Ripoll et al., 1986; Prasad, 1984, 2003, 2004; Prasad et al., 1994; 1999a, b; 2001; , 1999; Sherry , 2004; Rountree, 2000; Scambia et al., 1992, 1994; Schachter, 1998, 2001a,b; Schmitt-Graff & Scheulen, 1986; Seifter et al., 1984; Simone, 2000; Simone et al., 2000; Simone et al. [literature review of 50 human studies], Smyth et al., 1997; Sugiyama & Sadzuka, 1998; Jeanne Wallace cited in Asenjo, 2001; Weisman, 1998; Yance, 1999, 2003; www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/4-5/antioxidants_cancer_part1.pdf (Lamson & Brignall, 1999’s literature review) www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/5-2/antioxidanst_cancer_part2.pdf (Lamson & Brignall, 2000’s QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE based on literature review) www.cancerdecisions.com/mossreports/25PDF/001/report.pdf (review article) www.doctormurray.com/media/system/NEW_PDF/Natural%20Support%20During%20Chemother\ apy.pdf www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/20/suppl_5/450S http://w3.newsmax.com/newsletters/blaylock/issues/Nov09BWR/blaylock_Nov09BWR_65.\ pdf (p. 10; Blalock, M.D. www.annieappleseedproject.org/anincanthero.html www.annieappleseedproject.org/anadjtherush.html www.healthwell.com/healthnotes/Drug/Docetaxel.cfm www.blockmd.com/AntioxidantStudy.pdf; www.blockmd.com/ASCO.pdf). " Animal and human studies [show that] antioxidants [including vitamin C] protect the healthy tissue of the patient while allowing the cancer tissue to become more vulnerable to the damaging effects of chemotherapy and radiation " (Quillin, 2000, p. 2). " Prasad et al. [1999] after reviewing 71 scientific papers, found no evidence that antioxidants did interfere with the therapeutic effect of chemotherapy and, on the contrary, suggest the hypothesis that it would increase the efficacy....[oncologist] B. Simone et al. [2000] (...also examined 71 scientific papers) came to the same conclusion. " (Hoffer, 2002 [www.tldp.com; METAREVIEW]). “In general, I like antioxidants as part of cancer therapy. Their activity can be decidedly pro-oxidant.†( Gammill, ScD, 9/30/05) BUT it is still important to inform your oncologist of any supplements you are using. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I have a friend who was told the same thing - no raw fruits/veges while on chemo - same reasons mentioned. He was being treated for non-hodgkins lymphoma. val From: " Leonard " > oncologists don't want people to eat raw fruits > and veggies while on chemo has to do with bacteria that might be > on the fruits and veggies, or other toxins. The chemo is going to > destroy the body's ability to fight these little bugs I've never heard that and doubt it's valid. And if one takes appropriate supplements, one immune system should still be plenty strong enough to handle those microbes. > Antioxidents are not a good idea while on chemo because they may make the chemo less effective. " The data [from hundreds of articles reviewed by Moss] overwhelmingly supports using antioxidants before, during, and after [chemotherapy and radiation] " (Moss, 2000a, p. 102; see also Austin, 2003 [www.annieappleseedproject.org/amcolforadin1.html]; Birdsall, 2003a, b; Block, M.D., et al, 2007 [systematic LITERATURE REVIEW in Cancer Treatment Review], 2008 [LITERATURE REVIEW; Block found that all studies (except for one, whose results were statistically nonsignificant) found that antioxidants increased the effectiveness of chemo]; Boik, 2001; Borek, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277].....<snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 At 11:02 AM 4/19/2010, Leonard wrote: > >BUT it is still important to inform your oncologist of any >supplements you are using. Many oncologists don't want to know which supplements you are using. I had chemo and radiation while doing a number of supplements. My success verged on the fantastic. Each of my oncologists cut me off when I tried telling them what I was using so successfully. It is willful ignorance. A good overview of vitamin C and chemotherapy is a letter to the editor (with citations), Townsend Letter, Feb/Mar 2009. The bottom line: ascorbic acid (AA) largely works through extracellular mechanisms and consistently supports chemotherapy, but its oxidation product, dehydroascorbic acid (DHA), can well undermine chemotherapy. The letter does not say this, but DHA enters the cell through passive diffusion, but AA requires active transport. Vitamin K can help recycle DHA back to AA and a good source of vitamin K is green, leafy vegetables. Green leafy vegetables can be a source of salmonella typhimurium (wild type salmonella) which you definitely don't want UNLESS you have cancer. Vion Pharmaceuticals modifies salmonella in various money-making ways because salmonella is so efficient in seeking out and killing cancer cells. If you have cancer and want to treat it with salmonella, it is not necessary to pay Vion Pharmaceuticals nor to graze on lettuce and hope for the best. 90-95% of all reptiles such as you might find in a pet store are infected. It is natural for them. I think that if I were facing my own mortality I could glug down a lizard smoothie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 It is true they do not want you to eat them but not sure why. I had one woman who said her dr didn't want her to juice to get nutrition better as she was not digesting food well Cheri > > > oncologists don't want people to eat raw fruits > > and veggies while on chemo has to do with bacteria that might be > > on the fruits and veggies, or other toxins. The chemo is going to > > destroy the body's ability to fight these little bugs > > I've never heard that and doubt it's valid. > And if one takes appropriate supplements, one immune system should still be plenty strong enough to handle those microbes. > > > Antioxidents are not a good idea while on chemo because they may make > the chemo less effective. > > " The data [from hundreds of articles reviewed by Moss] overwhelmingly supports using antioxidants before, during, and after [chemotherapy and radiation] " (Moss, 2000a, p. 102; see also Austin, 2003 [www.annieappleseedproject.org/amcolforadin1.html]; Birdsall, 2003a, b; Block, M.D., et al, 2007 [systematic LITERATURE REVIEW in Cancer Treatment Review], 2008 [LITERATURE REVIEW; Block found that all studies (except for one, whose results were statistically nonsignificant) found that antioxidants increased the effectiveness of chemo]; Boik, 2001; Borek, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277]; Cascinu et al., 1995; Chiang et al., 1994; Chinery et al., 1997; Conklin, 2000, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277]; D'Adamo, 1996, 2001; Dalzell, 2002; Diamond et al., 1997, 2000; Enig, 2005; Falcone & Sonberg, 1996; Francescott, 2005; Gadzala, 2001; Gignac, 2000; , 2000; Hawkins, 2002; Hoffer, 1994, Hoffer & ing, 1993a, b; Hofmann et al., 1990; Horner- cited in Bonfield, 2003; Hospers et al., 1999; Jimenez, 200?; Klein, 1999, 2000; Kurbacher et al., 1996; Leonetti et al., 2003; Locatelli et al., 1993; , 2003, Moss, 1992, 1999, 2000a,b, 2002, 2003; www.cancerdecisions.com/041803.html, www.cancerdecisions.com/070608.html; Pace et al., 2003; Page, 1998; Ripoll et al., 1986; Prasad, 1984, 2003, 2004; Prasad et al., 1994; 1999a, b; 2001; , 1999; Sherry , 2004; Rountree, 2000; Scambia et al., 1992, 1994; Schachter, 1998, 2001a,b; Schmitt-Graff & Scheulen, 1986; Seifter et al., 1984; Simone, 2000; Simone et al., 2000; Simone et al. [literature review of 50 human studies], Smyth et al., 1997; Sugiyama & Sadzuka, 1998; Jeanne Wallace cited in Asenjo, 2001; Weisman, 1998; Yance, 1999, 2003; > www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/4-5/antioxidants_cancer_part1.pdf (Lamson & Brignall, 1999’s literature review) > www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/5-2/antioxidanst_cancer_part2.pdf (Lamson & Brignall, 2000’s QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE based on literature review) > www.cancerdecisions.com/mossreports/25PDF/001/report.pdf (review article) > www.doctormurray.com/media/system/NEW_PDF/Natural%20Support%20During%20Chemother\ apy.pdf > www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/20/suppl_5/450S > http://w3.newsmax.com/newsletters/blaylock/issues/Nov09BWR/blaylock_Nov09BWR_65.\ pdf (p. 10; Blalock, M.D. > www.annieappleseedproject.org/anincanthero.html > www.annieappleseedproject.org/anadjtherush.html > www.healthwell.com/healthnotes/Drug/Docetaxel.cfm > www.blockmd.com/AntioxidantStudy.pdf; www.blockmd.com/ASCO.pdf). > " Animal and human studies [show that] antioxidants [including vitamin C] protect the healthy tissue of the patient while allowing the cancer tissue to become more vulnerable to the damaging effects of chemotherapy and radiation " (Quillin, 2000, p. 2). > " Prasad et al. [1999] after reviewing 71 scientific papers, found no evidence that antioxidants did interfere with the therapeutic effect of chemotherapy and, on the contrary, suggest the hypothesis that it would increase the efficacy....[oncologist] B. Simone et al. [2000] (...also examined 71 scientific papers) came to the same conclusion. " (Hoffer, 2002 [www.tldp.com; METAREVIEW]). > “In general, I like antioxidants as part of cancer therapy. Their activity can be decidedly pro-oxidant.†( Gammill, ScD, 9/30/05) > BUT it is still important to inform your oncologist of any supplements you are using. > > Leonard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 If you have cancer and want to treat it with salmonella, it is not > necessary to pay Vion Pharmaceuticals nor to graze on lettuce and > hope for the best. 90-95% of all reptiles such as you might find in > a pet store are infected. It is natural for them. I think that if I > were facing my own mortality I could glug down a lizard smoothie. > > > How about just licking a turtle or something LOL. Sorry I could not resist. We had a couple of red eared sliders bullfrogs and I forget which kind of lizards long ago. Everyone was terrified about getting sick from them cause my kids were all under the age of 10. Never got sick from them and never used the stupid handwashing liquid we were supposed to use either. Cheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I am still confused surrounding diet and chemptherapy treatment as the advice does appear to be conflicting. For instance - I run a blog on mesothelioma cancer as I have a group of friends on facebook who have the disease. Both them and myself have explored the idea of consuming anti-cancer foods but their Doctors do not seem at all interested. Is this a common theme among the medical profession - not to be interested in nutrition as complimentary therapy? I would really appreciate your feedback on this subject. Ann. http://www.mesotheliomalungs.org " cheri601183 " <cheri607@...> wrote: > > It is true they do not want you to eat them but not sure why. I had one woman who said her dr didn't want her to juice to get nutrition better as she was not digesting food well > > Cheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 YES Sad but true everything I ask my moms onco about is contradicted. But half the time he has no idea about the very thing I am asking about. How can you say something is bad if you have no clue what it is? Cheri > > > > It is true they do not want you to eat them but not sure why. I had one woman who said her dr didn't want her to juice to get nutrition better as she was not digesting food well > > > > Cheri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Okay, I'm going to say this again. Below I'm telling you what oncologists have told my friends about why they shouldn't eat raw fruits and veggies while doing chemo. I don't really care if anyone agrees with it or not, because it wasn't stated as something to debate. And under no circumstances did I say that I agree with it - so please stop shooting the messenger. ar > > > oncologists don't want people to eat raw fruits > > and veggies while on chemo has to do with bacteria that might be > > on the fruits and veggies, or other toxins. The chemo is going to > > destroy the body's ability to fight these little bugs > > I've never heard that and doubt it's valid. > And if one takes appropriate supplements, one immune system should still be plenty strong enough to handle those microbes. > > > Antioxidents are not a good idea while on chemo because they may make > the chemo less effective. > > " The data [from hundreds of articles reviewed by Moss] overwhelmingly supports using antioxidants before, during, and after [chemotherapy and radiation] " (Moss, 2000a, p. 102; see also Austin, 2003 [www.annieappleseedproject.org/amcolforadin1.html]; Birdsall, 2003a, b; Block, M.D., et al, 2007 [systematic LITERATURE REVIEW in Cancer Treatment Review], 2008 [LITERATURE REVIEW; Block found that all studies (except for one, whose results were statistically nonsignificant) found that antioxidants increased the effectiveness of chemo]; Boik, 2001; Borek, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277]; Cascinu et al., 1995; Chiang et al., 1994; Chinery et al., 1997; Conklin, 2000, 2004 [www.ict.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/3/4/277]; D'Adamo, 1996, 2001; Dalzell, 2002; Diamond et al., 1997, 2000; Enig, 2005; Falcone & Sonberg, 1996; Francescott, 2005; Gadzala, 2001; Gignac, 2000; , 2000; Hawkins, 2002; Hoffer, 1994, Hoffer & ing, 1993a, b; Hofmann et al., 1990; Horner- cited in Bonfield, 2003; Hospers et al., 1999; Jimenez, 200?; Klein, 1999, 2000; Kurbacher et al., 1996; Leonetti et al., 2003; Locatelli et al., 1993; , 2003, Moss, 1992, 1999, 2000a,b, 2002, 2003; www.cancerdecisions.com/041803.html, www.cancerdecisions.com/070608.html; Pace et al., 2003; Page, 1998; Ripoll et al., 1986; Prasad, 1984, 2003, 2004; Prasad et al., 1994; 1999a, b; 2001; , 1999; Sherry , 2004; Rountree, 2000; Scambia et al., 1992, 1994; Schachter, 1998, 2001a,b; Schmitt-Graff & Scheulen, 1986; Seifter et al., 1984; Simone, 2000; Simone et al., 2000; Simone et al. [literature review of 50 human studies], Smyth et al., 1997; Sugiyama & Sadzuka, 1998; Jeanne Wallace cited in Asenjo, 2001; Weisman, 1998; Yance, 1999, 2003; > www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/4-5/antioxidants_cancer_part1.pdf (Lamson & Brignall, 1999’s literature review) > www.thorne.com/pdf/journal/5-2/antioxidanst_cancer_part2.pdf (Lamson & Brignall, 2000’s QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE based on literature review) > www.cancerdecisions.com/mossreports/25PDF/001/report.pdf (review article) > www.doctormurray.com/media/system/NEW_PDF/Natural%20Support%20During%20Chemother\ apy.pdf > www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/20/suppl_5/450S > http://w3.newsmax.com/newsletters/blaylock/issues/Nov09BWR/blaylock_Nov09BWR_65.\ pdf (p. 10; Blalock, M.D. > www.annieappleseedproject.org/anincanthero.html > www.annieappleseedproject.org/anadjtherush.html > www.healthwell.com/healthnotes/Drug/Docetaxel.cfm > www.blockmd.com/AntioxidantStudy.pdf; www.blockmd.com/ASCO.pdf). > " Animal and human studies [show that] antioxidants [including vitamin C] protect the healthy tissue of the patient while allowing the cancer tissue to become more vulnerable to the damaging effects of chemotherapy and radiation " (Quillin, 2000, p. 2). > " Prasad et al. [1999] after reviewing 71 scientific papers, found no evidence that antioxidants did interfere with the therapeutic effect of chemotherapy and, on the contrary, suggest the hypothesis that it would increase the efficacy....[oncologist] B. Simone et al. [2000] (...also examined 71 scientific papers) came to the same conclusion. " (Hoffer, 2002 [www.tldp.com; METAREVIEW]). > “In general, I like antioxidants as part of cancer therapy. Their activity can be decidedly pro-oxidant.†( Gammill, ScD, 9/30/05) > BUT it is still important to inform your oncologist of any supplements you are using. > > Leonard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Ann, That's correct. Oncologists are not nutritionists and many do not councel patients on diets. Their job is to treat the cancer in the way they were taught. ar > > > > It is true they do not want you to eat them but not sure why. I had one woman who said her dr didn't want her to juice to get nutrition better as she was not digesting food well > > > > Cheri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I don't think anyone 'shot' at 'the messenger, but it is one thing to make a statement and another to qualify it a few e-mails later. People that think contrary to statements should make a debate out of it. We cannot expect to give what might appear to be reasons or justification without expecting someone to question them. When someone questions what is written, because of the way it is written, all it takes is a follow-up qualifying statement clearing up whatever perception was had. We all write things that are taken incorrectly some because of the way things are written and others because some people make incorrect assumptions. A less informed person, like the one offering the original question could easily take the statements shown below as gospel when they are not. I'm sure we all try to be careful about misinterpreting what is written but it is just too easy to make mistakes. However, that last sentence below, for example, is easy to take just as it sounds: " The Chemo is going to destroy the body's ability to fight these little bugs " . It appears to justify their instructions to avoid " veggies while on Chemo " . It is good you finally said that you did not say you agreed with them but it was even better that others volunteered their opinions. Besides giving an opinion some offered sources for that opinion which sometimes helps. Come to think of it, the following statements all seem to attempt to justify not eating veggies when on chemo. It's good we had this discussion because if this was taken as good advice without research..............not good. Joe C. > > oncologists don't want people to eat raw fruits > > and veggies while on chemo has to do with bacteria that might be > > on the fruits and veggies, or other toxins. The chemo is going to > > destroy the body's ability to fight these little bugs > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 > > A good overview of vitamin C and chemotherapy is a letter to the > editor (with citations), Townsend Letter, Feb/Mar 2009. The bottom > line: ascorbic acid (AA) largely works through extracellular > mechanisms and consistently supports chemotherapy, but its oxidation > product, dehydroascorbic acid (DHA), can well undermine > chemotherapy. The letter does not say this, but DHA enters the cell > through passive diffusion, but AA requires active transport. Vitamin > K can help recycle DHA back to AA and a good source of vitamin K is > green, leafy vegetables. > > We've been using 125 g IVC over a 4 hour period (i.e., 50 g IVC for 60 min, then 25 g, 25 g, 25 g each hour after) with Paclitaxel in the 2nd hour. In the first hour we include 100 mg vitamin K1 and 5 mg (5000 ug) biotin to increase nitric oxide before chemo. In addition 600mg alpha lipoic acid for 3 hours starting 1 hour before chemo to prevent peripheral neuropathy. Vitamin K1 is found mainly in leafy green vegetables. I wonder if the K1 will recycle DHA back to AA? Maybe we should include K1 with the 25 g IVC in the following hours as well as the first. I know the synthetic vitamin K3 is supposed to be much more effective with vitamin C and chemotherapy, but I don't have any at the moment and there is some concern about toxicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Yum....Thanks for the great info From: VGammill Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 12:59:16 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: raw diet & chemotherapy ( & antioxidants) At 11:02 AM 4/19/2010, Leonard wrote: > >BUT it is still important to inform your oncologist of any >supplements you are using. Many oncologists don't want to know which supplements you are using. I had chemo and radiation while doing a number of supplements. My success verged on the fantastic. Each of my oncologists cut me off when I tried telling them what I was using so successfully. It is willful ignorance. A good overview of vitamin C and chemotherapy is a letter to the editor (with citations), Townsend Letter, Feb/Mar 2009. The bottom line: ascorbic acid (AA) largely works through extracellular mechanisms and consistently supports chemotherapy, but its oxidation product, dehydroascorbic acid (DHA), can well undermine chemotherapy. The letter does not say this, but DHA enters the cell through passive diffusion, but AA requires active transport. Vitamin K can help recycle DHA back to AA and a good source of vitamin K is green, leafy vegetables. Green leafy vegetables can be a source of salmonella typhimurium (wild type salmonella) which you definitely don't want UNLESS you have cancer. Vion Pharmaceuticals modifies salmonella in various money-making ways because salmonella is so efficient in seeking out and killing cancer cells. If you have cancer and want to treat it with salmonella, it is not necessary to pay Vion Pharmaceuticals nor to graze on lettuce and hope for the best. 90-95% of all reptiles such as you might find in a pet store are infected. It is natural for them. I think that if I were facing my own mortality I could glug down a lizard smoothie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 At 08:00 AM 4/20/2010, " algarve7 " wrote: > I know the synthetic vitamin K3 is supposed to be much more > effective with vitamin C and >chemotherapy, but I don't have any at the moment and there is some >concern about toxicity. Vit K3 is much more effective than K1. I have used thousands of ampules without the slightest problem. The risk is in using it in infants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Posted by: " VGammill " vgammill@... <<ascorbic acid (AA) largely works through extracellular mechanisms and consistently supports chemotherapy, but its oxidation product, dehydroascorbic acid (DHA), can well undermine chemotherapy>> Thanks for the great info. What I've read suggests that, overall, vit. C's quite beneficial to take during most chemo regimens (Quillin, 2000, p. 2), including Taxol. It reduces toxicity & enhances effects of Adriamycin ; protects against chromosomal damage done by cisplatin. Enhanced effects of levodopa methylester (LDME), dacarbazine, 5-FU, bleomycin, tamoxifen; " a mixture of vitamin C, beta-carotene and vitamin E showed even more benefit " (Moss, 2001, [p. 49]). When used w/vitamin K3, enhances effects of chemo . " Vitamin C...is okay with 5 FU and Adriamycin....Chinery et al, Nature Medicine " www.annieappleseedproject.org/amcolforadin1.html Sodium-1 and sodium-d ascorbates (vit. C) reduce the toxicity of 5-FU; they also enhanced the effectiveness of 5-FU and bleomycin in the treatment of neuroblastomas but not gliomas. WHEN COMBINED W/OTHER ANTIOXIDANTS, enhances effects of DTIC on melanoma (Prasad et al., 1994 cited in Moss, 2001, [p. 49]). Sodium ascorbate may be CONTRAindicated for neuroblastoma patients receiving methotrexate or DTIC (Prasad et al., 1979 cited in Moss, 2001, [p. 49]) . " Acute myelogenous leukemia [AML] cells were especially sensitive to...d-penicillamine plus copper...vitamin C could possibly neutralize the toxicity of d-penicillamine. " [unknown source] " vitamin C...produced a dose-dependent attenuation of cytotoxicity for 5 unrelated chemotherapy agents: doxorubicin, cisplatin, vincristine, methotrexate, and imatinib " Cancer Res. 2008;68:8031-8038 [This sounded like an in vitro study, so I question its validity.] Most importantly vit. C reverses multidrug resistance (MDR) (www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/multidrugresistance.html). >Vitamin K can help recycle DHA back to AA I assume you mean vitamin K1 (in green, leafy vegetables) rather than K2 (aka “Activator Xâ€/“Price Factorâ€, in grass-fed animal products in small amounts) or K3 (synthetic menadione). Thanks again for the great info, . I'll add it to my file. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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