Re: Any Dr's in Dayton, Ohio area? Intro and lots of questions

[Guest guest]

Read Dr. site at www.allthingsmale.com read TRT: A recipe for success and

his HCG update. In this are labs and why If I were you I would start with a 200

mgs shot to jump start you and then do 100 mgs every week to start. Make sure

you have your Estradiol " E2 " tested if high this can be one big problem it kills

ones sex life.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

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Phil

> From: emcs1200 <emcs1200@...>

> Subject: Any Dr's in Dayton, Ohio area? Intro and lots of

questions

>

> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 5:32 PM

> Hi,

>

> AM Testosterone is 149, slip from Dr's doesn't say

> if it's the total

> or T free. Both were to have been done. 50 years old, lifer

> on

> warfarin for deep vein clots on 3 different occassions.

> First run in

> with gout was last month.

>

> I've read over most of the files here.

>

> Symptoms are flacid even with stimulation, little interest,

> little

> energy,wife and kids say I'm irritable, can't get

> to sleep many

> nights until 2am or so despite going to bed about same time

> most

> nights and getting up between 7-8 every day.

>

> Going in for results appointment from Dr. on Wednesday.

>

> 1. What additional lab work should I ask for before

> starting

> treatment?

>

> 2. Realizing that my level is very low what treatment night

> be the

> best one to try first? I've a $2500.00 deductible so

> will be paying

> for most things out of pocket.

>

> 3. I've heard of atropy issues, how do I work with

> that?

>

> Larry

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry,

Welcome to the group. In reply to question 2, I agree with Phil-

shots are probably the cheapest method of Testosterone Replacement

Therapy. Now that you have begun T therapy, you've no doubt

calculated the cost for yourself. You might find buying supplies

(needles & syringes) online may be cheaper than buying in the store ( &

you can buy in bulk without arousing pharmacist suspicion).

Regarding question 3, Dr. mentions injecting HCG to counteract

testicular atrophy. HCG makes the testes continue to produce

testosterone despite the fact that you're also taking exogenous

testosterone from Depo T. Besides the aesthetic value, this can help

you use less Depo T. (Some men use HCG exclusively, but it generally

doesn't elevate testosterone as high as Depo T.)

In light of this info, you'd probably spend around $500 per year

overall for Depo T, HCG, syringes, & needles. Assuming that you may

need .5 mg Arimidex or similar aromatase inhibitor (to minimize

conversion of testosterone to estrogen) every other day, you could

spend another $150. (Not everyone on Depo T needs Arimidex, & dosing

amounts & schedules vary.) Hopefully, your labs are covered. If not,

there are online companies through which you can order labs (lef.org,

privatemdlabs.com, etc.).

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more.

~Xian

>

> > From: emcs1200 <emcs1200@...>

> > Subject: Any Dr's in Dayton, Ohio area? Intro and

lots of questions

> >

> > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 5:32 PM

> > Hi,

> >

> > AM Testosterone is 149, slip from Dr's doesn't say

> > if it's the total

> > or T free. Both were to have been done. 50 years old, lifer

> > on

> > warfarin for deep vein clots on 3 different occassions.

> > First run in

> > with gout was last month.

> >

> > I've read over most of the files here.

> >

> > Symptoms are flacid even with stimulation, little interest,

> > little

> > energy,wife and kids say I'm irritable, can't get

> > to sleep many

> > nights until 2am or so despite going to bed about same time

> > most

> > nights and getting up between 7-8 every day.

> >

> > Going in for results appointment from Dr. on Wednesday.

> >

> > 1. What additional lab work should I ask for before

> > starting

> > treatment?

> >

> > 2. Realizing that my level is very low what treatment night

> > be the

> > best one to try first? I've a $2500.00 deductible so

> > will be paying

> > for most things out of pocket.

> >

> > 3. I've heard of atropy issues, how do I work with

> > that?

> >

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry, forgot this last time. Another way you could save money would

be to see if you can get a prescription for 250 mg/mL Depo T. If you

get a 10 mL vial for about the same price, you get an additional 500

mg of T per bottle.

~Xian