A question RE: clomid dose [was: Re: On treatment and still feel

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Mike,

When I test my Estradoil while on Clomid, I find that it is about

50-60 (which as Phil notes, is meaningless because, in this case, it

doesn't inhibit the pituitary from producing and sending LH and FSH to

the testis for production). My higher estradoil, albeit meaningless,

is a result of a high testosterone on the Clomid (approx. 900).

Clomid basically never lets the pituitary believe that there is enough

testosterone and thus there is continuous messaging.

Blessings,

Bill

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> > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's been a while since I've posted. Long story short: went on

> > > Clomid

> > > > > > last summer after 3 blood tests on separate dates revealed low

> > free

> > > > > > testosterone (though low-normal total T - around 380). Clomid

> > raised

> > > > > > my free and total T levels but I felt like crap, very sleepy

> every

> > > > > > day, depressed, irritable. There was some improvement in

> > sexual side

> > > > > > effects including morning erections and more reliable orgasms.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Switched to TRT gel in November on the theory that maybe the

> > Clomid

> > > > > > was causing the issues. But here I am in late Feb after 3

> > months on

> > > > > > TRT and the sleepiness and depression continue. It's very

> weird. I

> > > > > > sometimes start the day feeling great, good mood, energetic.

> > But by

> > > > > > mid-afternoon it's like a switch goes off.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anyone else experienced this? My doc said my E2 levels

> > were very

> > > > > > low while on Clomid (but I didn't get the exact reading). I'm

> > > guessing

> > > > > > they're higher now since I'm on Testim, but the same symptoms

> > > > > > continue. Doc also ruled out infection and apnea as causes

> of the

> > > > > fatigue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can testosterone trigger or worsen depression? I'm pretty

> > > disappointed

> > > > > > since I was expecting to feel generally hornier and in a

> > better mood

> > > > > > more often than not. But instead, I'm marginally better in

> > terms of

> > > > > > sexual functioning but much more prone to depressed

episodes and

> > > mood

> > > > > > swings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any insights you could offer would be appreciated,

especially if

> > > > > > you've experienced this yourself. I've got a follow up with my

> > > > > > urologist next month and am in contact with my primary care

> about

> > > > > > continuing to rule out other stuff...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mike

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