Re: High E2 w/low E2 labs?

[Guest guest]

There is no " fat burner " as effective as " T " .

Evidently aromatase is not a problem with you. My E2 got up to 80

before I started Arimidex. Adipose (fat) tissue usually contains the

aromatase enzyme which converts T to E2.

Estrogen can be stored in fat as E1 ( estrone sulfate ).

I spent last summer walking 2-3 hours a day and Nordic Tracking for

over an hour at a time. I went from 231 lbs to 206 lbs.

I've lost most of my abdominal fat, but gained lots of muscle and

bounced back up to 214 lbs.

I don't recommend anything extreme. Just find an exercise you can do

consistently and do for many months.

My goal was to eat 300 fewer calories each day and burn 300 more

calories per day. With an allowance for occasional setbacks that

should yield a loss of 3 lbs / month.

Anything " extreme " is destined to failure. I gained my weight over

30 years at a rate of 2-3 pounds per year.

In order to get sustainable losses you need to do it over months and

years, not weeks.

If you lose 20 lbs over a few months, you will almost certainly gain

back 30 lbs when you stop the " extreme " exercise.

>

> Is it possible to have estradiol/estrogen stored in your fat

deposits

> that may be confusing your hpta even though lab tests show E2 is

less

> than 10 on a range of <54?

>

> All my fat is in my stomach. My LH is 3 (1-9) and FSH is 5 (2-

8) ...so

> my pit gland seems to work although my lh is low for T levels

around

> 300 rr 241-847.

>

> So maybe my fat is just holding Estrogen which is what is

preventing my

> HPTA from sensing low T and thus the low LH.

>

> Anyway, i'm gonna take some major extremes to burn my stomach fat.

I

> understand you can't spot reduce. I'm still gonna do some extreme

> dieting and cardio. Will take some time but will be diligent in

> getting it done. Will use some fat burning supplements as needed

> (ephederine and caffiene).

>

> Comments?

> Thx

>

[Guest guest]

Agree.

I used the wrong word for extreme. I meant I was gonna be

extrememely disciplined over the next few months with regards to my

eating habits. avoid the unnecessary processed

foods/carbs...generally eat more homeade meals and healthy lean

meats/veggies/fruits.

Will try to keep a 1-2 lb weight loss per week goal...want to go from

184 to 170. i'm 5'9 " so 184 isnt' that bad..but the fat is all in my

stomach and chest...definately think its storing estrone/estrogen

which is what keeps my hpta from sensing low T and as a result keeps

my LH somewhat low.

thx

> >

> > Is it possible to have estradiol/estrogen stored in your fat

> deposits

> > that may be confusing your hpta even though lab tests show E2 is

> less

> > than 10 on a range of <54?

> >

> > All my fat is in my stomach. My LH is 3 (1-9) and FSH is 5 (2-

> 8) ...so

> > my pit gland seems to work although my lh is low for T levels

> around

> > 300 rr 241-847.

> >

> > So maybe my fat is just holding Estrogen which is what is

> preventing my

> > HPTA from sensing low T and thus the low LH.

> >

> > Anyway, i'm gonna take some major extremes to burn my stomach

fat.

> I

> > understand you can't spot reduce. I'm still gonna do some

extreme

> > dieting and cardio. Will take some time but will be diligent in

> > getting it done. Will use some fat burning supplements as needed

> > (ephederine and caffiene).

> >

> > Comments?

> > Thx

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Is it possible to have estradiol/estrogen stored in your fat

deposits

> that may be confusing your hpta even though lab tests show E2 is

less

> than 10 on a range of <54?

Even if Estradiol was stored in your fat cells, it would have to get

into the blood stream inorder to even have an effect upon your HPTA.

Thus is seems logical that your E2 levels would be higher than what

you are currently seeing if your theory is correct Aromitase

activity takes place in adipose tissue or fat, so increased fat

levels could increase a mans Estrogen levels.

> All my fat is in my stomach. My LH is 3 (1-9) and FSH is 5 (2-

8) ...so

> my pit gland seems to work although my lh is low for T levels

around

> 300 rr 241-847.

Were these your baseline levels before starting TRT or after you had

been on TRT for a while? Also, most docs do not get this right but

if you are doing tests on FSH and LH, the test should be performed

first thing in the morning. Dr. Crowley at Harvard Medical School

told me that too many doctors miss this key aspect of testing for LH

and FSH and consequently, they end up with useless test results.

> So maybe my fat is just holding Estrogen which is what is

preventing my

> HPTA from sensing low T and thus the low LH.

> Anyway, i'm gonna take some major extremes to burn my stomach fat.

I

> understand you can't spot reduce. I'm still gonna do some extreme

> dieting and cardio. Will take some time but will be diligent in

> getting it done. Will use some fat burning supplements as needed

> (ephederine and caffiene).

>

> Comments?

> Thx

>

Have you had your thyroid checked as well as your cortisol levels

checked? If your cortisol levels are high, you will have a very

difficult time loosing weight

[Guest guest]

>

> Even if Estradiol was stored in your fat cells, it would have to

get

> into the blood stream inorder to even have an effect upon your

HPTA.

> Thus is seems logical that your E2 levels would be higher than what

> you are currently seeing if your theory is correct Aromitase

> activity takes place in adipose tissue or fat, so increased fat

> levels could increase a mans Estrogen levels.

>

Understand. So when u say increased fat could increase a mans

estrogen levels are u referring to total estrogens? or are u still

talking about estradiol?

My levels for 3 lh and 5 fsh with 300 (241-847 range) is prior to any

TRT or HRT for that matter. i'm not on any TRT right now as it has

done zero for me. im gonna try to lose fat over next few wks and

have started last week with some good results so far. TSH and

cortisol are all ideal numbers. by next month if im losing fat with

no increase in libido i'll try Clomid to increase my LH. a previous

hcg prescription confirmed my testes work just fine.