Low T Feel Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

[Guest guest]

Does having low test feel like you have chronic fatigue syndrome. my

latest test results for Test Level was 170. Should that be causing me

significant symptoms? I got my first test injection today of 200 eth.

1cc and when the nurse gave it to me I asked if and when I might see

any improvemnt on my quality of life since I basically am house bound

from the fatigue and off work. She said " I DONT KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO

CURE ALL OF YOUR SYMPTOMS! " Now I dont know if maybe I have something

else going on and the low t is just a result of that or if my low t is

causing most of my symptoms. I have severe fatigue, muscle cramps from

any kind of physical activity, severe brain issues like I have become

totally stupid and cant remember nothing, sleep disturbances, and

basically dont care much about life anymore. Damn nurse now she has me

thinking I have something else going on and that the Dr.s are missing

it because after many many tests the only red flag coming up is the Low

Test. Grrrrrrr. What do you guys thinK?

[Guest guest]

>

> Does having low test feel like you have chronic fatigue syndrome.

my

> latest test results for Test Level was 170. Should that be causing

me

> significant symptoms? I got my first test injection today of 200

eth.

> 1cc and when the nurse gave it to me I asked if and when I might

see

> any improvemnt on my quality of life since I basically am house

bound

> from the fatigue and off work. She said " I DONT KNOW IF IT IS

GOING TO

> CURE ALL OF YOUR SYMPTOMS! " Now I dont know if maybe I have

something

> else going on and the low t is just a result of that or if my low

t is

> causing most of my symptoms. I have severe fatigue, muscle cramps

from

> any kind of physical activity, severe brain issues like I have

become

> totally stupid and cant remember nothing, sleep disturbances, and

> basically dont care much about life anymore. Damn nurse now she

has me

> thinking I have something else going on and that the Dr.s are

missing

> it because after many many tests the only red flag coming up is

the Low

> Test. Grrrrrrr. What do you guys thinK?

>

It sounds like low T to me, all those symptoms are symptoms of low T

[Guest guest]

A testosterone level this low could be causing easy fatigue/exhaustion

from minute tasks, loss of muscle mass, weakness, memory problems,

anxiety, lack of motivation/depression, & lots of other things.

However, other hormonal culprits could be low cortisol or thyroid

imbalance- either too high or too low. Currently, there is some

investigation of a relationship between hypothyroidism & Chronic

Fatigue Syndrome

(http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/11/05/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/).

In any event, one imbalance tends to trigger another.

Read Phil's story on stopthethyroidmadness.com or find pieces of it in

this group- you might be able to identify with many of his

symptoms/limitations prior to starting TRT, thyroid replacement

therapy, & hydrocortisone (his whole endocrine system was messed up

due to pituitary damage from a head injury). Testosterone can affect

everything else, so you may or may not need additional meds depending

on how much testosterone normalizes some of the other hormones.

Do you have any other hormone test results?

~Xian

>

> Does having low test feel like you have chronic fatigue syndrome. my

> latest test results for Test Level was 170. Should that be causing me

> significant symptoms? I got my first test injection today of 200 eth.

> 1cc and when the nurse gave it to me I asked if and when I might see

> any improvemnt on my quality of life since I basically am house bound

> from the fatigue and off work. She said " I DONT KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO

> CURE ALL OF YOUR SYMPTOMS! " Now I dont know if maybe I have something

> else going on and the low t is just a result of that or if my low t is

> causing most of my symptoms. I have severe fatigue, muscle cramps from

> any kind of physical activity, severe brain issues like I have become

> totally stupid and cant remember nothing, sleep disturbances, and

> basically dont care much about life anymore. Damn nurse now she has me

> thinking I have something else going on and that the Dr.s are missing

> it because after many many tests the only red flag coming up is the Low

> Test. Grrrrrrr. What do you guys thinK?

>

[Guest guest]

You will find a lot of the medical community is not educated in this area. This

level of T is very low and could in fact be causing your problems. One step at a

time. Get your T up and see what symptoms it alleviates. When my T was 180 I was

tired all the time. 200 mg is a large shot however - what is the plan going

forward?

 

Arkansas

From: clayphilpot <clayphilpot@...>

Subject: Low T Feel Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:47 PM

Does having low test feel like you have chronic fatigue syndrome. my

latest test results for Test Level was 170. Should that be causing me

significant symptoms? I got my first test injection today of 200 eth.

1cc and when the nurse gave it to me I asked if and when I might see

any improvemnt on my quality of life since I basically am house bound

from the fatigue and off work. She said " I DONT KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO

CURE ALL OF YOUR SYMPTOMS! " Now I dont know if maybe I have something

else going on and the low t is just a result of that or if my low t is

causing most of my symptoms. I have severe fatigue, muscle cramps from

any kind of physical activity, severe brain issues like I have become

totally stupid and cant remember nothing, sleep disturbances, and

basically dont care much about life anymore. Damn nurse now she has me

thinking I have something else going on and that the Dr.s are missing

it because after many many tests the only red flag coming up is the Low

Test. Grrrrrrr. What do you guys thinK?

[Guest guest]

Those are indeed signs of low T and 170 is very low unless you are about 150

years old.

 

The best thing for you to do at this point is continue the T injections.  Get

your level up to the upper third of your range.  Have your blood checked in two

months.  I would feel safe to say you should be able to feel better within the

two months.  A thyroid test or even a E2 test might have to be considered.  But

for now, stay with the T injections.  Let us know your progress.

 

Dan     

From: clayphilpot <clayphilpot@...>

Subject: Low T Feel Like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:47 PM

Does having low test feel like you have chronic fatigue syndrome. my

latest test results for Test Level was 170. Should that be causing me

significant symptoms? I got my first test injection today of 200 eth.

1cc and when the nurse gave it to me I asked if and when I might see

any improvemnt on my quality of life since I basically am house bound

from the fatigue and off work. She said " I DONT KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO

CURE ALL OF YOUR SYMPTOMS! " Now I dont know if maybe I have something

else going on and the low t is just a result of that or if my low t is

causing most of my symptoms. I have severe fatigue, muscle cramps from

any kind of physical activity, severe brain issues like I have become

totally stupid and cant remember nothing, sleep disturbances, and

basically dont care much about life anymore. Damn nurse now she has me

thinking I have something else going on and that the Dr.s are missing

it because after many many tests the only red flag coming up is the Low

Test. Grrrrrrr. What do you guys thinK?

[Guest guest]

14 months ago I was in a similar situation, although I was always

able to work. I could get 10 hours sleep and 8 hours later I'd fall

asleep in a recliner chair.

I started on 1 ml of 200 mg/ml of Testosterone Cypionate a month,

then doubled that dose.

Later I went to bi-weekly injections instead of monthly. I added 1/4

mg of Arimidex every other day after reading about that here. After

10 months of T injections, my E2, Estradiol had climbed to 75 pg/mL.

Normal range for men is 0 - 53 pg/mL. My Estrone ( E1 ) was 81 pg/ML

and the normal range is 12-72.

Adipose (fat) tissue has an enzyme called aromatase, which can

convert testosterone to estrogen. Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor

and this will reduce the effect.

Although I felt better within the first day of my testosterone

injection it was about 3 months before I felt the full effect.

I spent last summer exercising more and feeling more physically fit

than ever before in my life. I was never athletic or very physically

active even in my youth.

I have walked for 3 solid hours without stopping and have done 1 hour

20 minutes on the Nordic Track without stopping. I converted a lot

of fat to muscle. I was 231 pounds when I started.

I got down to 206, but have gained back to 215 since winter came on.

With regular testosterone injection I think you will find that if you

apply a constant effort toward exercise, your results and capacity

will rise exponentially.

I still don't run much.... Mostly walking and Nordic Track, but I've

got energy and have built up a lot of muscle.

It takes less effort to do an hour on the Nordic Track then it did to

do 5 minutes a year ago.

>

> Does having low test feel like you have chronic fatigue syndrome.

my

> latest test results for Test Level was 170. Should that be causing

me

> significant symptoms? I got my first test injection today of 200

eth.

> 1cc and when the nurse gave it to me I asked if and when I might

see

> any improvemnt on my quality of life since I basically am house

bound

> from the fatigue and off work. She said " I DONT KNOW IF IT IS GOING

TO

> CURE ALL OF YOUR SYMPTOMS! " Now I dont know if maybe I have

something

> else going on and the low t is just a result of that or if my low t

is

> causing most of my symptoms. I have severe fatigue, muscle cramps

from

> any kind of physical activity, severe brain issues like I have

become

> totally stupid and cant remember nothing, sleep disturbances, and

> basically dont care much about life anymore. Damn nurse now she has

me

> thinking I have something else going on and that the Dr.s are

missing

> it because after many many tests the only red flag coming up is the

Low

> Test. Grrrrrrr. What do you guys thinK?

>