Re: Testosterone genetics, reaction

[Guest guest]

If your father was muscular, does that automatically make you muscular or is

there other factors?

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From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 5:51:01 PM

Subject: Re: Testosterone genetics, reaction

 

ACtually i am working on this answer and I may have found why we are so sick it

lies actually in writings that have been around 2000 years. I am also working on

new research that may open new doors to cancer and many other degenerative

disorders. I just have to test my hypothesis out and if it corresponds it will

revolutionize cancer prevention. Every notice that as autism goes up so does

cancer I believe I have the mechanism by how this is explained.

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@

> > >

> > > > > > Subject: Testosterone

> > > genetics,

> > > > > reaction

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:58

> > PM

> > > > > > Why is it that if you give one person

> > > > > > the same amount of testosterone as

> > another,

> > > one of

> > > > > them

> > > > > > would respond to the hormone a lot

> > better

> > > and become a

> > > > > lean

> > > > > > muscular monster, and the other would

> > just

> > > be

> > > > > average?

> > > > > > Is that how your genetics are set?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------

> > ------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

That is great keep up the good work someone needs too.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone genetics, reaction

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:51 PM

> ACtually i am working on this answer

> and I may have found why we are so sick it lies actually in

> writings that have been around 2000 years. I am also working

> on new research that may open new doors to cancer and many

> other degenerative disorders.  I just have to test my

> hypothesis out and if it corresponds it will revolutionize

> cancer prevention.  Every notice that as autism goes up

> so does cancer I believe I have the mechanism by how this is

> explained. 

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@

> > > >

> > > > > > > Subject:

> Testosterone

> > > > genetics,

> > > > > > reaction

> > > > > > > @

> groups. com

> > > > > > > Date: Monday, October 19,

> 2009, 9:58

> > > PM

> > > > > > > Why is it that if you give

> one person

> > > > > > > the same amount of

> testosterone as

> > > another,

> > > > one of

> > > > > > them

> > > > > > > would respond to the hormone

> a lot

> > > better

> > > > and become a

> > > > > > lean

> > > > > > > muscular monster, and the

> other would

> > > just

> > > > be

> > > > > > average?

> > > > > > > Is that how your genetics are

> set?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------ ---------

> ---------

> > > ------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Well I pray you don't have a Pituitary Problem if you do it can mean your

Cortisol and Thyroid might need treatment. One thing at a time if you have a

health care plain that will pay for the androgel go for it I feel it works best

for men. But you will start on a low dose with an Endo if they give you it.

The problem with a starting dose is you need to redo labs in 2 weeks to be sure

it's working and the dose is high enough. Men with a thyroid problem don't do

well on gels and creams because there skin gets thicker and the gels and creams

can't get through.

Don't let a Dr. put you on a low dose 5 grams of Androgel or Testim and tell you

to come beak in 4 to 8 weeks for labs. You can end up lower then you started.

And to answer your Questions YES you will feel much better as long as all the

other hormones are good.

I have a pituitary problem it took me 23 yrs to figure this out now I treat all

the low normal hormones and I feel better been doing this 4 yrs now. And I will

be adding Growth Hormone this week as soon as my Drug Plan approves this.

I don't feel men on gels get levels up into the 1000 I don't even keep my levels

this high on shots and HCG. I am at 875.

Your in dam good hands with Hardasnails.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: jim <virtuosa150>

> > Subject: Re: Testosterone genetics,

> reaction

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 1:27 PM

> > Phil,

> > I tend toward the ectomorph frame. I think what did me

> in

> > with the low T and the adrenal problems was the low

> rep work

> > I was doing. I was doing a workout called rippetoes

> 5x5. Too

> > much work with not enough recovery. I was getting

> strong and

> > putting on muscle, then about 2 yrs. ago it all

> stopped. Now

> > I know the importance of recovery. Plus I will be

> cycling

> > the reps from low to high.

> >

> > Don't get me wrong, I'm by no means massive or

> anything. I

> > just enjoyed lifting weights and saw progress. I've

> been off

> > the last 2 months. Bitter medicine to swallow, but

> needed.

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@

> >

> > > > > Subject: Testosterone

> > genetics,

> > > > reaction

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:58

> PM

> > > > > Why is it that if you give one person

> > > > > the same amount of testosterone as

> another,

> > one of

> > > > them

> > > > > would respond to the hormone a lot

> better

> > and become a

> > > > lean

> > > > > muscular monster, and the other would

> just

> > be

> > > > average?

> > > > > Is that how your genetics are set?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- ---------

> ------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

No both my Mother and Father were small people my Dad was 5' 6 " tall and my

Mother was 5' 2 " tall. My brothers and sister were small I was at age 16 210

lbs with an 18 " nick and was in to Olympic Weight lifting I came in 3rd place

for the Detroit Junior Weight Lifting championship.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Matt Obrien <mattobrien71@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone genetics, reaction

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 10:01 PM

> If your father was muscular, does

> that automatically make you muscular or is there other

> factors?

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 5:51:01 PM

> Subject: Re: Testosterone genetics,

> reaction

>

>  

> ACtually i am working on this answer and I may have found

> why we are so sick it lies actually in writings that have

> been around 2000 years. I am also working on new research

> that may open new doors to cancer and many other

> degenerative disorders. I just have to test my hypothesis

> out and if it corresponds it will revolutionize cancer

> prevention. Every notice that as autism goes up so does

> cancer I believe I have the mechanism by how this is

> explained.

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@

> > > >

> > > > > > > Subject:

> Testosterone

> > > > genetics,

> > > > > > reaction

> > > > > > > @

> groups. com

> > > > > > > Date: Monday, October 19,

> 2009, 9:58

> > > PM

> > > > > > > Why is it that if you give

> one person

> > > > > > > the same amount of

> testosterone as

> > > another,

> > > > one of

> > > > > > them

> > > > > > > would respond to the hormone

> a lot

> > > better

> > > > and become a

> > > > > > lean

> > > > > > > muscular monster, and the

> other would

> > > just

> > > > be

> > > > > > average?

> > > > > > > Is that how your genetics are

> set?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------ ---------

> ---------

> > > ------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >