Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Another thing with my Low T, is the low blood pressure and hemoglobin. Has anyone experienced cold hands feet and cold intolerance due to low T, also since I halted my puberty maturation somewhere before it was done, if the proper treatment is given will that continue out normally and finish? ________________________________ From: Matt Obrien <mattobrien71@...> Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:53:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: Stuck in starvation. They took LH and FSH which were the same as always, low. Reverse T3 was 138 pg/mL (90-350) pg/mL I havn't heard about the MRI or the growth plate X-ray yet. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@ comcast.net> @ groups. .com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:19:49 PM Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. Please provide testing they completed. Did they do reverse t3? > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71> > > > > Subject: Stuck in starvation. > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:37 PM > > > > It seems as though my body is stuck > > > > in starvation mode from when I lost that weight over a year > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers to identify this, I have > > > > gained the weight back yet am always hungry. > > > > It has to be something my body is not understanding that > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Matt, I was having problems with low blood pressure. My adrenal functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a 24hr. saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type symptoms? How about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71> > > > > > Subject: Stuck in starvation. > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:37 PM > > > > > It seems as though my body is stuck > > > > > in starvation mode from when I lost that weight over a year > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers to identify this, I have > > > > > gained the weight back yet am always hungry. > > > > > It has to be something my body is not understanding that > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 This is a link to Matt's first post and a cut and paste of it. If you go to the link you can read replys. /message/52172 ========================================================================== Hello my name is Matt O'Brien. I am a 16 year old in highschool and recently I had some blood work done because for the past year I have been feeling the following symptoms: Fatigue, weakness, constant hunger, cold body temperature, frequent urination and overall lack of enjoyment in everything I used to do. The blood work came back with extremely low tesosterone, high cortisol, and little pituitary function. What triggered all of this happened a year ago in the summer of 2008. Starting the summer around June I weighed 130 lbs and just got done competing at state wrestling. When that was over I decided to cut down for next year right away to have a better chance at doing better in wrestling. I started eating less and less, and eventually all I ate was mostly protein, verry little carbohydrates, and little to no fats at all. All of this ended around September, so from June-September around four months I had pretty much developed an eating disorder from my favorite sport. Before I had my bodyfat taken for school,I was at 7% so I was naturaly lean anyway. Not only that but I am losing weight but gaining that bodyfat... I don't understand if the low tesosterone and growth hormone is causing bone and muscle loss, but I lift three times a week at the school and have not noticed many strength losses, I just can never get any stronger. It kills me to know that everything I do will only make me worse, I have no idea how to correct this hypothalamic/pituitary problem. It would mean so much to me if you could help me with this, I think my doctor is running out of ideas for me. He has sent me to an endocrineologist in Des Moines, IA and she took seven serums of bloodwork showing all this. I should probably tell you that I'm not nutritionally defecient in any way, I eat around 2,000 calories a day full of the right protein, carbohydrates, and fats. I even supplement healthy fats like fish oil omegas to try to help it. I take a multi-vitamin and an extra b-vitamin complex everyday to try and help. Nothing works. Not only did all of this mess with my quaility of life, my favorite sport, wrestling, is now being taken away from me because I don't have the energy to practice or compete... The last two endocrinologists I have seen have told me to " wait it out " but that's kind of hard with such low levels at such a young age. I was wondering if anyone knows any good dr.s from Iowa that could help me out, or have any suggestions. Levels go as follow: IGF-1- 243 range (257-601) T4 (Free) 1.04 (0.89-1.76) TSH 1.17 (.35-5.50) LH 2.2 (1.5-9.3) Testosterone 96.7 (241-827) Normal CBC and Comp Metabolic The only other thing the Dr. noticed that was abnormal was a low Hemoglobin with normal ferratin, Iron and TIBC. Hemoglobin 11.9 (13.0-16.0) RBC 3.97 (4.70-6.10) Hematocrit 34.5 (39-50) IGF-1- 243 range (257-601) ACTH 23 pg/ml normal with cortisol Co-Moderator Phil > From: marcmichaudgt <MisterX225@...> > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:45 PM > > I can't find any info on the diet he did. Can someone > repost it. > > Hang in there Matt! > > - Marc > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck in > starvation. > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:37 > PM > > > > > It seems as though my body is stuck > > > > > in starvation mode from when I lost > that weight > > > over a > > > > year > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers to > identify this, > > > I > > > > have > > > > > gained the weight back yet am always > hungry. > > > > > It has to be something my body is not > > > understanding > > > > that > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > ------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 At one time Matt posted a 3x's in a day saliva test he did that showed me his Cortisol levels are low. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jim <virtuosa150@...> > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:21 AM > Matt, > > I was having problems with low blood pressure. My adrenal > functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a 24hr. > saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type symptoms? How > about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck in > starvation. > > > > > > @ groups. > com > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, > 4:37 PM > > > > > > It seems as though my body is > stuck > > > > > > in starvation mode from when I > lost that weight over a year > > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers to > identify this, I have > > > > > > gained the weight back yet am > always hungry. > > > > > > It has to be something my body is > not understanding that > > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hypoglycemia as in hunger? ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 10:13:01 AM Subject: Re: Re: Stuck in starvation. At one time Matt posted a 3x's in a day saliva test he did that showed me his Cortisol levels are low. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jim <virtuosa150> > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:21 AM > Matt, > > I was having problems with low blood pressure. My adrenal > functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a 24hr. > saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type symptoms? How > about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck in > starvation. > > > > > > @ groups. > com > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, > 4:37 PM > > > > > > It seems as though my body is > stuck > > > > > > in starvation mode from when I > lost that weight over a year > > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers to > identify this, I have > > > > > > gained the weight back yet am > always hungry. > > > > > > It has to be something my body is > not understanding that > > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 For my first endo visit they took a cortisol. It was an afternoon test and came back 23 with a range of 5-17, They told me the exact opposite of what I'm hearing here. They said I had too much cortisol and I do wake up at the same time every morning and feel refreshed for a while, I beleive my cortisol's fine ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 10:13:01 AM Subject: Re: Re: Stuck in starvation. At one time Matt posted a 3x's in a day saliva test he did that showed me his Cortisol levels are low. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jim <virtuosa150> > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:21 AM > Matt, > > I was having problems with low blood pressure. My adrenal > functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a 24hr. > saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type symptoms? How > about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck in > starvation. > > > > > > @ groups. > com > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, > 4:37 PM > > > > > > It seems as though my body is > stuck > > > > > > in starvation mode from when I > lost that weight over a year > > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers to > identify this, I have > > > > > > gained the weight back yet am > always hungry. > > > > > > It has to be something my body is > not understanding that > > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 No Hypoglycemia is low sugar I have this problem do to low levels of Cortisol and Adrenal problems. I eat something before going to bed to keep my sugar levels up over night. I even keep something to eat on my night stand in case I wake up in a sweat and am shaking. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: jim <virtuosa150> > > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:21 AM > > Matt, > > > > I was having problems with low blood pressure. My > adrenal > > functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a > 24hr. > > saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type > symptoms? How > > about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck > in > > starvation. > > > > > > > @ > groups. > > com > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, > 2009, > > 4:37 PM > > > > > > > It seems as though my body > is > > stuck > > > > > > > in starvation mode from when > I > > lost that weight over a year > > > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers > to > > identify this, I have > > > > > > > gained the weight back yet > am > > always hungry. > > > > > > > It has to be something my > body is > > not understanding that > > > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- > --------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 This is what I mean about Endo's they are useless you don't test Cortisol levels in the after noon and your levels might be high because you did not fast first and you were upset about them taking your blood. People also have high levels in the early stages of Adrenal problems read this link I gave it to you before it has the stages of Adrenal Insufficiency just click on each stage and look at the results of the saliva labs in each. As you can see here in stage one people are way to high this means your adrenals are working to hard and if they keep this up will stop working and you end up with low levels by the last stage. http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%201%20.html Please read this link. http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/ Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: jim <virtuosa150> > > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:21 AM > > Matt, > > > > I was having problems with low blood pressure. My > adrenal > > functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a > 24hr. > > saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type > symptoms? How > > about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck > in > > starvation. > > > > > > > @ > groups. > > com > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, > 2009, > > 4:37 PM > > > > > > > It seems as though my body > is > > stuck > > > > > > > in starvation mode from when > I > > lost that weight over a year > > > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers > to > > identify this, I have > > > > > > > gained the weight back yet > am > > always hungry. > > > > > > > It has to be something my > body is > > not understanding that > > > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- > --------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Oh thank God but no, never had this my fasting glucose was normal as well along with non fasting. ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 3:37:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: Stuck in starvation. No Hypoglycemia is low sugar I have this problem do to low levels of Cortisol and Adrenal problems. I eat something before going to bed to keep my sugar levels up over night. I even keep something to eat on my night stand in case I wake up in a sweat and am shaking.. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: jim <virtuosa150> > > Subject: Re: Stuck in starvation. > > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:21 AM > > Matt, > > > > I was having problems with low blood pressure. My > adrenal > > functions are low. Have you had yours tested with a > 24hr. > > saliva test? Are you having hypoglycemia type > symptoms? How > > about this HAN? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matt <mattobrien71@ > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Stuck > in > > starvation. > > > > > > > @ > groups. > > com > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 21, > 2009, > > 4:37 PM > > > > > > > It seems as though my body > is > > stuck > > > > > > > in starvation mode from when > I > > lost that weight over a year > > > > > > > ago. Is there hormone markers > to > > identify this, I have > > > > > > > gained the weight back yet > am > > always hungry. > > > > > > > It has to be something my > body is > > not understanding that > > > > > > > can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- > --------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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