Re: [Hypogonadism2] Extremely low T

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> > Many of us would argue with this. We find most endocrinologists are not

> > current on our condition. Few for example test E2 levels, which all of

> > us would say is essential. Many of us have found good GP who listen to

> > their patients and will work with you. If you bring them things like the

> > AACE guidelines and articles on E2 they respond and work with you.

> > Endocrinologists almost as a class seem incapable of listening to their

> > patients. I think that's a fair summary of the general opinion in this

> > group of a few 1000s of us.

Hi there

I have read the replies to my own post and would like to make this comment:

If you bring them things like the

AACE guide-lines

Who do you think wrote these AACE guide-lines? Clinical Endocrinologists.

Visit the website http://www.aace.com/

American Association of

Clinical Endocrinologists Do the AACE guide-lines say patients are better NOT

seeing an Endocrinologist as

part of the guide-lines or in any of their publications?

Why do you accept the AACE guide-lines written by endocrinologists and then

ignore

their help.

I did not say go to a bad or negligent endocrinologist but said quite distinctly

find a

top endocrinologist at a top medical teaching hospital and one who publishes in

the

field. Endocrinology is very wide and so most endocrinologists tackle the best

known

and most common illness - Diabetes and so most of the endocrinologists at a

general

hospital are trained as Diabetitian. But you do not want an Endocrinologist who

is a

Diabetitian for Pituitary etc.

I too am a patient and met medics not sufficiently competent in Pituitary

matters but

that does not stop me going to one who is qualifies, experienced. In the UK

testogel

was tested by Urologists and that is fine for some matters including some

endocrine

illnesses but not if you need Pituitary or medical rather than surgical help.

However, my main point was that no medication should be taken until a whole

battery

of tests, including an MRi have been made who ever you see. If you have a

experienced qualified GP - GPs have studied some branch of medicine and a few

might well have studied endocrinology at med school, then that medic should not

prescribe without a diagnosis. if they do it is wrong.

I agree many consultants do not test for E2. That then does not mean your GP

knows

even better because they have decided to take a blood test as the patient asked.

Kind regards,

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