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All labs are about like this I go in 2 weeks before I see my Dr. and do labs I

take a list with me that the Dr. went over on my last visit. This way when I

see him my labs are back.

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Phil

> From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> Subject: Quest Diagnostics

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 9:05 AM

> Why is Quest Diagnostics telling me it is going to take as

> much as 21

> days to get the E2, Total and Free T portions of my initial

> tests back

> as recommended by Dr. .

>

> Estradiol (E2), I would think with as much of an importance

> it has to

> women that labs would be prepared for something less than a

> 21 day

> lead time.

>

> Are there any alternatives? I really want to find some

> form of meter

> or equipment to track testosterone free/total and E2, which

> seem to be

> the sticking points in getting my labs back.

>

> INITIAL LABWORK

>

> •Total Testosterone

> •Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA " Free and Loosely

> Bound " )

> •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)

> •DHT

> •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or

> " sensitive " assay for males)

> •LH

> •FSH

> •Prolactin

> •Cortisol

> •Thyroid Panel

> •CBC

> •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> •Lipid Profile

> •PSA (if over 40)

> •IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

>

>

> FOLLOW-UP LABS

>

> Two weeks after initiating a transdermal, or five weeks

> after the

> first IM injection:

>

> •Total Testosterone

> •Bioavailable Testosterone

> •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is still

> unavailable)

> •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or

> " sensitive " assay for males)

> •DHT (especially if patient is using a transdermal

> delivery system)

> •FSH (3rd Generation—ultrasensitive assay this time)

> •CBC

> •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> •Lipid Profile

> •PSA (for more senior patients)

> •IGF-1 (if GH Therapy has been initiated already)

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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My Endo said, if I wanted to get a sperm count I would need to be off TRT for

about three weeks from the testing of Quest. Is this true or can I take this

sperm test while on Ando?

From: tomubl <ubl@...>

Subject: Quest Diagnostics

Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:05 PM

Why is Quest Diagnostics telling me it is going to take as much as

21

days to get the E2, Total and Free T portions of my initial tests back

as recommended by Dr. .

Estradiol (E2), I would think with as much of an importance it has to

women that labs would be prepared for something less than a 21 day

lead time.

Are there any alternatives? I really want to find some form of meter

or equipment to track testosterone free/total and E2, which seem to be

the sticking points in getting my labs back.

INITIAL LABWORK

•Total Testosterone

•Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA " Free and Loosely Bound " )

•Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)

•DHT

•Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or " sensitive " assay for males)

•LH

•FSH

•Prolactin

•Cortisol

•Thyroid Panel

•CBC

•Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

•Lipid Profile

•PSA (if over 40)

•IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

FOLLOW-UP LABS

Two weeks after initiating a transdermal, or five weeks after the

first IM injection:

•Total Testosterone

•Bioavailable Testosterone

•Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is still unavailable)

•Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or " sensitive " assay for males)

•DHT (especially if patient is using a transdermal delivery system)

•FSH (3rd Generation—ultrasens itive assay this time)

•CBC

•Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

•Lipid Profile

•PSA (for more senior patients)

•IGF-1 (if GH Therapy has been initiated already)

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Once your on TRT coming off it is not gerente your brain will start sending LH

and FSH to your Testis. I have see guys come off TRT do HCG and have a baby

then go back on it. Others nothing and stopping just 2 weeks will not work I

have yet to see it work. Once you go on TRT that's it if you stop to try to

make a baby you need to do HCG for a time then come off this and do clomid. The

HCG gets your testis working again if your not Primary. Problem is most Dr.'s

see your low and just jump on giving him TRT with out trying to figure out why

they are low. So most men on TRT don't know if they are Primary meaning there

Testis don't work well or Secondary meaning there is a Pituitary problem where

the pit is not telling the testis to make T.

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Phil

> From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> Subject: Quest Diagnostics

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:05 PM

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> Why is Quest Diagnostics telling me it is going

> to take as much as 21

>

> days to get the E2, Total and Free T portions of my initial

> tests back

>

> as recommended by Dr. .

>

>

>

> Estradiol (E2), I would think with as much of an importance

> it has to

>

> women that labs would be prepared for something less than a

> 21 day

>

> lead time.

>

>

>

> Are there any alternatives? I really want to find some

> form of meter

>

> or equipment to track testosterone free/total and E2, which

> seem to be

>

> the sticking points in getting my labs back.

>

>

>

> INITIAL LABWORK

>

>

>

> •Total Testosterone

>

> •Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA " Free and Loosely

> Bound " )

>

> •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)

>

> •DHT

>

> •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or

> " sensitive " assay for males)

>

> •LH

>

> •FSH

>

> •Prolactin

>

> •Cortisol

>

> •Thyroid Panel

>

> •CBC

>

> •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

>

> •Lipid Profile

>

> •PSA (if over 40)

>

> •IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

>

>

>

> FOLLOW-UP LABS

>

>

>

> Two weeks after initiating a transdermal, or five weeks

> after the

>

> first IM injection:

>

>

>

> •Total Testosterone

>

> •Bioavailable Testosterone

>

> •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is still

> unavailable)

>

> •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or

> " sensitive " assay for males)

>

> •DHT (especially if patient is using a transdermal

> delivery system)

>

> •FSH (3rd Generation—ultrasens itive assay this time)

>

> •CBC

>

> •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

>

> •Lipid Profile

>

> •PSA (for more senior patients)

>

> •IGF-1 (if GH Therapy has been initiated already)

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Good point Phil, but I have known that I was secondary from the git

go. The iron overload had complicated the anterior lobe signaling of

the pituitary. MRI's indicate normal size, not squished or flattened,

no scares or lesions or tumors, but my pituitary has been flat lined

by having hemochromatosis (iron overload).

I am not a big fan of having to shoot hormones for the rest of my

days, but what exactly does out healthcare system that is 37th in the

world have to offer in terms of getting the anterior lobe to signal

correctly again? I have conducted tons of research on this issue, and

I simply do not see any alternatives to somehow fixing anterior lobe

signaling deficiencies. If there is a procedure I really would like to

know about it.

Tom U

> > From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> > Subject: Quest Diagnostics

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:05 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Why is Quest Diagnostics telling me it is going

> > to take as much as 21

> >

> > days to get the E2, Total and Free T portions of my initial

> > tests back

> >

> > as recommended by Dr. .

> >

> >

> >

> > Estradiol (E2), I would think with as much of an importance

> > it has to

> >

> > women that labs would be prepared for something less than a

> > 21 day

> >

> > lead time.

> >

> >

> >

> > Are there any alternatives? I really want to find some

> > form of meter

> >

> > or equipment to track testosterone free/total and E2, which

> > seem to be

> >

> > the sticking points in getting my labs back.

> >

> >

> >

> > INITIAL LABWORK

> >

> >

> >

> > •Total Testosterone

> >

> > •Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA " Free and Loosely

> > Bound " )

> >

> > •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)

> >

> > •DHT

> >

> > •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or

> > " sensitive " assay for males)

> >

> > •LH

> >

> > •FSH

> >

> > •Prolactin

> >

> > •Cortisol

> >

> > •Thyroid Panel

> >

> > •CBC

> >

> > •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> >

> > •Lipid Profile

> >

> > •PSA (if over 40)

> >

> > •IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

> >

> >

> >

> > FOLLOW-UP LABS

> >

> >

> >

> > Two weeks after initiating a transdermal, or five weeks

> > after the

> >

> > first IM injection:

> >

> >

> >

> > •Total Testosterone

> >

> > •Bioavailable Testosterone

> >

> > •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is still

> > unavailable)

> >

> > •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or

> > " sensitive " assay for males)

> >

> > •DHT (especially if patient is using a transdermal

> > delivery system)

> >

> > •FSH (3rd Generation†" ultrasens itive assay this time)

> >

> > •CBC

> >

> > •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> >

> > •Lipid Profile

> >

> > •PSA (for more senior patients)

> >

> > •IGF-1 (if GH Therapy has been initiated already)

> >

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Me Too my pituitary is bad do to an auto accident where I hit my head in the

roof of the car. I have read about things you can do to fix it but it's all

bull just people trying to get money sick people that don't even have any.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> Subject: Re: Quest Diagnostics

>

> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 4:39 PM

> Good point Phil, but I have known that I was secondary from

> the git

> go. The iron overload had complicated the anterior lobe

> signaling of

> the pituitary. MRI's indicate normal size, not

> squished or flattened,

> no scares or lesions or tumors, but my pituitary has been

> flat lined

> by having hemochromatosis (iron overload).

>

> I am not a big fan of having to shoot hormones for the rest

> of my

> days, but what exactly does out healthcare system that is

> 37th in the

> world have to offer in terms of getting the anterior lobe

> to signal

> correctly again? I have conducted tons of research on this

> issue, and

> I simply do not see any alternatives to somehow fixing

> anterior lobe

> signaling deficiencies. If there is a procedure I really

> would like to

> know about it.

>

> Tom U

>

>

>

>

> > > From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> > > Subject: Quest Diagnostics

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:05 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Why is Quest Diagnostics telling me

> it is going

> > > to take as much as 21

> > >

> > > days to get the E2, Total and Free T portions of

> my initial

> > > tests back

> > >

> > > as recommended by Dr. .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Estradiol (E2), I would think with as much of an

> importance

> > > it has to

> > >

> > > women that labs would be prepared for something

> less than a

> > > 21 day

> > >

> > > lead time.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Are there any alternatives? I really want to

> find some

> > > form of meter

> > >

> > > or equipment to track testosterone free/total and

> E2, which

> > > seem to be

> > >

> > > the sticking points in getting my labs back.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > INITIAL LABWORK

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > •Total Testosterone

> > >

> > > •Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA " Free

> and Loosely

> > > Bound " )

> > >

> > > •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is

> unavailable)

> > >

> > > •DHT

> > >

> > > •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method,

> or

> > > " sensitive " assay for males)

> > >

> > > •LH

> > >

> > > •FSH

> > >

> > > •Prolactin

> > >

> > > •Cortisol

> > >

> > > •Thyroid Panel

> > >

> > > •CBC

> > >

> > > •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> > >

> > > •Lipid Profile

> > >

> > > •PSA (if over 40)

> > >

> > > •IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FOLLOW-UP LABS

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Two weeks after initiating a transdermal, or five

> weeks

> > > after the

> > >

> > > first IM injection:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > •Total Testosterone

> > >

> > > •Bioavailable Testosterone

> > >

> > > •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is

> still

> > > unavailable)

> > >

> > > •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method,

> or

> > > " sensitive " assay for males)

> > >

> > > •DHT (especially if patient is using a

> transdermal

> > > delivery system)

> > >

> > > •FSH (3rd Generation†" ultrasens

> itive assay this time)

> > >

> > > •CBC

> > >

> > > •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> > >

> > > •Lipid Profile

> > >

> > > •PSA (for more senior patients)

> > >

> > > •IGF-1 (if GH Therapy has been initiated

> already)

> > >

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In addition to the iron issue I have had at least 6 concussions due to

football, wrestling or fighting. So who knows all I know is the levels

are down and I am tired of being tired.

> > > > From: tomubl <ubl@>

> > > > Subject: Quest Diagnostics

> > > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:05 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Why is Quest Diagnostics telling me

> > it is going

> > > > to take as much as 21

> > > >

> > > > days to get the E2, Total and Free T portions of

> > my initial

> > > > tests back

> > > >

> > > > as recommended by Dr. .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Estradiol (E2), I would think with as much of an

> > importance

> > > > it has to

> > > >

> > > > women that labs would be prepared for something

> > less than a

> > > > 21 day

> > > >

> > > > lead time.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Are there any alternatives? I really want to

> > find some

> > > > form of meter

> > > >

> > > > or equipment to track testosterone free/total and

> > E2, which

> > > > seem to be

> > > >

> > > > the sticking points in getting my labs back.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > INITIAL LABWORK

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > •Total Testosterone

> > > >

> > > > •Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA " Free

> > and Loosely

> > > > Bound " )

> > > >

> > > > •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is

> > unavailable)

> > > >

> > > > •DHT

> > > >

> > > > •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method,

> > or

> > > > " sensitive " assay for males)

> > > >

> > > > •LH

> > > >

> > > > •FSH

> > > >

> > > > •Prolactin

> > > >

> > > > •Cortisol

> > > >

> > > > •Thyroid Panel

> > > >

> > > > •CBC

> > > >

> > > > •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> > > >

> > > > •Lipid Profile

> > > >

> > > > •PSA (if over 40)

> > > >

> > > > •IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > FOLLOW-UP LABS

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Two weeks after initiating a transdermal, or five

> > weeks

> > > > after the

> > > >

> > > > first IM injection:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > •Total Testosterone

> > > >

> > > > •Bioavailable Testosterone

> > > >

> > > > •Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is

> > still

> > > > unavailable)

> > > >

> > > > •Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method,

> > or

> > > > " sensitive " assay for males)

> > > >

> > > > •DHT (especially if patient is using a

> > transdermal

> > > > delivery system)

> > > >

> > > > •FSH (3rd Generation†" ultrasens

> > itive assay this time)

> > > >

> > > > •CBC

> > > >

> > > > •Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

> > > >

> > > > •Lipid Profile

> > > >

> > > > •PSA (for more senior patients)

> > > >

> > > > •IGF-1 (if GH Therapy has been initiated

> > already)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > >

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I am still fighting the fight but I have come a long way with my heath I just

kept at reading on web and getting my Dr. to run tests. When I found out my

pituitary was bad after being told I am primary and only treating low T. I now

treat all the low and low normal levels after all if your near the bottom end of

a labs range this means your in the bottom % of all the people tested for this

range and they are the real sick ones.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: tomubl <ubl@...>

> Subject: Re: Quest Diagnostics

>

> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:51 PM

> In addition to the iron issue I have had at least 6

> concussions due to

> football, wrestling or fighting. So who knows all I know is

> the levels

> are down and I am tired of being tired.

>

>

> > > > > From: tomubl <ubl@>

> > > > > Subject: Quest

> Diagnostics

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:05

> PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Why is Quest Diagnostics

> telling me

> > > it is going

> > > > > to take as much as 21

> > > > >

> > > > > days to get the E2, Total and Free T

> portions of

> > > my initial

> > > > > tests back

> > > > >

> > > > > as recommended by Dr. .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Estradiol (E2), I would think with as

> much of an

> > > importance

> > > > > it has to

> > > > >

> > > > > women that labs would be prepared for

> something

> > > less than a

> > > > > 21 day

> > > > >

> > > > > lead time.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Are there any alternatives? I really

> want to

> > > find some

> > > > > form of meter

> > > > >

> > > > > or equipment to track testosterone

> free/total and

> > > E2, which

> > > > > seem to be

> > > > >

> > > > > the sticking points in getting my labs

> back.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > INITIAL LABWORK

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > •Total Testosterone

> > > > >

> > > > > •Bioavailable

> Testosterone (AKA " Free

> > > and Loosely

> > > > > Bound " )

> > > > >

> > > > > •Free Testosterone (if

> Bioavailable T is

> > > unavailable)

> > > > >

> > > > > •DHT

> > > > >

> > > > > •Estradiol (specify the

> Extraction Method,

> > > or

> > > > > " sensitive " assay for males)

> > > > >

> > > > > •LH

> > > > >

> > > > > •FSH

> > > > >

> > > > > •Prolactin

> > > > >

> > > > > •Cortisol

> > > > >

> > > > > •Thyroid Panel

> > > > >

> > > > > •CBC

> > > > >

> > > > > •Comprehensive Metabolic

> Panel

> > > > >

> > > > > •Lipid Profile

> > > > >

> > > > > •PSA (if over 40)

> > > > >

> > > > > •IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is

> being considered)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > FOLLOW-UP LABS

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Two weeks after initiating a

> transdermal, or five

> > > weeks

> > > > > after the

> > > > >

> > > > > first IM injection:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > •Total Testosterone

> > > > >

> > > > > •Bioavailable

> Testosterone

> > > > >

> > > > > •Free Testosterone (if

> Bioavailable T is

> > > still

> > > > > unavailable)

> > > > >

> > > > > •Estradiol (specify the

> Extraction Method,

> > > or

> > > > > " sensitive " assay for males)

> > > > >

> > > > > •DHT (especially if

> patient is using a

> > > transdermal

> > > > > delivery system)

> > > > >

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