Re: autologous Bone Marrow Transplant

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

It's difficult for me when I hear about " cancer " in general,

even " lymphoma " in general, to know just what to say, since the kind of

cancer can make a real difference. For instance, if this young man was

one of those rare male individuals who is diagnosed with breast cancer,

I would say under no circumstances should he even begin to consider a

bone marrow transplant because it has been shown that BMT's for breast

cancer are of no therapeutic value.

I am going to assume, in this case, that the person in question is

diagnosed with lymphoma. He is still something of a rarity, as lymphoma

affects more women than men, and generally people much older than their

young twenties. I was 39 when I was diagnosed with low-grade lymphoma,

and that was actually considered young.

Here is my feeling about the matter, and I speak from having known

several people who endured BMT's, and from having been " offered " such a

procedure twice by doctors, and having turned down those offers, and

having lived 8-10 years past the time official mainstream statistics

say I should have been dead:

If I had no other evidence to go on but what you have given thus far, I

would say " AVOID the BMT at nearly ANY cost. " An official mainstream

euphemism for a BMT or a SCT is " salvage treatment. " (!!!) Yes, medical

personnel, oncologists and others, routinely use, or at least used to

use, the phrases " salvage treatment " and " bone marrow transplant "

interchangeably!

Since our person in question is only 22 years old, and since, from the

feeling I get from reading his message to you, it sounds as if he is

still relatively quite healthy, WHAT NEED HAS HE for " salvage

treatment " ?!

The several people I knew who had BMT's all said, " If I knew what it

was going to be like, I NEVER would have agreed to it! " And at least 1,

if not 2 out of the 3 or 4 of them, DIED not terribly long after the

BMT. It is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PROCEDURE, in which EVERY LAST BIT of

the person's bone marrow is DESTROYED by TREMENDOUSLY HIGH levels of

chemotherapy and radiation. A person who has been through a BMT can

undoubtedly be compared to someone who has been mustard-gassed and who

has survived a nuclear bomb blast, only they will have survived such in

a " supportive " hospital setting. Such a person will unavoidably have

had his heart and other organs significantly weakened, and if he dies

prematurely from a heart attack, his death certificate will not

say " Death from Bone Marrow Transplant, " it will say " Death from

Myocardial Infarction. "

I have survived 8-10 years out from when low-grade lymphoma

clients " officially " die BECAUSE I have UNDERTREATED with mainstream

treatment. I have ONLY used it when NOTHING I was doing alternatively

was working anymore, and when I felt I had run out of time to try

anything new alternatively. And even then, I have gone with the LEAST

possibly harmful treatment I could. It took me 17 YEARS before I

finally decided to get low-grade radiation to my neck, where tumors had

consistently grown back, and I did it because I was finally convinced

the radiation could be delivered without it causing me significant,

permanent injury. Looking back, months later after having had the

radiation, I can say it was both successful and that it has not caused

significant injury.

Overtreating lymphoma is the very WORST way to treat it. I read, a year

or so ago, a sad message from a man who had recently lost his wife to

lymphoma. He wrote, " Every time we hit that dragon with something

(mainstream), it hit back ten times harder. " So what was the answer?

STOP HITTING THE DRAGON!!! I am fairly well convinced that had I not

gotten myself involved in very high stress work in early 2001, that I

would not have experienced a regrowth of the tumor in my neck, that the

alternative stuff I was doing would have continued to keep me in

remission.

I have met 2 other people in my life who are also about 18 years out

from being diagnosed with low-grade lymphoma, and they have each

followed the same path I have---a regimen of alternative treatment,

with, if and when necessary, the LEAST POSSIBLE, LEAST HARMFUL form of

mainstream treatment so as to get the cancer back under control so that

the alternative treatment regimen will work again.

The WORST POSSIBLE WAY I have seen to treat low-grade lymphoma is to

overtreat it/aggressively treat it with mainstream treatment. If this

young man would like to contact me privately to talk some more about

the kinds of things I have done over the years, please feel free to

give him my email address, .

Personally, I think he should switch oncologists, but quick. He is with

a doctor who is too stupid to know that lymphoma does indeed " hit back "

when struck with aggressive treatment.

Best wishes,

Elliot

>I got an email from a young man trying to make a difficult decision

> about a Bone Marrow Transplant using his own stem cells. Has anyone been

through this that can advise him?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again, .

If you would, please also tell your young man the following:

Again speaking as someone who has LIVED in very good health for 18

years subsequent to being diagnosed with low-grade lymphmoa, one of the

VERY BEST pieces of advice ANYONE has EVER given me about ANYTHING, was

when the oncology nurse with whom I just happened to be taking an adult

college education class, looked me in the eye and said:

" Elliot, if YOU don't take control of YOUR OWN treatment, the doctors

will turn you into a PIECE OF MEAT. "

I can't think of something much more capable of turning a generally

healthy 22-year-old man into a piece of meat than a bone marrow

transplant/ " salvage treatment. " Here is a link where your friend can

see for himself how the mainstream cavalierly calls BMT " salvage

treatment " : http://tinyurl.com/2n2qmo

There was an English professor who wrote a book not long ago about how

his sensitivity to the type of language used by mainstream cancer

doctors alerted him to the danger he was headed into. He withdrew

himself from their clutches and cured himself using alternative

treatment.

This young man, due, yes, to his very youthfulness, as the doctor is

telling him, may well appear to respond " favorably " to the BMT. He very

well may reach that coveted " 5-year survival " time subsequent to the

BMT. But WHY, if there is ANYTHING ELSE he can possibly do, should he

allow his entire immune system to be wiped out, and to have his brain

and all his other organs terribly ravaged by the highest possible doses

of chemotherapy and radiation? It's insanity.

Other questions I almost forgot are:

WHY did the chemotherapy fail?

WHAT has chemotherapy done to the nature of the lymphoma? I am very

aware that lymphoma very quickly becomes multi-drug resistant(one of

the ways it " hits back.)

WHAT are the chances the BMT won't even accomplish what the misinformed

oncologist supposes it will? Only recently I have heard of a woman who

suffered through a BMT and who, WELL before 5 years was up, discovered

another tumor in her body---one that had apparently not been shrunk at

all by the BMT.

WHAT research has this young man done on the long-term effects of

getting a BMT? Surely his doctor hasn't told him about these, and he

may need to do some digging to find them. Bruce Guilmette was well

aware of what can happen down the road subsequent to a BMT---organ

failure, " chemo-brain, " severe neuropathy, etc, etc.

All for now,

Elliot

> " Been busy with life and work and also the decision wether to go for BMT or

not..The reason i am believing in my doctor is because it was chemotherapy

which worked on me. My pet scan results were clear

after chemo. I started BP after finishing my chemo. Now he is telling me to go

for BMT because he thinks that as chemo worked well, so will BMT as my age is

just 22. Would love to have your suggestion. "

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[Guest guest]

Elliot wrote:

> If I had no other evidence to go on but what you have given thus far, I

> would say " AVOID the BMT at nearly ANY cost. " An official mainstream

> euphemism for a BMT or a SCT is " salvage treatment. " (!!!) Yes, medical

> personnel, oncologists and others, routinely use, or at least used to

> use, the phrases " salvage treatment " and " bone marrow transplant "

> interchangeably!

>

Wow Elliott, I had a BMT/SCT 8 years ago for breast cancer and afterward they

discovered the lack of therapeutic value. But please ... reading this post made

me feel like there's no hope for me BECAUSE I did all that to myself, before I

knew better.

xxoo

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

I apologize for making it sound as if one who has had a BMT has no

hope. That is not necessarily the case, and it is much more not

necessarily the case for you because you have gotten wise to the

mainstream and are learning all you can about how best to manage your

own health and well-being. You might even do better, in the long run,

than someone who has never had a BMT, but who never gets wise---who

eats the SAD all her life, who is a couch potato and who depends on

pharmaceutical drugs to help her along as she becomes sicker and

sicker through the years.

Let's look at the hypothetical case of someone who gets a BMT and who

remains in the grasp of the mainstream doctors. If she relapses, what

is left for her to do? Another BMT? There are people who get multiple

BMT's, though I can't understand how they can bring themselves to do

so. I know of one person, a pianist, who had 2 BMT's, and was STILL

able to play the piano well. Given the probability of serious

neuropathy from even 1 BMT's I don't understand that. But then he

went in for his THIRD BMT, and subsequent to that, the doctors

ACTUALLY COMMENTED that they " could not understand why he had so many

things wrong with him " when they had finished. To the best of my

knowledge, he never left the hospital after BMT #3. He died there

from multo-multo-extremay-multo complications.

Okay, still looking at the case of a woman who has had 1 BMT and who

does not leave the mainstream. Let's say she relapses and she is not,

thank her stars and garters, a candidate for a second transplant.

What is open to her in the mainstream? Most likely some " experimental

Phase I, II or III " treatment, or some less well-known drug her

oncologist knows about. She will get something like that, and she

will not have become aware of the fact that cancer is a degenerative

dis-ease requiring re-generative health measures. She'll almost

certainly just hobble along, having ups and downs on a generally

downward drift, and, in a decade or less, she'll be dead.

But YOU are not like her at all, , because YOU have the

TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE of starting and continuing the process of making

yourself aware of the many, many different things you can do to

improve and to maintain your health! I know you are doing such

things, as I have read many of your messages.

You might want to keep a watch on your heart, have it checked

periodically with an EKG maybe(I am no doctor)and to maintain

supplementation with CoQ10, Magnesium, Alphalypoic Acid, L-Carnitine

and Vitamin C. Those will have far broader benefits than just

nourishing your heart muscle. You might get the book " Eradicating

Heart Disease " By Matthia Rath, MD. It's a great read. From reading

his book I got the analogy of how putting a pace-maker into the chest

of the average person with a sick heart is like trying to kick an

exhausted man up a hill.

Finally, I can tell you, , that I have also suffered

significant damage at the hands of an ignorant oncologist, who

administered to me 22 full-body CT Scans before I became aware of the

fact that that equals more radiation than a person ought to get in 3

or 4 lifetimes. I am doing similarly to what I have suggested to you:

taking the best care of my health that I can, building my body and my

immune system, taking supplements and doing all the other stuff I can

to keep myself in good condition. I expect to live out a normal

lifespan, and you should take the same attitude.

Best wishes and best of health to you,

Elliot

Wow Elliott, I had a BMT/SCT 8 years ago for breast cancer and

afterward they discovered the lack of therapeutic value. But

please ... reading this post made me feel like there's no hope for me

BECAUSE I did all that to myself, before I knew better.

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