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From what I know about this you can't test progesterone levels in a saliva test

they are not actuate for testing sex hormones so if you need to know what your

levels are do a blood test. But you can raise this hormone but don't do this

doing progesterone cream it can cause feminization.

You can take pregnenolone supplements or cream to bring them up is blood labs

show them to be low. I have been on TRT and do Test shots and HCG shots so I

need to check my pregnenolone levels and labs for men testing this are always

low so we check progesterone if it's high we know the Pregnenolone will be high

HCG drives this up. My labs on TRT never come back to low or to high on

progesterone.

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> From: Steve <dudescholar4@...>

> Subject: TRT suppression of testicular progesterone production

>

> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 2:36 PM

> I recently had a saliva test that indicated low

> Progesterone. In doing

> some research, I found out that Testosterone replacement

> therapy while

> suppressing natural testosterone production, also

> suppresses

> progesterone production in the testicles. Additionally,

> while

> Pregnenolone supplementation can increase Progesterone,

> it's unclear how

> effective this is.

>

> In all the time I've been on TRT, not once has

> Progesterone been tested.

> I have been tested for DHEAs regularly and

> supplementation with 100

> mg/day is needed to get close to the middle of the lab

> reference range

> and I'm still not into the optimum range for DHEAs as

> recommend by LEF.

> I'd like to get my progesterone levels up to closer

> to mid range if

> not the optimum range, whatever that happens to be.

>

> Has anyone here dealt with this problem, taken pregnenolone

> to resolve

> this, or used progesterone cream, or perhaps some other

> method to raise

> progesterone levels?

>

> It's difficult to find information on free verses total

> progesterone, so

> I'm looking at just increasing total (bound+free).

>

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It I feel is not a problem in men as long as your in range. Here is a cut and

paste on what Dr. says about it.

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There is not one valid study that proves men should take PROG. And many which

prove he should not.

Simple, irrefutable facts:

PROG elevates SHBG

Suppresses the HPTA

Causes gynocomastia

Causes impotence

....all feminizing features of a hormone.

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> From: Stephan Pochet <spochet@...>

> Subject: Re: TRT suppression of testicular progesterone

production

>

> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:11 PM

> How important is progesterone? I have never been tested for

> it either. What does it do?

>

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