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Hi all,

Like Bruce, I have AIH, as diagnosed at Mayo Clinic. My case is so mild that

I do not take any medications at all. I just get monitored every few years.

Yet, there is always a concern that it could flare .... Mayo folks believe

that a mild case almost always stays mild and a very fast action disease is

hardest to get to remission. The most critical point is the level of damage

at discovery .... just how bad has the liver been damanaged.

Bruce, you mentioned your " GI doctor " .....is he a Chineese herbalist or a

gastro doctor. Have not heard of any US doctors advocate herbs as apparently

your doctor does.

Just another pitch for the PBCers Conference in Las Vegas .......Like to meet

to you all there.

Rick (AIH,98)

In a message dated 3/19/01 2:29:46 AM Pacific Standard Time,

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<< Hi folks.

I was recently diagnosed with AIH. I had readings of around 150 but

a biopsy showed almost no damage. My doctor was not ready to

prescribe prednizone and imuran at this point.

I've been taking some chinese herbal remedies for a couple weeks now.

I'm going to take some more labs next week and will report back on

what happens.

I'm currently taking 12 capsules a day.

Six of them are for a combination of herbs that are designed to

restore proper immune system regulation (smilac glabia, poria cocos,

and discorea)

The balance are some herbs which promote liver cell growth and

protection (elclipta, ganadama, and green tea)

I've also taken some schizandra and dandelion root.

None of these herbs has had any side effects that I'm aware of.

The GI doctor that presribed them mentioned his last four patients

achieved complete remission within 1 year.

They aren't cheap at about $100 month but thats nothing if they work.

Later

Bruce

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Not just children with discipline problems- ALL our kids could lose- Read

the report on from the President's Commission on Special Education- and there

are some troubling things. The big push is for paperwork reduction- which

has merit- as long as the rights of our children are not reduced with it.

There are some good things in the report- but we need to be watchful. I

spent Friday morning with our Senator's aide around this issue. With the

changing of the guard, we could be in for a real fight.

M.

In a message dated 1/21/03 6:19:01 PM, writes:

<< I would urge anyone who feels passionately about LRE and any other

connection

to IDEA to contact their legislators. IDEA is up for re-authorization and

parents need to voice their concerns! Especially any parents with children

who havebehavior issues ... the first part of IDEA being targeted for change

is discipline protections. Children with behavior and discipline issues

stand to lose some very important protections!

Cheryl in VA >>

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In a message dated 1/21/2003 10:53:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

muracat@... writes:

> The big push is for paperwork reduction- which

> has merit- as long as the rights of our children are not reduced with it.

Three year IEPS ..... now there's a hot topic! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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Well Cheryl, lol, sometimes I think it might work where I am. It seems we are

working on the same goals to different degrees for the past 3 years. Before

anyone gets up in arms, I do review it carefully and placement and services have

been rough the past year and 1/2. I actually think we are mastering a few

educational goals this year that were properly written for the first time.

mom to Bridget 9 ds in SC

> The big push is for paperwork reduction- which

> has merit- as long as the rights of our children are not reduced with it.

Three year IEPS ..... now there's a hot topic! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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Limiting paperwork is just another way of saying limited accountability IMHO.

Who will be responsible for implementation and making sure IEPs are

implemented?? Why we parents of course AS USUAL.

Elaine

Re: Digest Number 1511

Not just children with discipline problems- ALL our kids could lose- Read

the report on from the President's Commission on Special Education- and there

are some troubling things. The big push is for paperwork reduction- which

has merit- as long as the rights of our children are not reduced with it.

There are some good things in the report- but we need to be watchful. I

spent Friday morning with our Senator's aide around this issue. With the

changing of the guard, we could be in for a real fight.

M.

In a message dated 1/21/03 6:19:01 PM, writes:

<< I would urge anyone who feels passionately about LRE and any other

connection

to IDEA to contact their legislators. IDEA is up for re-authorization and

parents need to voice their concerns! Especially any parents with children

who havebehavior issues ... the first part of IDEA being targeted for change

is discipline protections. Children with behavior and discipline issues

stand to lose some very important protections!

Cheryl in VA >>

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Recently I got a phone number (800) from someone on the board for buying

all the ingredients needed to do the liver/kidney cleanse. I've LOST that

phone number. Does anyone out there have it they can resend to me? Also,

which is better (as well as cheaper) buying from clarkia.com or using the

(800) phone number and ordering that way? I am needing to do all of these

cleanses but money is quite an issue.

Thanks,

De

On 11 Jun 2003 08:36:57 -0000 gallstones writes:

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In a message dated 10/11/03 11:11:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> Subject: herbs for essiac

>

>

Again, YES, I do have experience with the herb tea. I've been brewing it and

taking it for more than ten years.

Using the now questionably accurante formula that Glum published that

includes the turkey rhubarb root. He claims to have paid $120,000.00 for that

formula. Someone on this list states that this formula is inaccurate and that

BLOODROOT should be used in place of the TURKEY RHUBARB root.

I've been using wildcrafted herbs of high quality which I augment with

burdock and sheep sorrel and slippery elm that I hand harvest on my farm in

Michigan, USA. On occasion, I also augment with other herbs that seem approriate

to

the occasion and in keeping with the spirit of the Native American recipe that

Rene Cassie acquired....

It is a wonderful tonic.

I can only speak of my experience. I come to herbal use and teachings

cuturally, so I've been exposed to a lot of this stuff since early childhood.

MJH

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In a message dated 10/11/03 11:11:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> And yes, the story about the

> secondary forumla with the rhubarb in it is true. The real formula

> never had rhubarb in it. I mean, come on, this tea comes from the guy

>

Then, this guy..... is it Glum to whom you refer earlier... has

perpetuated a fraud by publicizing and promotiing the recipe with the turkey

rhubarb

in it and also selling that herb blend himself along with preparation

instructions?

MJH

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MJH - Thanks for you input and sharing your knowledge on the subject. I

have a question you might be able to answer. Could not both bloodroot

and turkey rhubarb root be put in the formula since this seems to be the

crux of the disagreement (which was in the original formula)? Or do

they interact adversely when used at the same time?

Peggy

foxhillers@... wrote:

> Using the now questionably accurante formula that Glum published

> that

> includes the turkey rhubarb root. He claims to have paid $120,000.00

> for that

> formula. Someone on this list states that this formula is inaccurate

> and that

> BLOODROOT should be used in place of the TURKEY RHUBARB root.

>

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> MJH - Thanks for you input and sharing your knowledge on the

subject. I

> have a question you might be able to answer. Could not both

bloodroot

> and turkey rhubarb root be put in the formula since this seems to

be the

> crux of the disagreement (which was in the original formula)? Or do

> they interact adversely when used at the same time?

>

> Peggy

>

Hiya Peggy and all

I don't see a reason why Turkey rhubarb ROOT could not be

included, but please read the info I posted on BLOODROOT (an

endangered species in the USA) very carefully and decide for yourself.

As I mentioned in another post, I frequently add additional herbs

to the brew as seem appropriate at the time. These I forage myself

and use the plant parts that are NOT toxic. Frequently, I augment

with stinging nettles (green herb, flowers and seed, no roots) and

dandelion (all parts: green herb, roots, flowers and seed).

Works for us

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At 242lbs on the new flex points weight watchers plan you would eat 28

points plus 5 flex per day. The flex points can be rolled over till the end

of the week and then you loose them. You also get exercise points.

Basically weight watchers is 50 calories per point but the points can go up

if lots of fat or down for 4g or more of fiber. I do count weight watchers

points and that works for me. It is up to you. I started on

but hated having to only eat so much of one food group making it too

ridged and then I ended up not eating enough. I then used fit day to count

calories and did weight watchers at the same time to see which I preferred

and ended up doing weight watcher but I can not remember why I chose it.

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