Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Carl, The high content of cysteine and cystine in the cottage cheese in the FSO/CC protocol encourages the growth of colon cancer. See below. This isn't all bad, but it is a poorly thought-out protocol. It is probably smarter to conjugate the FSO and perhaps chemically complex with selenium much the same way Klaus Tilly processed FSO with sulphur some 400 years ago. I had been asked to review a Russian patent application on this updated process and the numbers looked good. You can safely kick up an IPT protocol that is specific for colon cancer. You would use full dose dipyridamole along with low dose AZT and antimetabolites 5FU or MTX. Another strategy is Mit C, valproic acid, and parthenolide. The strategies can be made completely devoid of side effects. Another strategy is IL-2 with ranitadine. You can immediately start on cimetidine (Tagamet) to prevent further mets while making decisions. I would not trust surgery. You have many surgical adhesions from before so it will be very difficult to locate and identify diseased tissue. The recovery period seems to encourage the growth of cancer cells left behind. There are many alternative protocols that you can use but I can't go into them here. It would take days to sort them out and come to a treatment decision. (see below) Cell Prolif 2002 Apr;35(2):117-29 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?http://www.blackwell-synergy\ ..com/openurl?genre=article & sid=nlm:pubmed & issn=0960-7722 & date=2002 & volume=35 & iss\ ue=2 & spage=117> Click here to read Exogenous cysteine and cystine promote cell proliferation in CaCo-2 cells. Noda T, Iwakiri R, Fujimoto K, Rhoads CA, Aw TY. Department of Molecular and Cellular Physiology, Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, LA 71130-3932, USA. Previous studies have shown that intracellular glutathione, a ubiquitous intracellular thiol, is related to cell proliferation and that cysteine or its disulphide form, cystine, also induces cell proliferation. Cysteine is a thiol containing amino acid and a rate-limiting precursor of glutathione. Therefore, it is still unresolved as to whether the proliferative effect of cysteine or cystine is entirely mediated by a change in the intracellular glutathione status. The objective of this study was to delineate the relationship among cysteine/cystine (thereafter referred to as cyst(e)ine), intracellular glutathione and cell proliferation in the human colon cancer CaCo-2 cell line. CaCo-2 cells were cultured in cyst(e)ine-free Dulbecco's Modified Eagle Medium without serum, and treated with 200 microm cysteine and/or 200-400 microm cystine for 24 h. In the presence of DL-buthionine-[s, R]-sulfoximine (BSO), a glutathione synthesis inhibitor, exogenously administered cyst(e)ine did not change the intracellular glutathione content, but increased the intracellular cysteine as well as cystine level. Addition of exogenous cyst(e)ine following 5 mm BSO treatment significantly increased cell proliferation as measured by 3H-thymidine incorporation and protein content. Cell cycle analyses revealed that cyst(e)ine promoted cell progression from the G1 phase to the S phase. Correspondingly, cyst(e)ine treatment induced expression of cyclin D1 and phosphorylation of retinoblastoma protein (Rb). In conclusion, these data indicate that both cysteine and cystine have proliferative effects in CaCo-2 cells independent of an increase in intracellular glutathione. Induction of cyclin D1, phosphorylation of Rb, and subsequent facilitation of G1-to-S phase transition were involved in the proliferative effect of exogenous cyst(e)ine. At 04:40 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote: >, >I'm glad to hear that your are progressing positively in your >fight. I posted the following on the list but >haven't gotten ant responses. If you have a moment to read this post >and respond with your take on my current situation I'd be honored. >Thanks so much > >Carl in Monroe > > > > >Hello everyone. I've been a " lurker " for several months. I'm a 55 >year old male. I was diagnosed with stage 4 rectal cancer with mets >to my liver in May of '08. Tumor was large enough to prevent a >colonoscopy from being performed. I established a relationship with >a gastroenterologist and oncologist at this time. On 6/18/08 I was >fitted with a mediport and colostomy bag. I underwent chemo and >radiation which ended approx Thanksgiving weekend of '08. On 2/18/09 >I underwent major surgery for removal of the main rectal tumor and >piece of my liver. Surgery took over 10 hours. Since surgery, I make >visits to my oncologist for a port flush and blood test. My CAS >level has been going up (approx 35 now). Doctor sent me for PET scan >which showed activity at the original rectal site. Thank God, the >rest of my body is " clean " . My doctor feels that during the surgery, >the tumor was not completely removed. He believes that this is a > " local " problem and advises me to have surgery for removal. I have >faith in the doctor but I am looking for additional input from >people that may have gone down this road in the past. I have been >doing the FOCC for a few months. Other than this issue, I am in very >good health. Thanks for the responses. > >Carl in Monroe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 : Thank you very for taking the time to respond to my letter. I was told that mixing the flax oil with cottage cheese was necessary so that the flax oil becomes water soluble for better cell absorption. How would I substitute selenium? How do I go about taking Tagamet? What type of dosage? How could I find the many alternative protocols that you mention? Again, thank you very much for taking the time to respond. Carl From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of VGammill Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:35 AM Carl Cc: Subject: [ ] colon cancer recurrence Carl, The high content of cysteine and cystine in the cottage cheese in the FSO/CC protocol encourages the growth of colon cancer. See below. This isn't all bad, but it is a poorly thought-out protocol. It is probably smarter to conjugate the FSO and perhaps chemically complex with selenium much the same way Klaus Tilly processed FSO with sulphur some 400 years ago. I had been asked to review a Russian patent application on this updated process and the numbers looked good. You can safely kick up an IPT protocol that is specific for colon cancer. You would use full dose dipyridamole along with low dose AZT and antimetabolites 5FU or MTX. Another strategy is Mit C, valproic acid, and parthenolide. The strategies can be made completely devoid of side effects. Another strategy is IL-2 with ranitadine. You can immediately start on cimetidine (Tagamet) to prevent further mets while making decisions. I would not trust surgery. You have many surgical adhesions from before so it will be very difficult to locate and identify diseased tissue. The recovery period seems to encourage the growth of cancer cells left behind. There are many alternative protocols that you can use but I can't go into them here. It would take days to sort them out and come to a treatment decision. (see below) Cell Prolif 2002 Apr;35(2):117-29 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?http://www.blackwell-syn ergy.com/openurl?genre=article <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?http://www.blackwell-syn ergy.com/openurl?genre=article & sid=nlm:pubmed & issn=0960-7722 & date=2002 & volum e=35 & issue=2 & spage=117> & sid=nlm:pubmed & issn=0960-7722 & date=2002 & volume=35 & issue=2 & spage=117> Click here to read Exogenous cysteine and cystine promote cell proliferation in CaCo-2 cells. Noda T, Iwakiri R, Fujimoto K, Rhoads CA, Aw TY. Department of Molecular and Cellular Physiology, Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, LA 71130-3932, USA. Previous studies have shown that intracellular glutathione, a ubiquitous intracellular thiol, is related to cell proliferation and that cysteine or its disulphide form, cystine, also induces cell proliferation. Cysteine is a thiol containing amino acid and a rate-limiting precursor of glutathione. Therefore, it is still unresolved as to whether the proliferative effect of cysteine or cystine is entirely mediated by a change in the intracellular glutathione status. The objective of this study was to delineate the relationship among cysteine/cystine (thereafter referred to as cyst(e)ine), intracellular glutathione and cell proliferation in the human colon cancer CaCo-2 cell line. CaCo-2 cells were cultured in cyst(e)ine-free Dulbecco's Modified Eagle Medium without serum, and treated with 200 microm cysteine and/or 200-400 microm cystine for 24 h. In the presence of DL-buthionine-[s, R]-sulfoximine (BSO), a glutathione synthesis inhibitor, exogenously administered cyst(e)ine did not change the intracellular glutathione content, but increased the intracellular cysteine as well as cystine level. Addition of exogenous cyst(e)ine following 5 mm BSO treatment significantly increased cell proliferation as measured by 3H-thymidine incorporation and protein content. Cell cycle analyses revealed that cyst(e)ine promoted cell progression from the G1 phase to the S phase. Correspondingly, cyst(e)ine treatment induced expression of cyclin D1 and phosphorylation of retinoblastoma protein (Rb). In conclusion, these data indicate that both cysteine and cystine have proliferative effects in CaCo-2 cells independent of an increase in intracellular glutathione. Induction of cyclin D1, phosphorylation of Rb, and subsequent facilitation of G1-to-S phase transition were involved in the proliferative effect of exogenous cyst(e)ine. At 04:40 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote: >, >I'm glad to hear that your are progressing positively in your >fight. I posted the following on the list but >haven't gotten ant responses. If you have a moment to read this post >and respond with your take on my current situation I'd be honored. >Thanks so much > >Carl in Monroe > > > > >Hello everyone. I've been a " lurker " for several months. I'm a 55 >year old male. I was diagnosed with stage 4 rectal cancer with mets >to my liver in May of '08. Tumor was large enough to prevent a >colonoscopy from being performed. I established a relationship with >a gastroenterologist and oncologist at this time. On 6/18/08 I was >fitted with a mediport and colostomy bag. I underwent chemo and >radiation which ended approx Thanksgiving weekend of '08. On 2/18/09 >I underwent major surgery for removal of the main rectal tumor and >piece of my liver. Surgery took over 10 hours. Since surgery, I make >visits to my oncologist for a port flush and blood test. My CAS >level has been going up (approx 35 now). Doctor sent me for PET scan >which showed activity at the original rectal site. Thank God, the >rest of my body is " clean " . My doctor feels that during the surgery, >the tumor was not completely removed. He believes that this is a > " local " problem and advises me to have surgery for removal. I have >faith in the doctor but I am looking for additional input from >people that may have gone down this road in the past. I have been >doing the FOCC for a few months. Other than this issue, I am in very >good health. Thanks for the responses. > >Carl in Monroe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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