Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Thanks Rich, Yes I am still having trouble breathing and I have not got any exercise in months this does not help eather. Shit putting on weight and no exercise is not helping and I am following Weight Watchers program. I guess I was pulling at straws here you would think thick blood would make breathing labored but it does not look like it. I feel some thing is wrong casuing me to get sick like this every winter. Did a morning Cortisol test and it came back at 9 range for am is 7.0 to 25 and this is a range made from testing sick people. I should have been up over 20 found all this out trying to get my wife's Thyroid treated with the right kind of Dr. she has been sick with this for 15 yrs. Goes to work comes home eats and falls to sleep. She is not getting the Armour into her cells because her Ferritin and Cortisol are so low the meds can't get into her cells. I got all this at this site a great place and we found a Dr. through this site. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ So now I am waiting to see how her new Dr. treats her if he is good I am going to see him to have my Cortisol checked I have read this is one has Adrenal Fatigue they can get sick all the time like I do with Bronchitis and Sinis Infections that say with me most of the winter. Also my IGF-1 is on the low side and Adrenal Fatigue will do this. It is a shame I was doing so good last yr. I am starting to feel better this med is starting to help me breathe better. Phil Rich <caliconine@...> wrote: Phil- Are you -still- having trouble breathing? That must be one hell of a lung infection. I always thought high hemoglobin levels made it easier, not harder to breathe. The post by Dan Meatheany when he was a runner and suffering from anemia reminded me of some Olympic runners some time back getting caught using " steroids " to increase their lung capacity. Could be wrong but I can't see how you would be having trouble breathing just because your hemoglobin levels are somewhat high (they ain't -that- high; I mean, " 20 " is -high-.) Before I started TRT, I had some " high " hemoglobin levels (I don't have the numbers, sure wish I did, its too far back in time and I was too dumb to ask for them at the time) that were due to smoking and breathing in a lot of chemicals. I guess its the bodies natural reaction to bring back up the amount of oxygen needed by the cells. The Dr acted like it was something expected in my case. He didn't seem too concerned about it, just mentioned it in passing so it must not have been that high. Later when I added TRT to the mix, that brought it up a little too high. I've only had one phlebotomy trying to get hemoglobin/hematocrit in range and I didn't know what to expect, maybe anemia at the worst. Turned out I felt absolutely no change before and after donating a pint. No dizziness, no anemia, and especially no change in breathing. It did bring my numbers down, nothing dramatic. I dunno, you could try it for that but if you think it'll help you breathe easier, I suspect you may be disappointed (just my humble opinion.) What does your Doc say? Rich. > Yes, testosterone replacement therapy definitely does increase the hematocrit level in the blood of some individuals. The result is blood that is more viscous, increasing the probability of dangerous embolisms. Periodic phlebotomies or " blood donation " is one way to deal with this. > > > > > Question on Hematocrit > > Hi everyone > > > Had a question- Does Testosterone increase the amount of Hematocrit in > the body? or is it totally independent of that? > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Phil - have you given any thought to dropping the HCG and going back to old routine if you felt better then? Dan philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Thanks Rich, Yes I am still having trouble breathing and I have not got any exercise in months this does not help eather. Shit putting on weight and no exercise is not helping and I am following Weight Watchers program. I guess I was pulling at straws here you would think thick blood would make breathing labored but it does not look like it. I feel some thing is wrong casuing me to get sick like this every winter. Did a morning Cortisol test and it came back at 9 range for am is 7.0 to 25 and this is a range made from testing sick people. I should have been up over 20 found all this out trying to get my wife's Thyroid treated with the right kind of Dr. she has been sick with this for 15 yrs. Goes to work comes home eats and falls to sleep. She is not getting the Armour into her cells because her Ferritin and Cortisol are so low the meds can't get into her cells. I got all this at this site a great place and we found a Dr. through this site. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ So now I am waiting to see how her new Dr. treats her if he is good I am going to see him to have my Cortisol checked I have read this is one has Adrenal Fatigue they can get sick all the time like I do with Bronchitis and Sinis Infections that say with me most of the winter. Also my IGF-1 is on the low side and Adrenal Fatigue will do this. It is a shame I was doing so good last yr. I am starting to feel better this med is starting to help me breathe better. Phil Rich <caliconine@...> wrote: Phil- Are you -still- having trouble breathing? That must be one hell of a lung infection. I always thought high hemoglobin levels made it easier, not harder to breathe. The post by Dan Meatheany when he was a runner and suffering from anemia reminded me of some Olympic runners some time back getting caught using " steroids " to increase their lung capacity. Could be wrong but I can't see how you would be having trouble breathing just because your hemoglobin levels are somewhat high (they ain't -that- high; I mean, " 20 " is -high-.) Before I started TRT, I had some " high " hemoglobin levels (I don't have the numbers, sure wish I did, its too far back in time and I was too dumb to ask for them at the time) that were due to smoking and breathing in a lot of chemicals. I guess its the bodies natural reaction to bring back up the amount of oxygen needed by the cells. The Dr acted like it was something expected in my case. He didn't seem too concerned about it, just mentioned it in passing so it must not have been that high. Later when I added TRT to the mix, that brought it up a little too high. I've only had one phlebotomy trying to get hemoglobin/hematocrit in range and I didn't know what to expect, maybe anemia at the worst. Turned out I felt absolutely no change before and after donating a pint. No dizziness, no anemia, and especially no change in breathing. It did bring my numbers down, nothing dramatic. I dunno, you could try it for that but if you think it'll help you breathe easier, I suspect you may be disappointed (just my humble opinion.) What does your Doc say? Rich. > Yes, testosterone replacement therapy definitely does increase the hematocrit level in the blood of some individuals. The result is blood that is more viscous, increasing the probability of dangerous embolisms. Periodic phlebotomies or " blood donation " is one way to deal with this. > > > > > Question on Hematocrit > > Hi everyone > > > Had a question- Does Testosterone increase the amount of Hematocrit in > the body? or is it totally independent of that? > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 No no way I feel dam good with this doing shots and HCG I have no more joint and muscle pain. Plus my libido it at it's best ever. What is going on now has nothing to do with my TRT been though this over and over again with my Dr. If I went back to my old TRT I would not be breathing good and would be sore in pain. I go through this shit every winter and last yr. was a bad yr. for this for everyone. Phil Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: Phil - have you given any thought to dropping the HCG and going back to old routine if you felt better then? Dan philip georgian wrote: Thanks Rich, Yes I am still having trouble breathing and I have not got any exercise in months this does not help eather. Shit putting on weight and no exercise is not helping and I am following Weight Watchers program. I guess I was pulling at straws here you would think thick blood would make breathing labored but it does not look like it. I feel some thing is wrong casuing me to get sick like this every winter. Did a morning Cortisol test and it came back at 9 range for am is 7.0 to 25 and this is a range made from testing sick people. I should have been up over 20 found all this out trying to get my wife's Thyroid treated with the right kind of Dr. she has been sick with this for 15 yrs. Goes to work comes home eats and falls to sleep. She is not getting the Armour into her cells because her Ferritin and Cortisol are so low the meds can't get into her cells. I got all this at this site a great place and we found a Dr. through this site. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ So now I am waiting to see how her new Dr. treats her if he is good I am going to see him to have my Cortisol checked I have read this is one has Adrenal Fatigue they can get sick all the time like I do with Bronchitis and Sinis Infections that say with me most of the winter. Also my IGF-1 is on the low side and Adrenal Fatigue will do this. It is a shame I was doing so good last yr. I am starting to feel better this med is starting to help me breathe better. Phil Rich wrote: Phil- Are you -still- having trouble breathing? That must be one hell of a lung infection. I always thought high hemoglobin levels made it easier, not harder to breathe. The post by Dan Meatheany when he was a runner and suffering from anemia reminded me of some Olympic runners some time back getting caught using " steroids " to increase their lung capacity. Could be wrong but I can't see how you would be having trouble breathing just because your hemoglobin levels are somewhat high (they ain't -that- high; I mean, " 20 " is -high-.) Before I started TRT, I had some " high " hemoglobin levels (I don't have the numbers, sure wish I did, its too far back in time and I was too dumb to ask for them at the time) that were due to smoking and breathing in a lot of chemicals. I guess its the bodies natural reaction to bring back up the amount of oxygen needed by the cells. The Dr acted like it was something expected in my case. He didn't seem too concerned about it, just mentioned it in passing so it must not have been that high. Later when I added TRT to the mix, that brought it up a little too high. I've only had one phlebotomy trying to get hemoglobin/hematocrit in range and I didn't know what to expect, maybe anemia at the worst. Turned out I felt absolutely no change before and after donating a pint. No dizziness, no anemia, and especially no change in breathing. It did bring my numbers down, nothing dramatic. I dunno, you could try it for that but if you think it'll help you breathe easier, I suspect you may be disappointed (just my humble opinion.) What does your Doc say? Rich. > Yes, testosterone replacement therapy definitely does increase the hematocrit level in the blood of some individuals. The result is blood that is more viscous, increasing the probability of dangerous embolisms. Periodic phlebotomies or " blood donation " is one way to deal with this. > > > > > Question on Hematocrit > > Hi everyone > > > Had a question- Does Testosterone increase the amount of Hematocrit in > the body? or is it totally independent of that? > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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