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> Yes , I have that book also, I have not tried it yet though!!! But i have

> noticed that alot of the things on the " bad " lists are things that I cannot

>

> tolerate anyway. My moms friend has been eating for her blood type also (she

>

> is A) and she says she feels alot better. its not as limiting as most diets

> and it wouldnt hurt to try it. ( I actually forgot about it so thanks for

> reminding me!!!)

>

Dr. Cabot has some views about eating for certain body types. Check

her books out when you get a chance.

Susie

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Yes , I have that book also, I have not tried it yet though!!! But i have

noticed that alot of the things on the " bad " lists are things that I cannot

tolerate anyway. My moms friend has been eating for her blood type also (she

is A) and she says she feels alot better. its not as limiting as most diets

and it wouldnt hurt to try it. ( I actually forgot about it so thanks for

reminding me!!!)

>

>Has anyone ever read " Eat Right for your Blood Type " by Dr D'Adamo?

>IMO this is the most sensible book on health and eating that I have ever

>read.

>I am type O and he suggets that my type should eat meats, veg and fruit to

>maintain optimal health. Other blood types I think are slightly different,

>they

>can eat a little more dairy and wheat. Strictly a no-no for Type Os

>though.

>His reasoning is that Type O's are direct descendents of the prehistoric

>nomadic hunting tribes that lived mainly on small quantities of meat and

>whatever

>veg/fruits they could forage. According to him this diet is what human

>beings

>have eaten for thousands of years and it was very successful. Because our

>modern diets have only drastically changed very recently, he reckons that

>our

>bodies haven't and cannot adapt to processed foods, sugars, wheats and

>dairy

>products. He also lists which foods should be eaten for optimal health

>and

>that not only act as food but as products that improve your health.

>

>I have been following his suggestions for about 5 months. I honestly truly

>feel so much better. My GB soreness is almost gone, it only twinges during

>a

>certain time of the month but I know it's going to take some time. I have

>yet

>to try a flush. I'm hoping that the stones are gradually diminishing by

>virtue of my diet.

>

>

>

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> Telle -- This may be the cause or one of the causes -- fat cut down

> from what type and amount?

Saturated fats (i.e., fats from cheese, cream, meat). Amount? I don't put

double cream in my coffee...now it's just light cream (1 tbsp). I cut cheese

out of my breakfast (-100 kcal right there). I've been whittling it down a

little at a time. Maybe I whittled too much. *shrug*

Thanks!

Magnus

Bangor, ME

>

> > I'm looking for something that'll help me shed these last 5 lbs of

> > fat. I was doing low-carb for the past 10 weeks and lost 12 lbs the

> > first SIX weeks only. Then, my progress came to a screeching halt

> > (even gained 2 lbs back), and I've been stuck for the past month.

> > Just from reading on the web, I get conflicting information: don't

> > do low carb, don't do low fat, etc.

>

> Telle -- In my experience and have never been wrong?! eat all the

> carbs you want if they are low glycemic, 20 -30% fat from omega six

> mostly which equals fish oil capsules or wild fish, and lean red meat.

> >

> > I'd like to know what's worked for the people in this group. I'm

> > only 5 lbs from my body fat % goal. Yes, I have calipers and have

> > been using them. Even they've shown a slight increase in body fat

> > (about 0.5%) in the past 4 weeks.

>

> Telle -- Your method of measuring fat leads to all types of bias.

> Optimism usually is reflected in an decreased body fat score and vice

> a versa for pessimism -- that is a higher fat score. I believe some

> people store a lot of water under and in the the skin? which is a

> function of carbs eaten recently although the calories are low?

> Hydrostatic usually carries a higher validity rating. IMHO clothes fit

> may be the best indice -- including belt size --though this can have a

> pessimisitic-optimistic bias also.

> >

> > I haven't changed my diet at all (in fact, I actually cut back a bit

> > on the fat 4 weeks ago)

>

> Telle -- This may be the cause or one of the causes -- fat cut down

> from what type and amount?

>

> > and I work out for 1 hour + 6x a week (5 days are interval training

> > for cardio).

>

> Telle--If anything it sounds great though it may be a bit much?

>

> >

> > Any and all advice would be appreciated. I'm getting frustrated here.

>

> Telle -- the bane of all diet programs. One more possibility is that

> weight/(water) loss/gain seems at time to happen in phases and

> plateaus. That is as you loose fat it may be compensated for by water

> increase, until one day the water is lost and weight drops considerably.

>

> Jerry Telle

> Lakewood CO USA

>

>

>

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Hi ,

The only thing I can think of is that your fats are low?? AND your

carbs are high glycemic?? This would suggest that you add your fats

back in (horrors of horrors -- risking a weight gain!!!) and go

strictly low glycemic carbs including no dairy? and grains? and

certainly no sugars including fruit, especially juice???? and give

it several more days. How's your energy? Are you more frustrated from

lack of continuing fat loss or because your calories are to low or

your overtrained -- or some combination of above??

Jerry

Telle

lakewood CO USA

On May 9, 2010, at 5:00 PM, xanadian99 wrote:

> > Telle -- This may be the cause or one of the causes -- fat cut down

> > from what type and amount?

>

> Saturated fats (i.e., fats from cheese, cream, meat). Amount? I

> don't put double cream in my coffee...now it's just light cream (1

> tbsp). I cut cheese out of my breakfast (-100 kcal right there).

> I've been whittling it down a little at a time. Maybe I whittled too

> much. *shrug*

>

> Thanks!

>

> Magnus

> Bangor, ME

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I'm assuming this talk about a 'carb up day' is the same idea as having a cheat

day on a day off from training, where I usually have a high carb and low protein

day, to increase anabolic response the next day when I'm back to training and

eating properly. I used to do this when I was bulking, when obviously having a

lot of carbs wasn't too much of an issue. But I haven't really included a cheat

day for a while on my current cutting cycle. I'm not entirely convinced that the

response would be enough to make up for all those calories. Does any one have

any links to some studies or research on the effectiveness of this stuff, or

just some more insight?

Thanks,

Micah ,

Melbourne, Australia.

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From: " , " <miguel.perez@...>

Supertraining

Sent: Fri, 14 May, 2010 1:12:12 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Speaking of diets...

wrote,

a " carb up " day, one time a week. I've been doing just that.

How long have you been doing it? You might just be overdoing the carb-load day.

It's very easy to get carried away, what with the extreme insulin spike one

gets! You could try loading carbs for only half a day.

Pérez

Reynosa, Mexico

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Supertraining [mailto:Supertraining]

On Behalf Of xanadian99

Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:53 PM

Supertraining

Subject: Re: Speaking of diets...

To everyone, thanks for your help.

Telle: The reason why I've been using heavy cream/cheese is due to a

recommendation I got from a few people as suggestions for sources of calories. I

also get calcium from cheese. I also eat a lot of green veggies. Note that I've

been doing a LOW CARB diet, so " colorful " veggies have been restricted due to

their sweetness (higher carb count). However, I have heard of dairy allergies

(as it were): for example, my last doctor told me that caseins (predominant in

dairy) cause inflammation, which can cause weight issues (or worse, if you're

arthritic, like I am). I gauge my dairy intake, therefore, based off of how

arthritic I feel, and I've been feeling great. Also, I have increased my

" colorful " veggies just in the past week. I also added strawberries, seeing that

they're pretty low in carbs. We'll see what happens.

/Tony: I've heard of " refeeding. " The diet I've been following the closest

was offered by a guy called Mark McManus (musclehack. com). It's his " Total Six

Pack " diet. People CLAIMED it works like a charm. And, the past month

notwithstanding, it's worked for me, too. Just need to get over this hump. The

thing he suggests is a " carb up " day, one time a week. I've been doing just

that. However, maybe I need more to get me out of this rut. *shrug*

: Never heard of " dairy addiction " either. All I've heard that might be

related to that is the link between casein intake and inflammation. I guess it

helps that I'm taking a metric crapload of Omega 3s (fish/flax/nuts/ capsules) .

I'll say this much for keeping carbs around (or under, ideally) 30g...for ME,

anyway, my arthritis is FINALLY under control. So, even if I can't get under 12%

body fat (where I am now), I guess I can say that much.

Age is 37, by the way.

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Micah,

I am not aware of any studies on the practice. In my opinion, you have to be

severely depleted for a full-on carb load not to be counterproductive when

trying to reduce bodyfat using a low-carb diet. As in after multiple training

sessions and several weeks of serious dieting.

Again, my opinion only.

Pérez

Reynosa, Mexico

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From: Supertraining [mailto:Supertraining ] On

Behalf Of Micah

Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:18 AM

Supertraining

Subject: Re: Speaking of diets...

I'm assuming this talk about a 'carb up day' is the same idea as having a cheat

day on a day off from training, where I usually have a high carb and low protein

day, to increase anabolic response the next day when I'm back to training and

eating properly. I used to do this when I was bulking, when obviously having a

lot of carbs wasn't too much of an issue. But I haven't really included a cheat

day for a while on my current cutting cycle. I'm not entirely convinced that the

response would be enough to make up for all those calories. Does any one have

any links to some studies or research on the effectiveness of this stuff, or

just some more insight?

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Micah,

You should check on some of Lyle Mc's work. Leptin apparently refreshes

Leptin secretion, which acts to suppress appetite.

Here is the series on leptin

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-\

leptin-part-1.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-\

leptin-part-2.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-\

leptin-part-3.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-\

leptin-part-4.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-\

leptin-part-6.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-\

leptin-part-the-last.html

See also:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/flexible-versus-rigid-dieting.html

He also has a few books that you can buy if you are interested in more info. In

particular, Flexible Dieting and Rapid Fat Loss.

Also Whole Health Source did a posting a while back too.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/08/hyperphagy.html

Lyle does a good job of researching and knows his stuff. The one concern I have

is that it is aimed at people who are athletes, in general, rather than average

joes, but that should not be a problem for most of the people on this board.

Tony

{mod: Please don't forget to sign your posts with your full name, city and

country of residence]

>

> I'm assuming this talk about a 'carb up day' is the same idea as having a

cheat day on a day off from training, where I usually have a high carb and low

protein day, to increase anabolic response the next day when I'm back to

training and eating properly. I used to do this when I was bulking, when

obviously having a lot of carbs wasn't too much of an issue. But I haven't

really included a cheat day for a while on my current cutting cycle. I'm not

entirely convinced that the response would be enough to make up for all those

calories. Does any one have any links to some studies or research on the

effectiveness of this stuff, or just some more insight?

>

> Thanks,

> Micah ,

> Melbourne, Australia.

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Thanks for posting this article link. Really helpful. I guess I'll learn more

about this stuff in physiology later in my degree.

Micah ,

Melbourne, Australia.

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From: kenckar <kenckar@...>

Supertraining

Sent: Sat, 15 May, 2010 6:26:38 AM

Subject: Re: Speaking of diets...

Hi ,

at 12%, it does become more difficult to lose bodyfat. Lyle Mc just did a

post on that.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/fasted-cardio-and-fat-loss-qa.html

It's worth a read.

Cheers,

Tony

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