Re: Anyone have experience with Macca powder as a supplement for sexual health?

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At 05:03 PM 1/21/2008, you wrote:

>Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

>Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

>the high 300s and no higher.

>

>How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

>I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

>experienced before.

>

>at 7.5 mg/day I would think you would run at minimum 500-600!!!

testosterone really helped with my GAD (generalized anxiety

disorder). Will your MD raise your androgel to 12.5 mg/day??

Kipp C. Kruse, Ph.d.

Emeritus Professor of Biological Sciences

Eastern Illinois University

ton, IL 61920

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ain't no strip malls, and there ain't no cell phone towers, and there

ain't no internet, and there ain't nobody telling me what to do;

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I've got a half a bag sitting unused in the cupboard because it DOD

nothing for me.

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On Jan 21, 2008, at 3:03 PM, " jonfleetmac " <jonfleetmac@...>

wrote:

> Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

> Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

> the high 300s and no higher.

>

> How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

> I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

> experienced before.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

> Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

> the high 300s and no higher.

>

> How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

> I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

> experienced before.

That seems pretty low for as much androgel that you are using. Perhaps your

skin is not

as open to the absorbtion process.

As far as depression, anxiety and libido go, I would be more focused upon your

E2 levels.

High Estrogen compounds the effects of low testosterone.

I have tried Macca before, but i did not notice anything spectacualr about it.

Others seem

to experince benefits, so your milage may vary.

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I can't speak to any GNC products but the depression and anxiety was common with

me. You'll probably find it common with others too.

You'll tell this to your doctor who will probably prescribe anti-depressants.

This is no big deal since he has no way of determining whether or not you have

clinical depression.

Anti-depressants introduce a chemical into the body known as seratonin, a

neuro transmitter produced by the gastro intestinal system. I was on them for a

year. But all anti-depressants did for me was give me diaherria, a known side

effect of anti depressants.

I'd recommend them only as a last alternative. Patches and gels never worked

for me, had to go to injections so keep that in mind as you proceed with your

therapy.

jonfleetmac <jonfleetmac@...> wrote:

Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

the high 300s and no higher.

How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

experienced before.

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jonfleetmac, I think your depression is a result of your hormones being out

of balance.

Work towards a thirty to one ratio, of T to E. With a high 300 of T, your E

should be ten to fifteen. Ideally your T should be near 600-900, and your E

near twenty to thirty. Arimidex seems to be the most recommended scrpt

medication to lower estrogen. Some folks have luck with DIM, from the

health food store, but it is hit or miss, and not a sure thing.

As E increases depression becomes a problem, in males.

I think the consenses here on this board is that, most men's health

products, although they may help a very few, are designed to seperate you,

from your earned dollars. And those supplements that do help, only do so

for a short period of time.

regards david

Anyone have experience with Macca powder as a

supplement for sexual health?

> Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

> Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

> the high 300s and no higher.

>

> How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

> I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

> experienced before.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Maca is good stuff I get it by the pound and take 1/2 tsp in my applesauce

in the morning and in my yogurt at noon. It helps keep your Adrenals, Thyroid

and Testosterone level. Also in most men it helps with libido and your amount

of seaman.

Your gel is not working to have a level of the 300's is dam low men are going

on TRT when this low your levels are that of a old men 85 to 100 yrs. old. A

lot of men gels don't get through there skin and you end up feeling worse.

Because what is getting through is shuting down your LH this is the message to

your testis to make testosterone.

Feelings of Panic, Depression, Fatigue, Brain Fog, ED, and many more Bone loss

for one. Happen when your this low. You need to keep your Total and Free T

levels up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range for a young man. And check your

Estradiol " E2 " down between 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml yet some men do good at 40

not many.

If I were you I would get on shots do the first shot at 200mgs then every week

100mgs don't let your Dr. talk you into every 2 or 4 weeks this is old and does

not work good. Do you own shots it's a pice of cake.

Go to www.allthingsmale.com Read TRT: A Recipe for Success and the HCG Update.

Once your leveled at the upper 1/3 of your labs range add in HCG this acts like

LH the message that tells your testis to make testosterone. Doing this will

keep all the LH receptor cells in your body and brain working and you will feel

much better.

Also I have a new forum for Dr. at this link a must forum to be a member

at he will be having Top Dr.'s there off and on taking questions.

http://musclechatroom.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Here is a good link to read about low T.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

This link every guy with low T needs to read on page 11 it states to do shots

every 7 to 10 days in case you need to show this to your dr.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

jonfleetmac <jonfleetmac@...> wrote:

Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

the high 300s and no higher.

How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

experienced before.

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kipp come to the new forum we started for Dr. I think you will find this

a good add on to this site. Dr. keeps use up to date on new treatments.

http://musclechatroom.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

kipp kruse <kckruse@...> wrote:

At 05:03 PM 1/21/2008, you wrote:

>Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

>Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

>the high 300s and no higher.

>

>How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

>I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

>experienced before.

>

>at 7.5 mg/day I would think you would run at minimum 500-600!!!

testosterone really helped with my GAD (generalized anxiety

disorder). Will your MD raise your androgel to 12.5 mg/day??

Kipp C. Kruse, Ph.d.

Emeritus Professor of Biological Sciences

Eastern Illinois University

ton, IL 61920

cell = 217-549-2651

" and there ain't no starbucks and there ain't no wal-marts, and there

ain't no strip malls, and there ain't no cell phone towers, and there

ain't no internet, and there ain't nobody telling me what to do;

there are just these potholes and these ducks "

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

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[Guest guest]

I bought a pound of the Maca powder. It never did anything for me either. I

think a person needs a strong extract of Maca to see any benefit.

kissie

Re: Anyone have experience with Macca powder as a

supplement for sexual health?

I've got a half a bag sitting unused in the cupboard because it DOD

nothing for me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 21, 2008, at 3:03 PM, " jonfleetmac " <jonfleetmac@...>

wrote:

> Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

> Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

> the high 300s and no higher.

>

> How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

> I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

> experienced before.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I seen an inprovement over time like about 12 weeks when I stop now I can tell

in a week a big difference.

kissie@... wrote: I bought a pound of the Maca powder. It

never did anything for me either. I think a person needs a strong extract of

Maca to see any benefit.

kissie

Re: Anyone have experience with Macca powder as a

supplement for sexual health?

I've got a half a bag sitting unused in the cupboard because it DOD

nothing for me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 21, 2008, at 3:03 PM, " jonfleetmac " <jonfleetmac@...>

wrote:

> Such as GNC's Macca Man (?) - - something like that ?

>

> Also, any advice if I'm on 7.5 grams of Androgel daily and running in

> the high 300s and no higher.

>

> How is depression / anxiety related to T levels in this range?

> I've experience dark periods of depression recently that I've never

> experienced before.

>

>

>

>

>