Re: or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

[Guest guest]

I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc wants

to give me taxol and cytoxan.  Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors, not

cure.  He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod put

in.  What should I do?

 

Thanks,  Robyn

[Guest guest]

Robyn, I don't think this is a good idea with the taxol, as I have been told by

my doctor, chemo drugs are all most useless on bone cancer, its because the bone

has a weak blood supply, and the bone cant get a high enough dose to kill it

off. The cytoxan is converted in the liver to active forms of chemo that have a

chemotherapeutic activity. but you still have a problem with the blood supply,

getting enough chemo to the bone Ask you doctor. I think the best way is with

the 30 apricot pits I ground up in a coffee grinder and mix with a glass of cold

milk. I all so take zinc and the pine apple enzyme bromelain with it, as I was

told it wont work with out it, if you cant get the apricot pits them pomegranate

juice extract works just as well to I feel for you the pomegranate juice

extrack would be the best way to go

http://bedouina.typepad.com/doves_eye/2007/10/fight-breast-ca.html

but if you cant get it then B17 will also work

http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q1 & page=howdoes 

Ray

From: robyn howell

 

I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc wants

to give me taxol and cytoxan.  Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors, not

cure.  He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod put

in.  What should I do?

[Guest guest]

Hi Robyn,

I also have the stage 4 breast with mets to spine & hip, had now for 5

years.. I am just finishing my 3rd round of chemo x 8 sessions per round ,and

can honestly say apart from the effects of chemo been keeping fantastic.. There

was only a slight change in my last scan. I also do alternative medicine B17

apricot kernels in tablet form, iscador ( mistletoe injections ) &

lachesis.(snake venum ). I have probably tried most alternative medicines over

the years but the only thing that seems to be keeping it at bay for me is the

chemo . I also have been taking bondronat every day for the last five years

which helps strengthen the bones.. Hope this info is of help and helps comfort

you in some way..

God Bless

Ann-Marie

from Scotland.

From: robyn howell

I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc

wants to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors, not

cure. He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod put

in. What should I do?

Thanks, Robyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Ray,

Can you tell me how much zinc and bromelain you take with apricot pits? Thank

you , Halina

________________________________

From: Randall Crossley <randall.crossley@...>

Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 3:49:35 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

Robyn, I don't think this is a good idea with the taxol, as I have been told by

my doctor, chemo drugs are all most useless on bone cancer, its because the bone

has a weak blood supply, and the bone cant get a high enough dose to kill it

off. The cytoxan is converted in the liver to active forms of chemo that have a

chemotherapeutic activity. but you still have a problem with the blood supply,

getting enough chemo to the bone Ask you doctor. I think the best way is with

the 30 apricot pits I ground up in a coffee grinder and mix with a glass of cold

milk. I all so take zinc and the pine apple enzyme bromelain with it, as I was

told it wont work with out it, if you cant get the apricot pits them pomegranate

juice extract works just as well to I feel for you the pomegranate juice extrack

would be the best way to go

http://bedouina.typepad.com/doves_eye/2007/10/fight-breast-ca.html

but if you cant get it then B17 will also work

http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q1 & page=howdoesÂ

Ray

[Guest guest]

If your femur is susceptible to breaking then you have lytic

lesions. A rod isn't a bad idea. You should be on the

bisphosphonates such as pamidronate or Zometa. If it is not too late

you can do a cementoplasty -- methyl methacrylate can be injected

into the bone lesion. It generates cancer-killing heat as it

hardens. In ten minutes you can climb off the table and walk without

a worry. I don't think I would be very enthusiastic about the

Taxol-Cytoxan option.

>From: robyn howell

>

>I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc..

>The onc wants to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it

>will shrink tumors, not cure. He says my left leg is about ready to

>break and I should have a rod put in. What should I do?

[Guest guest]

The other drug is toxotere, not taxol. I suppose it will have the same results?

From: Randall Crossley

Robyn, I don't think this is a good idea with the taxol, as I have been told by

my doctor, chemo drugs are all most useless on bone cancer, its because the bone

has a weak blood supply, and the bone cant get a high enough dose to kill it

off. The cytoxan is converted in the liver to active forms of chemo that have a

chemotherapeutic activity. but you still have a problem with the blood supply,

getting enough chemo to the bone Ask you doctor. I think the best way is with

the 30 apricot pits I ground up in a coffee grinder and mix with a glass of cold

milk. I all so take zinc and the pine apple enzyme bromelain with it, as I was

told it wont work with out it, if you cant get the apricot pits them pomegranate

juice extract works just as well to I feel for you the pomegranate juice extrack

would be the best way to go

http://bedouina.typepad.com/doves_eye/2007/10/fight-breast-ca.html

but if you cant get it then B17 will also work

http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q1 & page=howdoes

Ray

From: robyn howell

I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc

wants to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors, not

cure. He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod put

in. What should I do?

[Guest guest]

Ann-Marie,

What kind of chemo do you take. How far apart are your chemo sessions. Have you

had surgery? How sick does the chemo make you?

How do you know that it is not the alternatives that are working?

Thanks, Robyn

From: ANN-MARIE KELLY

Hi Robyn,

I also have the stage 4 breast with mets to spine & hip, had now for 5 years.. I

am just finishing my 3rd round of chemo x 8 sessions per round ,and can honestly

say apart from the effects of chemo been keeping fantastic.. There was only a

slight change in my last scan. I also do alternative medicine B17 apricot

kernels in tablet form, iscador ( mistletoe injections ) & lachesis.(snake venum

). I have probably tried most alternative medicines over the years but the only

thing that seems to be keeping it at bay for me is the chemo . I also have been

taking bondronat every day for the last five years which helps strengthen the

bones.. Hope this info is of help and helps comfort you in some way..

God Bless

Ann-Marie from Scotland.

From: robyn howell

I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc wants

to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors, not cure.

He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod put in.

What should I do?

[Guest guest]

Ray, I still have a big lump in my breast and I am taking b17 pills. Will that

work?

The onc said something about just using harmones and bone juice if I didnt have

the tumors in the breast and chest and maybe neck.the chemo is called taxotere,

not taxol. Make any difference?

Thanks, Robyn

________________________________

From: HALINA SIMIC <halinasimic@...>

Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 10:14:24 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

Hi Ray,

Can you tell me how much zinc and bromelain you take with apricot pits? Thank

you , Halina

________________________________

From: Randall Crossley <randall.crossley@...>

Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 3:49:35 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

Robyn, I don't think this is a good idea with the taxol, as I have been told by

my doctor, chemo drugs are all most useless on bone cancer, its because the bone

has a weak blood supply, and the bone cant get a high enough dose to kill it

off. The cytoxan is converted in the liver to active forms of chemo that have a

chemotherapeutic activity. but you still have a problem with the blood supply,

getting enough chemo to the bone Ask you doctor. I think the best way is with

the 30 apricot pits I ground up in a coffee grinder and mix with a glass of cold

milk. I all so take zinc and the pine apple enzyme bromelain with it, as I was

told it wont work with out it, if you cant get the apricot pits them pomegranate

juice extract works just as well to I feel for you the pomegranate juice extrack

would be the best way to go

http://bedouina.typepad.com/doves_eye/2007/10/fight-breast-ca.html

but if you cant get it then B17 will also work

http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q1 & page=howdoesÂ

Ray

[Guest guest]

, the chemo is taxotere, not taxol. Make any difference. I still have

tumors in my breast and chest. Do you think these chemos will prolong my life.

What should I do instead?

Thanks, Robyn

________________________________

From: VGammill <vgammill@...>

Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 11:32:10 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

If your femur is susceptible to breaking then you have lytic

lesions. A rod isn't a bad idea. You should be on the

bisphosphonates such as pamidronate or Zometa. If it is not too late

you can do a cementoplasty -- methyl methacrylate can be injected

into the bone lesion. It generates cancer-killing heat as it

hardens. In ten minutes you can climb off the table and walk without

a worry. I don't think I would be very enthusiastic about the

Taxol-Cytoxan option.

>From: robyn howell

>

>I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc..

>The onc wants to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it

>will shrink tumors, not cure. He says my left leg is about ready to

>break and I should have a rod put in. What should I do?

[Guest guest]

Robyn, have you ever considered cannabis?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/96146

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1334629/?tool=pmcentrez

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786950

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221634?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.P\

ubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum & ordinalpos=52

http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/19634029/abstract/Cannabinoids\

_and_the_skeleton:_From_marijuana_to_reversal_of_bone_loss_

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8199007.stm

Most of this is about bone resorption and bone strengthening, but in your

situation, I thought this might still be helpful to you.

xoo

>

> I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc

wants to give me taxol and cytoxan.  Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors,

not cure.  He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod

put in.  What should I do?

>  

> Thanks,  Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

Do you know anyone in my situation that it has helped? It seems hard to get.

How much does it cost?

Thanks, Robyn

________________________________

From: melizzard11 <melizzard@...>

Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 4:00:02 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

Robyn, have you ever considered cannabis?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/96146

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1334629/?tool=pmcentrez

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786950

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221634?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.P\

ubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum & ordinalpos=52

http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/19634029/abstract/Cannabinoids\

_and_the_skeleton:_From_marijuana_to_reversal_of_bone_loss_

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8199007.stm

Most of this is about bone resorption and bone strengthening, but in your

situation, I thought this might still be helpful to you.

xoo

>

> I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc

wants to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors,

not cure. He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod

put in. What should I do?

> Â

> Thanks, Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robyn,

a.. Two types of chemo I am doing are Taxotere & Zelolda... One

intrevenously & the other orally.. I have the intrevenous every 3 weeks followed

by 2 weeks oral.. This is my 3rd time round with the chemo in five years.

Totally disagree with the chap who says chemo does not have any effect on bone

cancer, as I have seen significant changes in my scans over the last 5 years,

even improvement.. My body has coped very well with the chemo not been too bad

at all. Overall probably the worse part for me is the metalic taste and upset

stomaches.

Ann-Marie

a..

b..

c.. ----- Origina l Message -----

From: robyn howell

Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:16 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

Ann-Marie,

What kind of chemo do you take. How far apart are your chemo sessions. Have

you had surgery? How sick does the chemo make you?

How do you know that it is not the alternatives that are working?

Thanks, Robyn

From: ANN-MARIE KELLY

Hi Robyn,

I also have the stage 4 breast with mets to spine & hip, had now for 5 years..

I am just finishing my 3rd round of chemo x 8 sessions per round ,and can

honestly say apart from the effects of chemo been keeping fantastic.. There was

only a slight change in my last scan. I also do alternative medicine B17 apricot

kernels in tablet form, iscador ( mistletoe injections ) & lachesis.(snake venum

). I have probably tried most alternative medicines over the years but the only

thing that seems to be keeping it at bay for me is the chemo . I also have been

taking bondronat every day for the last five years which helps strengthen the

bones.. Hope this info is of help and helps comfort you in some way..

God Bless

Ann-Marie from Scotland.

From: robyn howell

I have stage 4 breast cancer with mets to bones spine, leg, etc.. The onc

wants to give me taxol and cytoxan. Says 70 % chance it will shrink tumors, not

cure. He says my left leg is about ready to break and I should have a rod put

in. What should I do?

[Guest guest]

How many 3 week sessions do you do?

Thanks, Robyn

From: ANN-MARIE KELLY

Hi Robyn,

a.. Two types of chemo I am doing are Taxotere & Zelolda... One

intrevenously & the other orally.. I have the intrevenous every 3 weeks followed

by 2 weeks oral.. This is my 3rd time round with the chemo in five years.

Totally disagree with the chap who says chemo does not have any effect on bone

cancer, as I have seen significant changes in my scans over the last 5 years,

even improvement.. My body has coped very well with the chemo not been too bad

at all. Overall probably the worse part for me is the metalic taste and upset

stomaches.

Ann-Marie

[Guest guest]

Absolutely!!!!! In its natural form, it helps with all of your side effects

like appetite, pain, sleep, nausea. In its extracted form (Phoenix Tears Oil),

it has been known to reverse cachexia, insomnia, drop tumor markers (me), lower

high blood pressure, lower high blood sugar, totally change a fibromyalgia

patient's life (people I know personally), and according to the guy who

developed it, Rick Simpson, it cures most cancers. Go to www.phoenixtears.ca

and watch the movie, Run From the Cure.

Fascinating ...

It's only hard to get where it's illegal, and that's only because of its

illegality there. Rest assured, however, that it is VERY available, regardless.

xoo

robyn howell wrote:

>

> Do you know anyone in my situation that it has helped? It seems hard to get.

How much does it cost?

From: melizzard11

> Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010

> Subject: [ ] Re: or anyone else Chemotherapy and radiation

>

>

> Robyn, have you ever considered cannabis?

>

> http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/96146

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1334629/?tool=pmcentrez

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786950

>

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221634?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.P\

ubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum & ordinalpos=52

>

>

http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/19634029/abstract/Cannabinoids\

_and_the_skeleton:_From_marijuana_to_reversal_of_bone_loss_

>

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8199007.stm

>

> Most of this is about bone resorption and bone strengthening, but in your

situation, I thought this might still be helpful to you.

>

> xoo

>