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Very well done and I appreciate your honest remarks.

[ ] IPT (continued)

List,

When I posted on IPT, it was meant as a response to a subscriber who

had a bad experience, named the clinic, and then advised against

IPT. As I did not know the full story I left out all references to

that post; I wanted to make it clear though that IPT is just another

tool. It can be useful in the hands of the skilled and I have

advised on its use many times over many years. I learned it in 2002

from Dr. Donato - (the grandson of the inventor) who was

treating one of our program participants. Over the years I have

shared my observations with Dr. Donato. I think he is a skilled

practitioner who does a simple form of it that has proven very

successful with early stage cancers. I interviewed him extensively

on the technique so I could better understand its strengths and

weaknesses before recommending it (or any modifications) with any

clinic I advise. I thought that Dr. Donato was very honest. Any

time he did not know an answer he would say so. He claimed success

in about 25% of stage 3 cancers and 0% of stage 4 cancers.

This does not mean that it should not be used on late stage

cancers. It is all the more useful with late stage cancers if you

respect its limitations. It is a technique that requires

understanding and patience. Unfortunately I have seen its use

aggressively marketed by certain clinics. They use it on patients

who should not be candidates for the therapy and they use it in ways

that I consider so flawed that it tarnishes the good reputation that

IPT should have. The flaws that I listed in the earlier post are

very common and I can perhaps even say usual. That listing should

serve as a caveat to help potential users assess the skills of a

practitioner and to help the candidate frame his/her questions. For

example, " Doctor, how can IPT possibly work if I have a low SUV on my

PET-CT? " If a physician makes his/her living from IPT they want to

stay a thousand miles away from that question.

A patient would be foolish to ignore the fact that cancer treatment

is a business that is highly competitive and in which much money

changes hands. Every clinic and every physician puts on a show of

professionalism, authority, and caring. All too often their only

real skills are in displaying this pageantry. IPT has a special

attractiveness as a marketing tool: there is no governing body to set

standards, no mechanism to stop renegade physicians, no way to

attempt redress for misadventures, no transparency in procedures, no

certification process other than being listed on a website that a

weekend course was attended. Of course there are efforts to band

together to improve the product and its marketing and to protect

themselves from outside review or oversight.

All too often a physician has a struggling practice as a general

practitioner and now, with a few hours of training from a road-show

seminar, they are ready to go out and make the real money. This same

model is now being used by Dr. Simoncini to train physicians to cure

every cancer with injections of baking soda.

There are of course experienced, responsible non-oncologist

clinicians and researchers who have wide experience with cancer,

pathophysiology, pharmacology, and immunology who use the basic

understanding of the relationship of insulin, glucose, and high-grade

cancers to achieve better results. For them it is just another tool

or understanding that can be integrated into their practice. It isn't

even necessary to give the strategy its own name, i.e., " Insulin

Potentiation Therapy. " Unfortunately there are not that many of

these practitioners and these few are not well known because it is

not their nature to do a lot of grandstanding.

Conventional oncologists, their guilds, and official governing bodies

almost universally decry IPT with their dour rants that it is unsafe,

unproven, and it is being performed by skallywags and novices. You

would think it is one step short of criminal. At the opposite end of

the spectrum are those who make their living from it and their

Pollyanna supporters with their hosannas. A rational person would

step back and observe that IPT, if properly done, is just another way

to selectively increase chemo uptake into cancer cells -- in this

case any cells with a penchant for glucose. It is one among many

cancer-cell selective therapies. Others include the addition of

various functional groups on chemo molecules to better target

specific receptors, selective particle size to take advantage of

enhanced permeability of aberrant tumor microvasculature,

nanoparticle/liposome incasement, modification of cancer cell stains,

ion trapping, and perhaps a dozen more. These other strategies

usually require a certain comfort level with technical issues or the

meds are hard to obtain. IPT is available to anyone who can get

their hands on insulin.

On the fringes of allopathic medicine are a number of therapies that

do seem to have their merits but don't have an official imprimatur

because they can potentially undermine the profits and the paradigms

of the greater industry. Developers and practitioners of such

therapies can include the cutting-edge types, but just as often are

favored by the rascals and wannabes. A frantic patient has virtually

no chance to sort it all out. I try to use some of the educational

elements of our own program to help a wider audience become wiser consumers.

I am writing a book on rational ways to expand your options and take

charge of your own cancer treatment, and list members are helping me

by questioning and prompting clarifications. I am very appreciative.

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Thank you for your clarification and some of your as usual astute insights. The

specific doctor that I mentioned actually trained with Dr. - and he

makes a point of explaining why it is so important to get the right training.

The question you mentioned that should be asked about " how can IPT work if I

have a low SUV on my PET-CT scan " puzzled me. Can you explain this further.

Why would IPT have better or worse results depending on the SUV number on a PET

scan and can you please explain what you consider a low number or a high number.

This is not a question that we asked but I intend to do so the next time we see

the doctor but I need a better understanding of the question and what I should

be looking for in an answer.

My understanding from our doctor is that there aren't many well trained IPT

practitioners and those who are well trained and committed to this form of

treatment are members of some organization (not sure of the name) that is trying

to get this treatment accepted as an official FDA approved treatment.

Another interesting thing that I wanted to mention is that when we asked the

doctor why he picked this treatment over other alternative treatments his answer

was not that this is the only way to go. He said there are many different

things you can do to fight cancer this is just one of them that he feels in our

case we should try first. If this does not give us the results we want we will

look at other options. Also, he is not doing this exclusively of other

supplements. He strongly urges his patients to modify their diet and make sure

to include the proper supplements to strengthen their immune system. I think

it is a good thing for a support group to keep track of names of clinics and

physicians that people have good or bad experiences with so with that in mind I

offer Dr. Linchitz as a recommended doctor for alternative and

complimentary medicine. As a side point, Dr. Linchitz himself is a Lung Cancer

survivor. I think that in itself makes him a more compassionate and committed

doctor for cancer patients.

I am so glad to hear that you are writing a book and cannot wait for it to be

published so that more people can benefit from your vast knowledge and good

advice.

Nili

[ ] IPT (continued)

List,

When I posted on IPT, it was meant as a response to a subscriber who

had a bad experience, named the clinic, and then advised against

IPT. As I did not know the full story I left out all references to

that post; I wanted to make it clear though that IPT is just another

tool. It can be useful in the hands of the skilled and I have

advised on its use many times over many years. I learned it in 2002

from Dr. Donato - (the grandson of the inventor) who was

treating one of our program participants. Over the years I have

shared my observations with Dr. Donato. I think he is a skilled

practitioner who does a simple form of it that has proven very

successful with early stage cancers. I interviewed him extensively

on the technique so I could better understand its strengths and

weaknesses before recommending it (or any modifications) with any

clinic I advise. I thought that Dr. Donato was very honest. Any

time he did not know an answer he would say so. He claimed success

in about 25% of stage 3 cancers and 0% of stage 4 cancers.

This does not mean that it should not be used on late stage

cancers. It is all the more useful with late stage cancers if you

respect its limitations. It is a technique that requires

understanding and patience. Unfortunately I have seen its use

aggressively marketed by certain clinics. They use it on patients

who should not be candidates for the therapy and they use it in ways

that I consider so flawed that it tarnishes the good reputation that

IPT should have. The flaws that I listed in the earlier post are

very common and I can perhaps even say usual. That listing should

serve as a caveat to help potential users assess the skills of a

practitioner and to help the candidate frame his/her

questions................................<snip>

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What a refreshing post to see someone willing to ask and ask until they are

satisfied they have a basis for treatment acceptance. It looks like your doctor

is in agreement with about most not being well trained practitioners in

IPT. " Information is still our best friend " . Neither of them branded 'all'

doctors as being bad practitioners. Keep this up and pity the next doctor

that tries to use IPT without giving us some answers.

Joe C.

From: Nili Gitig

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 5:26 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] IPT (continued)

My understanding from our doctor is that there aren't many well trained IPT

practitioners and those who are well trained and committed to this form of

treatment are members of some organization (not sure of the name) that is trying

to get this treatment accepted as an official FDA approved treatment.

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All of these cancer therapies are so confusing.  Some say do cod liver oil,

olive oil, flaxoil, beans, soy, fruit, some say dont do these things.  Everyone

has different supplements.  What do we do?

Thanks,  Robyn

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From: Nili Gitig <ngitig@...>

Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 3:26:01 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] IPT (continued)

 

,

Thank you for your clarification and some of your as usual astute insights. The

specific doctor that I mentioned actually trained with Dr. - and he

makes a point of explaining why it is so important to get the right training.

The question you mentioned that should be asked about " how can IPT work if I

have a low SUV on my PET-CT scan " puzzled me. Can you explain this further. Why

would IPT have better or worse results depending on the SUV number on a PET scan

and can you please explain what you consider a low number or a high number. This

is not a question that we asked but I intend to do so the next time we see the

doctor but I need a better understanding of the question and what I should be

looking for in an answer.

My understanding from our doctor is that there aren't many well trained IPT

practitioners and those who are well trained and committed to this form of

treatment are members of some organization (not sure of the name) that is trying

to get this treatment accepted as an official FDA approved treatment.

Another interesting thing that I wanted to mention is that when we asked the

doctor why he picked this treatment over other alternative treatments his answer

was not that this is the only way to go. He said there are many different things

you can do to fight cancer this is just one of them that he feels in our case we

should try first. If this does not give us the results we want we will look at

other options. Also, he is not doing this exclusively of other supplements. He

strongly urges his patients to modify their diet and make sure to include the

proper supplements to strengthen their immune system. I think it is a good thing

for a support group to keep track of names of clinics and physicians that people

have good or bad experiences with so with that in mind I offer Dr.

Linchitz as a recommended doctor for alternative and complimentary medicine. As

a side point, Dr. Linchitz himself is a Lung Cancer survivor. I think that in

itself makes him

a more compassionate and committed doctor for cancer patients.

I am so glad to hear that you are writing a book and cannot wait for it to be

published so that more people can benefit from your vast knowledge and good

advice.

Nili

[ ] IPT (continued)

List,

When I posted on IPT, it was meant as a response to a subscriber who

had a bad experience, named the clinic, and then advised against

IPT. As I did not know the full story I left out all references to

that post; I wanted to make it clear though that IPT is just another

tool. It can be useful in the hands of the skilled and I have

advised on its use many times over many years. I learned it in 2002

from Dr. Donato - (the grandson of the inventor) who was

treating one of our program participants. Over the years I have

shared my observations with Dr. Donato. I think he is a skilled

practitioner who does a simple form of it that has proven very

successful with early stage cancers. I interviewed him extensively

on the technique so I could better understand its strengths and

weaknesses before recommending it (or any modifications) with any

clinic I advise. I thought that Dr. Donato was very honest. Any

time he did not know an answer he would say so. He claimed success

in about 25% of stage 3 cancers and 0% of stage 4 cancers.

This does not mean that it should not be used on late stage

cancers. It is all the more useful with late stage cancers if you

respect its limitations. It is a technique that requires

understanding and patience. Unfortunately I have seen its use

aggressively marketed by certain clinics. They use it on patients

who should not be candidates for the therapy and they use it in ways

that I consider so flawed that it tarnishes the good reputation that

IPT should have. The flaws that I listed in the earlier post are

very common and I can perhaps even say usual. That listing should

serve as a caveat to help potential users assess the skills of a

practitioner and to help the candidate frame his/her questions... .........

.......... ......... ..<snip>

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<<there aren't many well trained IPT practitioners and those who are well

trained and committed to this form of treatment are members of>>

www.ioipcenter.org

(to find an IPT doctor, http://iptforcancer.com, but there are other great IPT

practitioners who aren't members and aren't listed in this directory)

greatyoga@... wrote:

<<why can't or don't docs use IPT with powerful natural substances that would

probably work as well but do not have side effects like chemo does? Are there

any docs that do this sort of thing?>>

Yes, but I can't recall exactly which doctors do it or which substances they

use.

<<IPT doctors! This May they have their yearly conference in Hollywood, Florida

and there will be a day when the public can go and get informed about it.>>

http://www.iptforcancer.com/conference

I attended their conference in October and it was wonderful (both the IPT

material and the material on other aspects of alt. cancer treatment & alt.

medicine).

>leonardleonard1 stated: testicular cancers are easily healed by alternative

treatments: Please elaborate on this

I recall saying (many years ago) that testicular cancer's rather easy to

treat by various methods (alt. and conventional), but I just checked my files

and regret that I really don't know much about alt. treatments for it (other

than that melatonin's very effective w/it).

Leonard

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