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and Kim,

My heart goes out to you! The good news is that 2a responds very well to

treatment and since Kim has a low viral load is also good news. If I am not

mistaken the treatment regime may only be six months for 2a.

Find a good liver doctor...perhaps there's a gastroenterological clinic near

you. The treatment can be hellish, but some do better than others.

Hang in there,

jay

[Guest guest]

Jay,

Thanks for the reply. The doctor we are going to see is at a

gastroenterological clinic. He is suppose to be a good one. We'll

see. Do you know anyone who has tried other types of treatment. We've

read horror stories about interferon treatment and that it can be

very debilitating. Kim is freaking out on this treatment. She is

looking for alternative treatments.

and Kim

> and Kim,

>

> My heart goes out to you! The good news is that 2a responds very

well to treatment and since Kim has a low viral load is also good

news. If I am not mistaken the treatment regime may only be six

months for 2a.

>

> Find a good liver doctor...perhaps there's a gastroenterological

clinic near you. The treatment can be hellish, but some do better

than others.

>

> Hang in there,

>

> jay

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

and Kim, my name is . I was also freaking out but this

group held me together. I just took my 6th shot this last Sunday and I

take 4 Ribavirin pills daily. For me the sides aren't to bad at all. I

take anti-nausa meds and that helps a lot!! I get a bit weak at times

but still have an active life. Take care- you'll make it.

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for the reply. Do you have a job? Kim is afraid that she

won't be able to work if she starts interferon and would lose her

insurance. We've heard some pretty bad reports about this. You say

you still have an active life, how active is active. Not trying to

pry, just overall? Kim is going to have to learn how to use the

internet . I don't like typing a lot. No, I would do anything for

her. I'm so glad I found this forum for her. She needs to hear from

people like you. She's really bummed over this. Hope your treatment

continues to go well. Stay in touch. You'll see us on this site a lot

now.

Thank you again for replying.

and Kim

> and Kim, my name is . I was also freaking out but

this

> group held me together. I just took my 6th shot this last Sunday

and I

> take 4 Ribavirin pills daily. For me the sides aren't to bad at

all. I

> take anti-nausa meds and that helps a lot!! I get a bit weak at

times

> but still have an active life. Take care- you'll make it.

[Guest guest]

and Kim, no I don't work but if I did I probably still could.

It depends on what the job would be of course. I'm active as far as

going shopping which I'm getting ready to do. I still have a very

good appetite. Every one is different. I had to take the chance on

treatment and I made a vow if I couldn't handle tx then I'd quit, but so

far so good.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/19/03 12:15:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mhughey@... writes:

> Thank you for the reply. Do you have a job? Kim is afraid that she

> won't be able to work if she starts interferon and would lose her

> insurance. We've heard some pretty bad reports about this. You say

> you still have an active life, how active is active.

I know this was not directed at me, but I will be taking my 12th shot this

Friday and I am a CPA. This is my busiest time of year as I specialize in

income taxes. I am working long hours and hanging in there. It is not

always easy as I get very tired sometimes. But I take breaks and do the best

I can.

Everyone reacts differently to the meds, so Kim could have any easy time. I

think it would be better to go into it with a positive attitude.

Welcome to the group!

[Guest guest]

,

That's good to hear. Kim will be glad to hear also. I'm at work so

she won't see any of this till tonight. I'm so glad your doing well.

I think a positive outlook helps also. I've got to keep her mind busy

so she won't spend so much time thinking about this.

Thanks again

and Kim

[Guest guest]

I'm 3a.

Oh I also wanted to ask if anybody has this side effect. My eyelids are

very very tender since starting tx,

[Guest guest]

Mike,

The treatment can be bad, but some people tolerate the sides fairly well. At

worst, it is like having an extremely bad flu. Use your computer to search

Google at www.google.com for information on this illness and its treatment. The

better informed you are, the better it will go.

There are no other alternative treatments. They have had some success in Europe

treating some Hep patients with herbal treatments, but since Kim has the 2b, she

will only have to get treated for 24 weeks.

jay

[Guest guest]

hi i m waiting for my hcg its seem like forevertravelingiris <RainbowNScooby2@...> wrote: Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is so much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a couple of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from

Wal-mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put my food on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it piping hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a regular oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this helps.

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[Guest guest]

Hey, welcome to the group and thanks for your contributions already!

Jodie

>

> Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is

so

> much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to

> arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it

will

> come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.

>

> I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a

couple

> of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from Wal-

> mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and

> square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put my

food

> on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it

piping

> hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a

regular

> oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this

> helps.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all !!! I have another good idea that I either read on here ... or SOMEWHERE. Put your food on a microwaveable or oven proof plate, and set it on top of a pot of boiling water. Put a lid over it and the steam steams the food and keeps it moist!!! It's like you just cooked it!! The microwave is quicker, but this only takes a couple of minutes. If you're finding it difficult to get away from the microwave, keep reading about all the nasty things it does to your food! I haven't used mine in a week and 2 days. Started Phase 1 that long ago (week and 2 days) and have lost 9 lbs so far. Not really thrilled about this cuz according to KT, it's not the nasty fat I'm losing, it's the necessary fat that your body needs. Right?travelingiris <RainbowNScooby2@...>

wrote: Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is so much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a couple of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from Wal-mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen,

but who cares? I put my food on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it piping hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a regular oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

9lbs is 9lbs!!! Way to go! What are you doing for Phase I? He gives so

many things I'm not sure where to begin! Thanks for sharing your

experience.

Re: New to this forum

Hi all !!! I have another good idea that I either read on here ... or

SOMEWHERE.

Put your food on a microwaveable or oven proof plate, and set it on top of

a pot

of boiling water. Put a lid over it and the steam steams the food and

keeps it

moist!!! It's like you just cooked it!! The microwave is quicker, but

this only takes

a couple of minutes. If you're finding it difficult to get away from the

microwave,

keep reading about all the nasty things it does to your food!

I haven't used mine in a week and 2 days. Started Phase 1 that long ago

(week

and 2 days) and have lost 9 lbs so far. Not really thrilled about this

cuz according

to KT, it's not the nasty fat I'm losing, it's the necessary fat that your

body needs.

Right?

travelingiris <RainbowNScooby2@...> wrote:

Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is

so

much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to

arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will

come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.

I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a couple

of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from Wal-

mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and

square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put my food

on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it piping

hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a regular

oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this

helps.

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<p><div>Hi all !!! & nbsp; I have another good idea that I either

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water. & nbsp; Put a lid over it and the steam steams the food and keeps it

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microwave is quicker, but this only takes</div> <div>a couple of

minutes. & nbsp; If you're finding it difficult to get away from the

microwave, </div> <div>keep reading about all the nasty things it does to

your food! & nbsp; </div> <div> & nbsp;</div> <div>I haven't used mine in a

week and 2 days. & nbsp; Started Phase 1 that long ago (week </div> <div>and

2 days) and have lost 9 lbs so far. & nbsp; Not really thrilled about this cuz

according</div> <div>to KT, it's not the nasty fat I'm losing, it's the

necessary fat that your body needs. & nbsp; </div>

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I THREW MY MICROWAVE AWAY

TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!

I have been saying it for months, and I took the plunge today.

On 7 May 2007, at 14:37, Debbie Piazza wrote:

> Hi all !!!  I have another good idea that I either read on here ... or

> SOMEWHERE.

> Put your food on a microwaveable or oven proof plate, and set it on

> top of a pot

> of boiling water.  Put a lid over it and the steam steams the food and

> keeps it

> moist!!!  It's like you just cooked it!!  The microwave is quicker,

> but this only takes

> a couple of minutes.  If you're finding it difficult to get away from

> the microwave,

> keep reading about all the nasty things it does to your food! 

>  

> I haven't used mine in a week and 2 days.  Started Phase 1 that long

> ago (week

> and 2 days) and have lost 9 lbs so far.  Not really thrilled about

> this cuz according

> to KT, it's not the nasty fat I'm losing, it's the necessary fat that

> your body needs. 

> Right?

>

> travelingiris <RainbowNScooby2@...! > wrote:

>> Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is so

>> much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to

>> arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will

>> come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.

>>

>> I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a couple

>> of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from Wal-

>> mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and

>> square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put my food

>> on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it piping

>> hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a regular

>> oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this

>> helps.

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, thanks! That feels good to be recognized for a loss. I can't remember the last time I was under 230 lbs!!! I am taking 6 (2 each meal) Living Multi Optimal Womens vitamins (purchased at The Vitamin Shope), the Threelac Candida cleanse (1-2 each day), 2 Krill Oil per day, Fiber Smart (not very tasty) and Original Cleanse Smart (2 in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m.). I purchased Coral Calcium and add that to my water daily, and drink Wu Long Tea (iced as I don't care for hot tea). I've also been eating nothing but organic food during this time and am trying to use Raw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar on my salad, but I realllllly don't like vinegar in any way, shape or form!! I LOVE olive oil on my salad, but I'm trying to force myself to endure the vinegar! Oh ... I did

purchase raw coconut oil and it's delicious!! I pan fry my fish in it and put it in a pan when I broil my chicken! I probably shouldn't say this but I've consumed 2 pkgs of Newman's cookies in the past week and a half!!! Hey ... they're organic! LOL I really hope this Candida cleanse works as far as taking away my cravings for carbs & sweets!!! Obviously I NEED IT!!! It's pretty expensive to obtain all the necessary items needed for Phase 1, but I'm slowly accumulating my "stash"! I'd like to do the colonics, but they're $85 per session!!! And KT recommends 15 during Phase 1?? That's 1 every other day!!! Whew! Ya think he'll finance that for me? LOL I have an appointment with Transformations up in

Melbourne, FL on the 29th of this month for my first try at hCG! I can't wait!!! I hope I'm doing enough to get my body ready to drop some of this extra tonnage!!! My goal is 170 lbs. I'm 5'10" and 48 yrs old. I wanna look like I did in my 30's!!! Keep your fingers crossed and pray for me! I'll do the same for you! Take care and thanks for your compliment! DebbieBernie <BernieBear@...> wrote: 9lbs is 9lbs!!! Way to go! What are you doing for Phase I? He gives somany things I'm not sure where to begin! Thanks for sharing yourexperience. -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] OnBehalf Of Debbie PiazzaSent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Re: New to this forumHi all !!! I have another good idea that I either read on here ... orSOMEWHERE.Put your food on a microwaveable or oven proof plate, and set it on top ofa potof boiling water. Put a lid over it and the steam steams the food andkeeps it moist!!! It's like you just cooked it!! The microwave is

quicker, butthis only takesa couple of minutes. If you're finding it difficult to get away from themicrowave, keep reading about all the nasty things it does to your food! I haven't used mine in a week and 2 days. Started Phase 1 that long ago(week and 2 days) and have lost 9 lbs so far. Not really thrilled about thiscuz accordingto KT, it's not the nasty fat I'm losing, it's the necessary fat that yourbody needs. Right?travelingiris <RainbowNScooby2aol> wrote:Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This isso much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a couple of ovensafe (conventional oven, not

microwave oven) plates from Wal-mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put my food on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it piping hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a regular oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this helps.--0-681340987-1178563064=:38906Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN""http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"><html><head></head><!-- Network content --><body style="background-color: #ffffff;"><!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="width:655px;

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<div>I haven't used mine in aweek and 2 days. & nbsp; Started Phase 1 that long ago (week </div> <div>and2 days) and have lost 9 lbs so far. & nbsp; Not really thrilled about this cuzaccording</div> <div>to KT, it's not the nasty fat I'm losing, it's thenecessary fat that your body needs. & nbsp; </div><div>Right?<BR><BR><B><I>travelingiris & lt;RainbowNScooby2@<wbr>aol.com & gt;</I></B>wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2pxsolid;"><!-- Network content --> <DIV id="ygrp-text"> <div>Hi everyone! Irecognize several names from the NC site. This is so <BR>much faster andeasier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to <BR>arrive. I ordered fromdrugdelivery.<WBR>ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will <BR>come this week.

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[Guest guest]

LOL. I can't stop laughing about you consuming two packages from

Newmans cookies. Don't feel bad cause i've done the same thing. I lost

12 pound the first couple of weeks then gained 2 and now I haven't

lost a dang thing!!! I wonder if it's because I haven't done a cleanse

yet?

Anyway, I just bought a 10 day cleanse. After I finish the cleanse I

am starting the phase 2 diet. I've already received HCG from

drugdelivery.ca and it's sitting there. I'm kind of afraid injecting

myself and also nervous bout mixing it myself......I guess those are

normal fears?

joe

[Guest guest]

Go Joe, you can't do it. The injections are so easy " a caveman can do it " .

You'll see, I used to be the most chicken, needlephobic person - EVER! I

started injections on Friday and , very easy and pain free! You'll

see! Goodluck! Joanie )

>From: " jojo2angel2002 " <nippy_24@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: New to this forum

>Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 00:50:44 -0000

>

>LOL. I can't stop laughing about you consuming two packages from

>Newmans cookies. Don't feel bad cause i've done the same thing. I lost

>12 pound the first couple of weeks then gained 2 and now I haven't

>lost a dang thing!!! I wonder if it's because I haven't done a cleanse

>yet?

>

>Anyway, I just bought a 10 day cleanse. After I finish the cleanse I

>am starting the phase 2 diet. I've already received HCG from

>drugdelivery.ca and it's sitting there. I'm kind of afraid injecting

>myself and also nervous bout mixing it myself......I guess those are

>normal fears?

>

>joe

>

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I am so proud of you. It takes a giant leap to make that statement

about your health to throw your microwave away. Mine is on the way to

the dump as well. CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!

Jodie

> >> Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is

so

> >> much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to

> >> arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it

will

> >> come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.

> >>

> >> I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a

couple

> >> of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from

Wal-

> >> mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red

and

> >> square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put

my food

> >> on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it

piping

> >> hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a

regular

> >> oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this

> >> helps.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah!!!! Way to go!!! Unfortunately I can't throw mine away as it's installed over my stove ... and I live in a rental house. But ... many CONGRATS to you!!! DebbieJodie <our_humblepie@...> wrote: I am so proud of you. It takes a giant leap to make that statement about your health to throw your microwave away. Mine is on the way to the dump as well. CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!Jodie> >> Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is so> >> much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to> >> arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it will> >> come this week. I can't wait to join in

on all the weightloss.> >>> >> I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a couple> >> of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from Wal-> >> mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red and> >> square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put my food> >> on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it piping> >> hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a regular> >> oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this> >> helps.> >>> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jodie,

I feel really good about it. Hey we have lived for eons without one.

Technology is not ALWAYS better!!!

I shall not miss it.

The only think I ever did was make pop corn, reheat left overs, or nuke

my cold coffee.....

Plus , I have more counter space in my n (small) kitchen!!!

On 7 May 2007, at 21:22, Jodie wrote:

> I am so proud of you. It takes a giant leap to make that statement

> about your health to throw your microwave away. Mine is on the way to

> the dump as well. CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!

>

> Jodie

>

>

> > >> Hi everyone! I recognize several names from the NC site. This is

> so

> > >> much faster and easier to use. I'm still waiting for my hcg to

> > >> arrive. I ordered from drugdelivery.ca on 04/24 so hopefully it

> will

> > >> come this week. I can't wait to join in on all the weightloss.

> > >>

> > >> I noticed a few messages about using the microwave. I bought a

> couple

> > >> of ovensafe (conventional oven, not microwave oven) plates from

> Wal-

> > >> mart. They only had one kind at my closest store which was red

> and

> > >> square shaped. Doesn't match my kitchen, but who cares? I put

> my food

> > >> on the plate and put it in my toater oven on broil. It gets it

> piping

> > >> hot in about 5 minutes. I'm sure it would work the same in a

> regular

> > >> oven. Just make sure to put the plate on the top rack. Hope this

> > >> helps.

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I was just diagnosed with tertiary hypogonadism after the results

came back from an LHRH test I had recently and was directed to this

sight by someone from the Propecia forum, I was taking this poison

for 6 years. To make a long story short my endo prescribed

Testosterone although refuses to place me on Hcg upon my

recommendation as he feels it's too risky. I tried Clomid once at 25

mg although unfortunately I got up in the middle of the night with a

heart flutter I'd never experienced before so chose to discontinue

its use. My endo has referred me to another specialist at Mt. Sinai

in Toronto that apparently deals with all modalities of treatments

which will be in another month or so. Anyway I was wondering if

anyone could offer some advice with regards to the most favourable

approach in treating this condition. I've done some research on Hcg

and it appears that it's not too risky, I do like the fact that it

prevents testicular atrophy as well as possibly not rasing E2 as

much as T therapy. My most recent blood test results are below,

thanks.

TSH-0.87 0.30-4.70 MU/L

T4 FREE-12.5 9.1-23.8 PMOL/L

FREE T3-4.3 2.5-5.7 PMOL/L

CORTISOL-188 30-958 NMOL/L

LH-2.1 1.1-8.8 IU/L

FSH-3.3 1.0-13.6 IU/L

TESTOSTERONE-9.1 6.0-30.0 NMOL/L

FREE TESTOSTERONE-11.4 19.0-94.0 PMOL/L

BIOAVAILABLE TEST-1.18 2-8.6 NMOL/L

DHT-1204 860-3406 PMOL/L

SHBG-50 3-71 NMOL/L

ESTRADIOL-55 0-161 PMOL/L

HCG-C-«2 «2 IU/L

PROGESTERONE-«1 0-4 NMOL/L

PROLACTIN-7.6 2.6-13.1 UG/L

DHEA SULPHATE-2.3 «14 UMOL/L

PSA TOTAL-0.21 «4 UG/L

PSA FREE-0.108 «0.934 UG/L

Regards,

Chris

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information Joan :-))

I had my last surgery about 6 months a go and did have smell for a month or so

after.

The only other times I ever have any smell at all is after a steroid dose pack.

But of course it's fleeting ;-(

I will ask my ENT about this process.

Thanks again!!

>

> > Hello fellow sufferers!!

> >

> > I am 41 years old and was first diagnosed in 1994 with this condition. Since

then I have had 4 surgeries and a few close calls with aspirin by accident. I am

currently taking generic Flonase and an asthma steroid inhaler.

> >

> > I also use a Neti Pot daily which helps. Additionally I use Ocean (nasal

saline spray).

> >

> > Given that my asthma is under control and I don't have migraines, the worst

part of this for me is the total lack of smell or taste. So many emotions are

tied to sense of smell like the hot dogs at a baseball game or your significant

others favorite perfume, flowers in the spring etc.

> > And of course the taste issue rears its head daily.

> >

> > It's just such a bummer!! When friends complain about the smell of the car

exhaust or the trash can nearby I always tell them I would give anything to

smell that!! anything!!

> >

> > It seems that the main culprit in this area seems to be the swelling which

must block the ability to smell anything. Has anyone who has gone through the

aspirin desensitization therapy regained sense of smell?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Regarding the rate of regrowth, my experience has been that they return faster every time. It was 7 years between my first surgery and my second, 3 years between my second and my third, and I'm pretty sure I have some regrowth already after a year and a half. Looking into aspirin desense. Good luck to you - there are no easy choices with this. From: JudyZ <judy.zollner@...>To:

samters Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 8:33:46 AMSubject: Re: New to this forum

I am also debating going ahead with desensitization....

I had one surgery 14 years ago and aside from loss of smell immediately after the surgery really didn't have many symptoms until around a year ago. The polyps were in my nasal passages at that point so I just had my 2nd surgery in November. I regained some sense of smell but like others have warned I "enjoyed it while it lasted" since it is not so strong now and I'm afraid it will be gone soon.

If my polyps take so long to grow and I wouldn't need another surgery in say another 10 years, I am debating the merits of the aspirin desensitization. My asthma has pretty much been under control--my complaints that lead to the second surgery were basically annoyances (runny nose, watery eyes). Of course if I knew my sense of smell would stay after aspirin desense that would be an incentive, but it seems like that is not a guarantee either.

My ENT refers to Scripps in San Diego which is quite a journey from my home in Chicagoland so the aspirin desense is quite an undertaking, not to mention my concern about taking aspirin every day going forward.

Does anyone have any info on the rate of polyp growth? Is it possible that between 1994 and 2010 my polyps were growing at a slow rate but now they will grow much faster? I see that many have needed surgery within a couple years after having a surgery done. Is this common later in life--do they grow faster once we hit our 40s?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Judy

> >

> > > Hello fellow sufferers!!

> > >

> > > I am 41 years old and was first diagnosed in 1994 with this condition. Since then I have had 4 surgeries and a few close calls with aspirin by accident. I am currently taking generic Flonase and an asthma steroid inhaler.

> > >

> > > I also use a Neti Pot daily which helps. Additionally I use Ocean (nasal saline spray).

> > >

> > > Given that my asthma is under control and I don't have migraines, the worst part of this for me is the total lack of smell or taste. So many emotions are tied to sense of smell like the hot dogs at a baseball game or your significant others favorite perfume, flowers in the spring etc.

> > > And of course the taste issue rears its head daily.

> > >

> > > It's just such a bummer!! When friends complain about the smell of the car exhaust or the trash can nearby I always tell them I would give anything to smell that!! anything!!

> > >

> > > It seems that the main culprit in this area seems to be the swelling which must block the ability to smell anything. Has anyone who has gone through the aspirin desensitization therapy regained sense of smell?

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes for a short time but it comes back now when I have prednisone

> >

> > > Hello fellow sufferers!!

> > >

> > > I am 41 years old and was first diagnosed in 1994 with this

condition. Since then I have had 4 surgeries and a few close calls with

aspirin by accident. I am currently taking generic Flonase and an asthma

steroid inhaler.

> > >

> > > I also use a Neti Pot daily which helps. Additionally I use Ocean

(nasal saline spray).

> > >

> > > Given that my asthma is under control and I don't have migraines,

the worst part of this for me is the total lack of smell or taste. So

many emotions are tied to sense of smell like the hot dogs at a baseball

game or your significant others favorite perfume, flowers in the spring

etc.

> > > And of course the taste issue rears its head daily.

> > >

> > > It's just such a bummer!! When friends complain about the smell of

the car exhaust or the trash can nearby I always tell them I would give

anything to smell that!! anything!!

> > >

> > > It seems that the main culprit in this area seems to be the

swelling which must block the ability to smell anything. Has anyone who

has gone through the aspirin desensitization therapy regained sense of

smell?

> > >

> > >

> >

>