Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 This will be long. Sorry. Phil, in another thread, you posted this link: http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 which I had looked at before, but this time I actually read it carefully. And to me it presents a new way of thinking about aromatase inhibitors, particularly for men who are NOT on TRT. We talk all the time about taking an Arimidex dose that brings the E2 level down to the low 20s. But in this study there were two groups receiving very different doses of Arimidex, and they ended up with very similar E2 levels. What was substantially different was the resulting T levels. The authors point out that taking Arimidex is somewhat self-limiting as to the resulting E2 level. I think the idea is that while more Arimidex produces more aromatase inhibition, there is a lot more T on which the remaining aromatase can operate, so some conversion still takes place, and E2 doesn't fall very much. So within limits, you would pick the Arimidex dose that produces the target *T* level, not a target E2 level. The problems with this are: 1. If substantially different Arimidex doses result in very similar E2 levels, then what causes the very substantial changes in T? 2. You still have to be careful not to take so much Arimidex that E2 goes too low. I'm not on TRT, but I started taking Arimidex after my baseline E2 test came back at 48. But I have had regular E2 tests done since then (but not T tests) and I've found that cutting the dose in half does indeed only raise E2 by a couple points - such as from 21 to 23. So within a certain range, which would be different for each man, the authors of this study seem to be correct. Well, I think this means if you get E2 to *about* the right level, you still might be passing up some major benefits from further tweaks. My plan, which was to just test and control E2, probably isn't enough. Instead, I need to be tweaking T by means of the Arimidex dose, with E2 tests only being used to make sure E2 doesn't go too low. Does any of this make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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