A question RE: clomid dose [was: Re: On treatment and still feel

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Do you have a source for this information about Clomid and estradiol?

I'm not questioning whether it's true, but it would be good to be

armed with something more authoritative than " some of the guys in my

hypogonadism group told me so. " My doc tends to want to know how I

know certain things. Or, even if he doesn't, I'd like to give him

something to help persuade him to test for certain things.

Also, kissie, what is the source for that info on the thyroid tests

and the T4/depression link?

Thanks,

Mike

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> > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > >

> > > > > It's been a while since I've posted. Long story short: went on

> > Clomid

> > > > > last summer after 3 blood tests on separate dates revealed low

> free

> > > > > testosterone (though low-normal total T - around 380). Clomid

> raised

> > > > > my free and total T levels but I felt like crap, very sleepy

every

> > > > > day, depressed, irritable. There was some improvement in

> sexual side

> > > > > effects including morning erections and more reliable orgasms.

> > > > >

> > > > > Switched to TRT gel in November on the theory that maybe the

> Clomid

> > > > > was causing the issues. But here I am in late Feb after 3

> months on

> > > > > TRT and the sleepiness and depression continue. It's very

weird. I

> > > > > sometimes start the day feeling great, good mood, energetic.

> But by

> > > > > mid-afternoon it's like a switch goes off.

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone else experienced this? My doc said my E2 levels

> were very

> > > > > low while on Clomid (but I didn't get the exact reading). I'm

> > guessing

> > > > > they're higher now since I'm on Testim, but the same symptoms

> > > > > continue. Doc also ruled out infection and apnea as causes

of the

> > > > fatigue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can testosterone trigger or worsen depression? I'm pretty

> > disappointed

> > > > > since I was expecting to feel generally hornier and in a

> better mood

> > > > > more often than not. But instead, I'm marginally better in

> terms of

> > > > > sexual functioning but much more prone to depressed episodes and

> > mood

> > > > > swings.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any insights you could offer would be appreciated, especially if

> > > > > you've experienced this yourself. I've got a follow up with my

> > > > > urologist next month and am in contact with my primary care

about

> > > > > continuing to rule out other stuff...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

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