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I put lemon juice in it made it cold and drank it. Myra

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>

> >From: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@...>

> >

> >At 22:08 07.06.99 -0700, you wrote:

> >> I have been taking Herbal Fiberblend for a few months.. It

contains...

> >>Psyllium, black walnut hulls, hibiscus glowers, vaitaminC, shavegrass,

> >>licorice root, alfalfa, cascara sagrada, oatstraw, pumpkin seed, Irish

> >>moss, yucca, passionflower, marshmallow root, violet leaves, witch

hazel,

> >>sleppery elm, mullein leaves, capsicum Do you know if this is a good

> >>product or formula to keep the bowel clean.. and what about

> parasites..???

> >> Thank you Blessings Christy

> >

> >

> >Hi Christy,

> >I have never tried this product, and I don't know anyone who did..

> >

> >Ingredients are very good for the bowel..

> >

> >It is combination of the bowel cleansing herbs and parasite killing

herbs..

> >It must be also effective against candida..

> >

> >

> >How are you suppose to use it ?

> >With food or just like this, form of fasting ?

> >

> >

> >Did you try liver cleanse ?

> >

> >Dusan

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THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS YOU CAN DO TO HELP SWALLOW THE OLIVE OIL FOR THE LIVER

CLEANSE. ONE IS DRINK IT OUT OF A STRAW MAKING SURE THE STRAW IS TOWARD THE

BACK OF THE THROAT. I LIKE TO CHUG IT FIRST FOLLOWED BY 8 OUNCES OF

GRAPEFRUIT AND LEMON JUICE MIXED WITH 8 OUNCES OF ICE COLD WATER. IT TAKES

SO LONG TO DRINK IT BY THE TIME YOU FINISH THE OLIVE OIL TASTE IS PRETTY MUCH

GONE. IF YOU MIX THE OLIVE OIL CITRUS TOGETHER KEEPING IT STIRRED UP WELL

HELPS SOME PEOPLE SO THAT THE OIL DOESN'T FLOAT AND IT'S THE LAST THING YOU

TASTE. HOPE THIS HELPS.

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just can't do it... i tried..took a big gulp and all i do when i even think

about it is gag.

robin

Re: LIVER CLEANSE

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>I put lemon juice in it made it cold and drank it. Myra

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>>

>>

>> >From: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@...>

>> >

>> >At 22:08 07.06.99 -0700, you wrote:

>> >> I have been taking Herbal Fiberblend for a few months.. It

>contains...

>> >>Psyllium, black walnut hulls, hibiscus glowers, vaitaminC, shavegrass,

>> >>licorice root, alfalfa, cascara sagrada, oatstraw, pumpkin seed, Irish

>> >>moss, yucca, passionflower, marshmallow root, violet leaves, witch

>hazel,

>> >>sleppery elm, mullein leaves, capsicum Do you know if this is a good

>> >>product or formula to keep the bowel clean.. and what about

>> parasites..???

>> >> Thank you Blessings Christy

>> >

>> >

>> >Hi Christy,

>> >I have never tried this product, and I don't know anyone who did..

>> >

>> >Ingredients are very good for the bowel..

>> >

>> >It is combination of the bowel cleansing herbs and parasite killing

>herbs..

>> >It must be also effective against candida..

>> >

>> >

>> >How are you suppose to use it ?

>> >With food or just like this, form of fasting ?

>> >

>> >

>> >Did you try liver cleanse ?

>> >

>> >Dusan

>> >

>> >

>> >

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thanks. i'll try again...

also i was worried about weight gain with this liver flush. i really can;t

afford to gain.

robin

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>THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS YOU CAN DO TO HELP SWALLOW THE OLIVE OIL FOR THE

LIVER

>CLEANSE. ONE IS DRINK IT OUT OF A STRAW MAKING SURE THE STRAW IS TOWARD

THE

>BACK OF THE THROAT. I LIKE TO CHUG IT FIRST FOLLOWED BY 8 OUNCES OF

>GRAPEFRUIT AND LEMON JUICE MIXED WITH 8 OUNCES OF ICE COLD WATER. IT TAKES

>SO LONG TO DRINK IT BY THE TIME YOU FINISH THE OLIVE OIL TASTE IS PRETTY

MUCH

>GONE. IF YOU MIX THE OLIVE OIL CITRUS TOGETHER KEEPING IT STIRRED UP WELL

>HELPS SOME PEOPLE SO THAT THE OIL DOESN'T FLOAT AND IT'S THE LAST THING YOU

>TASTE. HOPE THIS HELPS.

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Hi Kelli,

Find Hulda 's website on the internet and hit " liver cleanse. "

Liz K.

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>

> Liver cleanse...

> Someone posted a message about a liver cleanse that

> they had many " stones " come out....I tried to go to

> the site mentioned, and was not able to see the

> procedure. I am VERY interested in knowing the

> details of this program....can someone help me out

> with the specifics...

> thanks in advance

> kelli frantik

>

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The liver cleanse will work, but so does the gall

bladder cleanse -- I passed green stones just like I

was told. Actually they were like big chunks of green

sand -- lots of it. :) I am going to KEEP MY GALL

BLADDER, thank you! :)

Carolyn

--- stevku@... wrote:

> Hi Kelli,

>

> Find Hulda 's website on the internet and hit

> " liver cleanse. "

>

> Liz K.

> -----

>

>

> >

> > Liver cleanse...

> > Someone posted a message about a liver cleanse

> that

> > they had many " stones " come out....I tried to go

> to

> > the site mentioned, and was not able to see the

> > procedure. I am VERY interested in knowing the

> > details of this program....can someone help me out

> > with the specifics...

> > thanks in advance

> > kelli frantik

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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Hi Tracey,

I've done it, if you want to give me a phone call I can tell you

more......email me if you do and I'll send you my number privately.

Remember, when you do this cleanse you aren't sick so its not like you get

diarrhea in the usual way with all the usual symptoms. And it does work. I

didn't present with liver/gallstone probs and I got rid of heaps of them. I

didn't get around to doing the second one as I got a job and my weekends

were taken up.

Kate

At 09:01 7/09/2001 +1200, you wrote:

>Hi everyone

>

>has anyone here ever done the liver cleanse? I don';t know how I would do

>it with three kids to look after.

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Hi Kate

Why not just post it for all of us to see? The liver cleanse I try is

apparently not the same as yours, as I don't pass anything. I'm curious.

diane

Kate wrote

Hi Tracey,

I've done it, if you want to give me a phone call I can tell you

more......email me if you do and I'll send you my number privately.

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Well, Im on the gallstone list and theyre a wealth of info. Theres lots of

variations. Heres the links from the gallstone group. Sorry, they dont seem

to be hyperlinks, you;ll have to cut and paste them.Some say you have to do

a parasite cleanse first, we all have parasites in some form, but I didn't.

Some say to take ornithine, I didn't, it was too expensive for me here in

NZ. And I didn't know if it'd work. I suffered nausea and a headache in the

night, but now I see thats because the epsom salts dehydrated me, I would

drink far more water now. I also didn't do a clean out before hand, or a

fast. It still works.

On the day you plan to do it, say Friday morning, dont eat anything too

fatty, I made sure I ate because I didn't want to be hungry. Stop eating at

2pm, make up a the epsom salts mix, 3 cups of water with 4 tablespoons of

epsom salts. PUt this in the fridge because it goes down better really

cold. Some people suggest you drink this in a straw so it doesn't taste as

revolting. I found it awful....theres a theory that you're low in magnesium

if you cant stand the epsom salts.

At 6 pm drink a 1/4 of this mixture, which will be 3/4 of a cup. At 8 pm

drink another 1/4. At 10pm mix up half a cup of olive oil, its extra

virgin or virgin. I used light olive oil. And mix it with a big grapefruit

or two small one. I liked this taste. Some people dont so drink it with a

straw.

Go to bed and lie still for 20 minutes. Some say to lie on your side, cant

remember which, but if you visit those sites you'll read what others have

done. Believe me I felt movement. I hadn't had to visit the toilet at this

stage, but by 11.30pm I did. Remember its not like when you're sick and you

have diarrhea. You dont feel anything other than a quickening of your

bowels. I also think the fear of wondering what was going to happen didn't

allow me to have a restful night.

On waking, some say 6am, I didnt care, you get up and drink another 1/4 of

epsoms salts mix, and then 2 hours later you drink the last lot.

I wouldn't plan to go anywhere, I've read some people have, when you gotta

go you gotta go. You'll see alot of chaff in the bowl, but you should also

see pea looking substances which are gallstones. They're not the hard

calcified ones, but you may move those. Some people have green ones, others

tan ones. Ive heard alot of people have better results in subsequent cleanses.

I started eating around 1pm that day, and ate lightly for the rest of the

day. I was passing stones for a few days after. Other than sleep

deprivation I didn't feel bad at all.

Remember if you have gallstones, then youre liver will be full of stones as

well because the gallbladder is the overflow bile bag for your liver.

Kate

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>Hi Kate

>

>Why not just post it for all of us to see? The liver cleanse I try is

>apparently not the same as yours, as I don't pass anything. I'm curious.

>diane

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I don't know about a zapper -- what is that?

I don't know about the kidney deal either -- I would

guess something to do with cranberry juice??

I would like to suggest that you get help FROM your

kids by talking to them and if they are very little,

get your husband or a close friend to stand by with

some assistance. You CAN do this. The cleansing that

I know about -- gall bladder and liver is do able --

for the most part you do a major dump FAST -- not a

hard time like die-off is for me.

I have had to talk to my daughter for YEARS about my

migraines and she has understood what it is like to be

motherless (and fatherless in a sense -- I have been a

single mom since she was an infant). She would bring

me a cold wet cloth and a drink since she was very

young and she learned that she could live LONG on

yogurt if necessary when Mommy was sick. Fortunately,

I would bounce back enough to feed that poor baby soon

enough. However, when I lost my fiance' in 1992, she

made it with an almost vegetative Mommy -- yogurt in

the fridge and cereal in the box sometimes. I was

horrible, but fortunately, I recovered from that

paralyzed time in my life too. She is a very healthy

and outgoing, ambitious daughter who understands that

Moms are fragile and sometimes out of commission. I

am amazed at how resilient she is. What a trooper! I

believe your kids love Mommy enough to understand -- I

am talking as young as 4 years here.

God bless you and your " understanding " kids!

Carolyn :)

--- Nick Grant <nwgrant@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone

>

> has anyone here ever done the liver cleanse? I

> don';t know how I would do

> it with three kids to look after. I am sure I would

> feel very ill! At

> present I have t his bunged up feeling around my

> colon and liver. I know I

> have to do some thing. So...anyone here ever

> zapped? I own a zapper, so I

> could do the parasite thing with that I guess. What

> is the kidney cleanse?

> Can anyone describe it quickly? I don't think that

> was listed with the

> liver cleanse.

>

> I am getting the courage up to do these things - the

> only concern is the

> length of time and how I would function!

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

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cleanse

A kidney cleanse is important before the gallbladder

cleanse so your kidneys don't become overworked

and stressed out. Some persons noted the distress

they felt when they didn't do the kidney cleanse.

Liz D.

,

I don't know about a zapper -- what is that?

I don't know about the kidney deal either -- I would

guess something to do with cranberry juice??

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Good grief

I can't remember all this. First a liver cleanse then a kidney cleanse

then a gall bladder cleanse now I think they just told us how to do the

gall bladder cleanse... my head is spinning

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Oh COOOOME ON LIZ D! Get tough -- don't let that

nasty epsom salts get the best of you -- you are a

candida SURVIVOR, aren't you?! ;)

Carolyn

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> Someone I know on another lists takes her Epson

> salts in

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> capsules and gets great results. I will try that

> method next

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> time because It taste so nasty.

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> LIZ D

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> Re: liver

> cleanse

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> A kidney cleanse is important before the gallbladder

>

>

> cleanse so your kidneys don't become overworked

>

> and stressed out. Some persons noted the distress

>

> they felt when they didn't do the kidney cleanse.

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> Liz D.

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> I don't know about a zapper -- what is that?

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> I don't know about the kidney deal either -- I would

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> guess something to do with cranberry juice??

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> bUcKsNdOeS

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Diane, the liver cleanse is for the gallbladder and liver.

Same cleanse.

Re: liver

cleanse

Good grief

I can't remember all this. First a liver cleanse then a kidney

cleanse

then a gall bladder cleanse now I think

they just told us how to do the

gall bladder cleanse... my head is spinning

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I'm not familiar with this particular cleanse, Sheri, but it's almost the same

as the one I know. The only difference is that you drink more water and it's

mixed with epsom salts for opening the ducts so that the stones can pass easily.

This one only takes a couple of days and you do them at 2-week intervals until

you feel that your system is clean.

Donna

Liver cleanse

Hi Everyone:

It is difficult to know whether one or the other is the reason for the other.

Thus when I said " which came first the chicken or the egg "

I agree with you that the liver must play a huge role. I remember when I first

became sick with hyperthyroidism, according to the blood test my doctor said

that something was going on with my liver.

Actually the hyperthyroidism came a year or so after the back pain which could

have or should have indicated a liver problem but was never diagnosed or worked

on as a liver problem which was the cause of the hyperthyroidism. confusing.

¿Who knows?

Yesterday I started a liver cleanse program (2 tablespoons of extra virgin

olive oil, 1 lemon, juiced, pinch of cayenne, 1/4 slice of ginger (mashed) 2

tablespoons of water.) taken first thing in the morning on an empty stomach,

repeated for 1 week.

Now, even if this liver cleanse does get rid of gall stones or cleanse the

liver my question is ¿Why, How and What caused the liver problem in the first

place? ¿Is recurrence preventable?

I am also one of the very fortunate ones that found s site, that was

about, " can't remember how long ago " 4 or 5 years at least. I know it was before

he created ithyroid. I have thanked him more than once, both written and in my

thoughts for being there. I've never had the opportunity to meet him, but, If I

ever do I will thank him in person.

Have a great day.

P.S.

Tthis stuff tastes awful, especially first thing in the morning. Well no,

especially all the time. Sheri

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Donna do you mix the Epsom Salts with the rest of the ingredients then gulp

it down. ¿How much water?

Sheri

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>I'm not familiar with this particular cleanse, Sheri, but it's almost the

same as the one I know. The only difference is that you drink more water

and it's mixed with epsom salts for opening the ducts so that the stones can

pass easily. This one only takes a couple of days and you do them at 2-week

intervals until you feel that your system is clean.

>

>Donna

>

>

> Liver cleanse

>

>

> Hi Everyone:

>

> It is difficult to know whether one or the other is the reason for the

other. Thus when I said " which came first the chicken or the egg "

>

> I agree with you that the liver must play a huge role. I remember when I

first became sick with hyperthyroidism, according to the blood test my

doctor said that something was going on with my liver.

>

> Actually the hyperthyroidism came a year or so after the back pain which

could have or should have indicated a liver problem but was never diagnosed

or worked on as a liver problem which was the cause of the hyperthyroidism.

confusing. ¿Who knows?

>

> Yesterday I started a liver cleanse program (2 tablespoons of extra

virgin olive oil, 1 lemon, juiced, pinch of cayenne, 1/4 slice of ginger

(mashed) 2 tablespoons of water.) taken first thing in the morning on an

empty stomach, repeated for 1 week.

>

> Now, even if this liver cleanse does get rid of gall stones or cleanse

the liver my question is ¿Why, How and What caused the liver problem in the

first place? ¿Is recurrence preventable?

>

> I am also one of the very fortunate ones that found s site, that was

about, " can't remember how long ago " 4 or 5 years at least. I know it was

before he created ithyroid. I have thanked him more than once, both

written and in my thoughts for being there. I've never had the opportunity

to meet him, but, If I ever do I will thank him in person.

>

> Have a great day.

>

> P.S.

> Tthis stuff tastes awful, especially first thing in the morning. Well no,

especially all the time. Sheri

>

>

>

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I would like to hear more about the liver cleansing process.

Betty

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>

> ,

>

> I kept my epsom salt mixture in the fridge and got it ice cold with

> almost some crystals in it and just gulped it down. I found that

> worked much better and I could barely taste anything because it was

> so cold. You should try it again if you can. And use really good

> grapefruit juice, fresh squeezed and shake like crazy with the olive

> oil. The two went down very easy and I went to sleep, but laying

> there without moving for 20 minutes was the most difficult for me.

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I've done three liver flushes. I got none out the first try either.

The second was successful and the third one produced even more stones.

I've seen many different flushes, which did you do?

> Another tale from the trenches:

>

> I recently had the joy of my first liver/gallstone flush and would

like to

> caution those new to the game to be pretty sure to start no later

than 3 or

> 4 pm. You don'twant to start too early because some people react

very

> quickly to the epsom salts and it would be, shall we say,

uncomfortable at

> best if your first urge to eliminate occurred on the way home from

work or

> the store, as a friend reported.

>

> However, if you start too late, you may have the same problem I

did. After

> my 6th epsom salt drink (and I agree with cynthia about the

refrigeration

> and gulping, and my doc said you could chase with a bit of OJ if

necessary),

> I finally started eliminating. By then, it was around 12:30 a.m.

Thus, after

> I finished the olive oil drink, when I went to lie down as

instructed, I

> found myself still having to run to the john all the time. I think

I finally

> got to sleep around 2 or 3 am. BTW, for some reason, the

experience made me

> extremely gassy, which extended into the next day. My colon therapy

was

> somewhat impeded by all the gas we had to deal with. Has anyone

else had

> this problem?

>

> I intend to do the flush again shortly, as although I was cleaned

out

> entirely, I never did see any stones emerge. I just seem to have

gotten a

> lot of sludge out. I'm wondering whether just getting sludge is

> common...maybe I don't have any stones? I find that hard to

believe . . .

>

> debm.

>

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Yes, I was the same way. No real stones the first time, some

sludge. Second time a few stones. I made the mistake of trying my

first cleanse during the day, since I was going to be at home all

day. I wouldn't recommend that, you want to try to sleep through

most of the uncomfortableness.

nah

> > Another tale from the trenches:

> >

> > I recently had the joy of my first liver/gallstone flush and

would

> like to

> > caution those new to the game to be pretty sure to start no later

> than 3 or

> > 4 pm. You don'twant to start too early because some people react

> very

> > quickly to the epsom salts and it would be, shall we say,

> uncomfortable at

> > best if your first urge to eliminate occurred on the way home

from

> work or

> > the store, as a friend reported.

> >

> > However, if you start too late, you may have the same problem I

> did. After

> > my 6th epsom salt drink (and I agree with cynthia about the

> refrigeration

> > and gulping, and my doc said you could chase with a bit of OJ if

> necessary),

> > I finally started eliminating. By then, it was around 12:30 a.m.

> Thus, after

> > I finished the olive oil drink, when I went to lie down as

> instructed, I

> > found myself still having to run to the john all the time. I

think

> I finally

> > got to sleep around 2 or 3 am. BTW, for some reason, the

> experience made me

> > extremely gassy, which extended into the next day. My colon

therapy

> was

> > somewhat impeded by all the gas we had to deal with. Has anyone

> else had

> > this problem?

> >

> > I intend to do the flush again shortly, as although I was cleaned

> out

> > entirely, I never did see any stones emerge. I just seem to have

> gotten a

> > lot of sludge out. I'm wondering whether just getting sludge is

> > common...maybe I don't have any stones? I find that hard to

> believe . . .

> >

> > debm.

> >

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I would really like to know where to readup on how to do the cleanse

Betty

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Yes, I was the same way. No real stones the first time, some

sludge. Second time a few stones. I made the mistake of trying my

first cleanse during the day, since I was going to be at home all

day. I wouldn't recommend that, you want to try to sleep through

most of the uncomfortableness.

nah

> > Another tale from the trenches:

> >

> > I recently had the joy of my first liver/gallstone flush and

would

> like to

> > caution those new to the game to be pretty sure to start no later

> than 3 or

> > 4 pm. You don'twant to start too early because some people react

> very

> > quickly to the epsom salts and it would be, shall we say,

> uncomfortable at

> > best if your first urge to eliminate occurred on the way home

from

> work or

> > the store, as a friend reported.

> >

> > However, if you start too late, you may have the same problem I

> did. After

> > my 6th epsom salt drink (and I agree with cynthia about the

> refrigeration

> > and gulping, and my doc said you could chase with a bit of OJ if

> necessary),

> > I finally started eliminating. By then, it was around 12:30 a.m.

> Thus, after

> > I finished the olive oil drink, when I went to lie down as

> instructed, I

> > found myself still having to run to the john all the time. I

think

> I finally

> > got to sleep around 2 or 3 am. BTW, for some reason, the

> experience made me

> > extremely gassy, which extended into the next day. My colon

therapy

> was

> > somewhat impeded by all the gas we had to deal with. Has anyone

> else had

> > this problem?

> >

> > I intend to do the flush again shortly, as although I was cleaned

> out

> > entirely, I never did see any stones emerge. I just seem to have

> gotten a

> > lot of sludge out. I'm wondering whether just getting sludge is

> > common...maybe I don't have any stones? I find that hard to

> believe . . .

> >

> > debm.

> >

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Make sure you read up as much as you can...here are a few links.

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=263

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=277

http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T350155.html

http://www.sensiblehealth.com/gallbladder.html

http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=219 & i=811

those should keep you busy :)

If you have any questions, I can tell you which I did, and what

happened.

Rick

> > > Another tale from the trenches:

> > >

> > > I recently had the joy of my first liver/gallstone flush and

> would

> > like to

> > > caution those new to the game to be pretty sure to start no

later

> > than 3 or

> > > 4 pm. You don'twant to start too early because some people

react

> > very

> > > quickly to the epsom salts and it would be, shall we say,

> > uncomfortable at

> > > best if your first urge to eliminate occurred on the way home

> from

> > work or

> > > the store, as a friend reported.

> > >

> > > However, if you start too late, you may have the same problem

I

> > did. After

> > > my 6th epsom salt drink (and I agree with cynthia about the

> > refrigeration

> > > and gulping, and my doc said you could chase with a bit of OJ

if

> > necessary),

> > > I finally started eliminating. By then, it was around 12:30

a.m.

> > Thus, after

> > > I finished the olive oil drink, when I went to lie down as

> > instructed, I

> > > found myself still having to run to the john all the time. I

> think

> > I finally

> > > got to sleep around 2 or 3 am. BTW, for some reason, the

> > experience made me

> > > extremely gassy, which extended into the next day. My colon

> therapy

> > was

> > > somewhat impeded by all the gas we had to deal with. Has

anyone

> > else had

> > > this problem?

> > >

> > > I intend to do the flush again shortly, as although I was

cleaned

> > out

> > > entirely, I never did see any stones emerge. I just seem to

have

> > gotten a

> > > lot of sludge out. I'm wondering whether just getting sludge

is

> > > common...maybe I don't have any stones? I find that hard to

> > believe . . .

> > >

> > > debm.

> > >

>

>

>

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