Re: Radio program on testosterone

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:30:28 -0800, you wrote:

>The very funny and interesting program " This American Life " has a four

>episode program on this week on Testosterone.

>http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=220

>

>You can download a pod cast here:

>http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Podcast.aspx

>

>Stories of people getting more testosterone and coming to regret it.

>And of people losing it and coming to appreciate life without it. The

>pros and cons of the hormone of desire.

Easy way to listen is:

http://thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Archive.aspx?year=2002

Look at August 30.

You can listen for free.

[Guest guest]

Well, this program was amusing, but I don't really see much relevance

to the group, other than perhaps the extreme case of zero testosterone

production and its affect on mood the first segment highlighted.

I appreciate the link, though. It was good listening material while

at the gym this morning.

On Feb 23, 2008, at 11:30 AM, retrogrouch@... wrote:

> The very funny and interesting program " This American Life " has a four

> episode program on this week on Testosterone.

> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=220

>

> You can download a pod cast here:

> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Podcast.aspx

>

> Stories of people getting more testosterone and coming to regret it.

> And of people losing it and coming to appreciate life without it. The

> pros and cons of the hormone of desire.

>

> Prologue.

>

> This American Life producer Blumberg explains that he wanted to

> do this show because of his conflicted relationship with his own

> testosterone. He tells host Ira Glass that the reasons go back to a

> girl in his eighth-grade homeroom and the 1970s seminal feminist novel

> The Women's Room. We also hear from a man who stopped producing

> testosterone due to a medical treatment and found that his entire

> personality was altered. (9 minutes)

>

> Act One. Life at Zero.

>

> The interview with a man who lost his testosterone continues. He

> explains that life without testosterone is life without desire—desire

> for everything: food, conversation, even TV. And he says life without

> desire is unexpectedly pleasant. The man first wrote about his

> experiences, anonymously, in GQ Magazine. (7 minutes)

>

> Act Two. Infinite Gent.

>

> An interview with Hansbury, who started life as a woman, but

> began taking massive testosterone injections seven years ago, and now

> lives as a man. He explains how testosterone changed his views on

> nature vs. nurture for good. (17 minutes)

>

> Song: " To Sir With Love, " Lulu

>

>

> Act Three. Contest-osterone.

>

> The men and women on staff at This American Life decide to get their

> testosterone levels tested, to see who has the most and least, and to

> see if personality traits actually do match up with hormone levels. It

> turns out to be an exercise that in retrospect, we might not recommend

> to other close-knit groups of friends or co-workers. (12 minutes)

>

> Song: " What Kind of Man Are You?, " Ray

>

>

> Act Four. Learning to Shut Up.

>

> Novelist Miriam Toews, author of The X Letters (which appeared in an

> earlier episode of the show), tells the story of a recent road trip

> she took with her fifteen-year-old son. (11 minutes)

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Listened to the interesting program as I wanted to understand whatever

might be attributed to various levels of T.

I have been receiving a significant amount of T via hormone pellets

since 1991 at age 60. At that time the fat under my skin increased in

thickness making my face and neck appear more youthful. The waddle

under my chin became less thin which would normally be identified with

an aged man. The thin skin on my arms returned to more youthful in

appearance. My thought patterns were very different and I received an

immediate improvement in my response to females and their movements

under a dress or a dress blowing up in the wind to the point of almost

an electric shock. Surprised by this effect from what I see as only a

chemical intervening in my thoughts and personality.

Listening to the comments, I wonder now if my voice which many say

sounds youthful at age 76 could be due to the high level of T as well.

ernestnolan

>

> The very funny and interesting program " This American Life " has a four

> episode program on this week on Testosterone.

> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=220

>

> You can download a pod cast here:

> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Podcast.aspx

>

> Stories of people getting more testosterone and coming to regret it.

> And of people losing it and coming to appreciate life without it. The

> pros and cons of the hormone of desire.

>

> Prologue.

>

> This American Life producer Blumberg explains that he wanted to

> do this show because of his conflicted relationship with his own

> testosterone. He tells host Ira Glass that the reasons go back to a

> girl in his eighth-grade homeroom and the 1970s seminal feminist novel

> The Women's Room. We also hear from a man who stopped producing

> testosterone due to a medical treatment and found that his entire

> personality was altered. (9 minutes)

>

> Act One. Life at Zero.

>

> The interview with a man who lost his testosterone continues. He

> explains that life without testosterone is life without desire—desire

> for everything: food, conversation, even TV. And he says life without

> desire is unexpectedly pleasant. The man first wrote about his

> experiences, anonymously, in GQ Magazine. (7 minutes)

>

> Act Two. Infinite Gent.

>

> An interview with Hansbury, who started life as a woman, but

> began taking massive testosterone injections seven years ago, and now

> lives as a man. He explains how testosterone changed his views on

> nature vs. nurture for good. (17 minutes)

>

> Song: " To Sir With Love, " Lulu

>

>

> Act Three. Contest-osterone.

>

> The men and women on staff at This American Life decide to get their

> testosterone levels tested, to see who has the most and least, and to

> see if personality traits actually do match up with hormone levels. It

> turns out to be an exercise that in retrospect, we might not recommend

> to other close-knit groups of friends or co-workers. (12 minutes)

>

> Song: " What Kind of Man Are You?, " Ray

>

>

> Act Four. Learning to Shut Up.

>

> Novelist Miriam Toews, author of The X Letters (which appeared in an

> earlier episode of the show), tells the story of a recent road trip

> she took with her fifteen-year-old son. (11 minutes)

>

[Guest guest]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:59:45 -0800, you wrote:

>Well, this program was amusing, but I don't really see much relevance

>to the group, other than perhaps the extreme case of zero testosterone

>production and its affect on mood the first segment highlighted.

>

>I appreciate the link, though. It was good listening material while

>at the gym this morning.

I found the second segment interesting also. A lesbian who took T for

sex characteristics changes and masculization. To have a female

perspective on the changes T brought and as the levels escalated were

interesting I thought.

>

>

>On Feb 23, 2008, at 11:30 AM, retrogrouch@... wrote:

>

>> The very funny and interesting program " This American Life " has a four

>> episode program on this week on Testosterone.

>> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=220

>>

>> You can download a pod cast here:

>> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Podcast.aspx

>>

>> Stories of people getting more testosterone and coming to regret it.

>> And of people losing it and coming to appreciate life without it. The

>> pros and cons of the hormone of desire.

>>

>> Prologue.

>>

>> This American Life producer Blumberg explains that he wanted to

>> do this show because of his conflicted relationship with his own

>> testosterone. He tells host Ira Glass that the reasons go back to a

>> girl in his eighth-grade homeroom and the 1970s seminal feminist novel

>> The Women's Room. We also hear from a man who stopped producing

>> testosterone due to a medical treatment and found that his entire

>> personality was altered. (9 minutes)

>>

>> Act One. Life at Zero.

>>

>> The interview with a man who lost his testosterone continues. He

>> explains that life without testosterone is life without desire—desire

>> for everything: food, conversation, even TV. And he says life without

>> desire is unexpectedly pleasant. The man first wrote about his

>> experiences, anonymously, in GQ Magazine. (7 minutes)

>>

>> Act Two. Infinite Gent.

>>

>> An interview with Hansbury, who started life as a woman, but

>> began taking massive testosterone injections seven years ago, and now

>> lives as a man. He explains how testosterone changed his views on

>> nature vs. nurture for good. (17 minutes)

>>

>> Song: " To Sir With Love, " Lulu

>>

>>

>> Act Three. Contest-osterone.

>>

>> The men and women on staff at This American Life decide to get their

>> testosterone levels tested, to see who has the most and least, and to

>> see if personality traits actually do match up with hormone levels. It

>> turns out to be an exercise that in retrospect, we might not recommend

>> to other close-knit groups of friends or co-workers. (12 minutes)

>>

>> Song: " What Kind of Man Are You?, " Ray

>>

>>

>> Act Four. Learning to Shut Up.

>>

>> Novelist Miriam Toews, author of The X Letters (which appeared in an

>> earlier episode of the show), tells the story of a recent road trip

>> she took with her fifteen-year-old son. (11 minutes)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I found this very good and amusing a different light on Testosterone.

retrogrouch@... wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:59:45 -0800, you

wrote:

>Well, this program was amusing, but I don't really see much relevance

>to the group, other than perhaps the extreme case of zero testosterone

>production and its affect on mood the first segment highlighted.

>

>I appreciate the link, though. It was good listening material while

>at the gym this morning.

I found the second segment interesting also. A lesbian who took T for

sex characteristics changes and masculization. To have a female

perspective on the changes T brought and as the levels escalated were

interesting I thought.

>

>

>On Feb 23, 2008, at 11:30 AM, retrogrouch@... wrote:

>

>> The very funny and interesting program " This American Life " has a four

>> episode program on this week on Testosterone.

>> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=220

>>

>> You can download a pod cast here:

>> http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Podcast.aspx

>>

>> Stories of people getting more testosterone and coming to regret it.

>> And of people losing it and coming to appreciate life without it. The

>> pros and cons of the hormone of desire.

>>

>> Prologue.

>>

>> This American Life producer Blumberg explains that he wanted to

>> do this show because of his conflicted relationship with his own

>> testosterone. He tells host Ira Glass that the reasons go back to a

>> girl in his eighth-grade homeroom and the 1970s seminal feminist novel

>> The Women's Room. We also hear from a man who stopped producing

>> testosterone due to a medical treatment and found that his entire

>> personality was altered. (9 minutes)

>>

>> Act One. Life at Zero.

>>

>> The interview with a man who lost his testosterone continues. He

>> explains that life without testosterone is life without desire—desire

>> for everything: food, conversation, even TV. And he says life without

>> desire is unexpectedly pleasant. The man first wrote about his

>> experiences, anonymously, in GQ Magazine. (7 minutes)

>>

>> Act Two. Infinite Gent.

>>

>> An interview with Hansbury, who started life as a woman, but

>> began taking massive testosterone injections seven years ago, and now

>> lives as a man. He explains how testosterone changed his views on

>> nature vs. nurture for good. (17 minutes)

>>

>> Song: " To Sir With Love, " Lulu

>>

>>

>> Act Three. Contest-osterone.

>>

>> The men and women on staff at This American Life decide to get their

>> testosterone levels tested, to see who has the most and least, and to

>> see if personality traits actually do match up with hormone levels. It

>> turns out to be an exercise that in retrospect, we might not recommend

>> to other close-knit groups of friends or co-workers. (12 minutes)

>>

>> Song: " What Kind of Man Are You?, " Ray

>>

>>

>> Act Four. Learning to Shut Up.

>>

>> Novelist Miriam Toews, author of The X Letters (which appeared in an

>> earlier episode of the show), tells the story of a recent road trip

>> she took with her fifteen-year-old son. (11 minutes)

>>

>>

>>

>>

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