Fever

[Guest guest]

Toni, I have the fever, joint pain and chills quite often also. It

usually hits me right before I have a flare, I look at it

as " notification of upcoming events, " gives me time to prepare for

the inevitable. I can get through it with just Tramadol and Tylenol

for the fever. Let me know what your rheumy says about it.

Thanks

Ann

>

> Ok today I have not felt myself. By dinnertime I had 102.3 fever

and no

> other symtoms other than fever, joint pain and chills. I took two

extra strength

> Tylenol and all my symtoms are gone within 2 hrs. This is

strange. So is

> this what they call a RA flare?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi...

I understand that the fever is usually a sign that I am going to have a flare

up. So was the case this week, as Sunday I felt like...well...we all know. I was

running a fever, and could barely walk...seems my OA flares up right before I

have an RA flare up. I had to take the only RX pain med I

tolerate...oxycodone...and attemp to stay off my leg. Luckily my fever didn't go

as high...only to 100.5... but still not comfortable...as my normal body temp is

97.3...so it would be like running over a 101 degree temp if you have a normal

98.6 body temp. Monday and Tuesday were no fun as the hip was extremely

stiff...and just my luck I had to go grocery shopping and Christmas shopping

with my mother in law at Sams and Walmart. I was extremely sore last night and

went to my bedroom to lay down before 7 pm. I had ice packs on my knees and a

heating pad on my hip for relief from the pain.

Tomorrow I get to fly to Houston to go see my wife...whom I have not seen in two

weeks...to go to her company's Christmas party. I am going to chance not wearing

my knee brace as it makes passing thru security at the airports very

difficult...as they make me take it off...and then I have to find a bathroom so

I can put it back on again. Way too much of a pain. The there is never enough

leg room on the planes so it is uncomfortable to wear it on the plane. So I

think I will skip wearing it all together and just hope my legs hold out for the

day.

Well..hope everyone has a nice holiday season...one free of too much pain I hope

and pray!!

Larry in New Orleans

eaprescott <aphillips@...> wrote:

Toni, I have the fever, joint pain and chills quite often also. It

usually hits me right before I have a flare, I look at it

as " notification of upcoming events, " gives me time to prepare for

the inevitable. I can get through it with just Tramadol and Tylenol

for the fever. Let me know what your rheumy says about it.

Thanks

Ann

>

> Ok today I have not felt myself. By dinnertime I had 102.3 fever

and no

> other symtoms other than fever, joint pain and chills. I took two

extra strength

> Tylenol and all my symtoms are gone within 2 hrs. This is

strange. So is

> this what they call a RA flare?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I get fevers too but not that high because I keep lower than normal temps.

Remember to take it easy and don't over do it at that time. It's a warning

singnal...

Blessings,

April

eaprescott <aphillips@...> wrote:

Toni, I have the fever, joint pain and chills quite often also. It

usually hits me right before I have a flare, I look at it

as " notification of upcoming events, " gives me time to prepare for

the inevitable. I can get through it with just Tramadol and Tylenol

for the fever. Let me know what your rheumy says about it.

Thanks

Ann

>

> Ok today I have not felt myself. By dinnertime I had 102.3 fever

and no

> other symtoms other than fever, joint pain and chills. I took two

extra strength

> Tylenol and all my symtoms are gone within 2 hrs. This is

strange. So is

> this what they call a RA flare?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry,

I'm so sorry, do you have a Handicapped status?? I knowing flying first class

(last minute) does not cost that much to bump up to first class if it is open

and gives you more leg room. But don't do it until you get up to where they

take your luggage.

I was in a flare last January for my daughter's wedding in Las Vegas and they

bumped us off the plane!!! I had to sleep on the floor at the LV airport on my

coat. They didn't care and they wouldn't give out pillows or blankets at all.

Most miserable trip of my life except for the wedding!

Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year.

Larry Holmack <bichondaddy1057@...> wrote:

Hi...

I understand that the fever is usually a sign that I am going to have a flare

up. So was the case this week, as Sunday I felt like...well...we all know. I was

running a fever, and could barely walk...seems my OA flares up right before I

have an RA flare up. I had to take the only RX pain med I

tolerate...oxycodone...and attemp to stay off my leg. Luckily my fever didn't go

as high...only to 100.5... but still not comfortable...as my normal body temp is

97.3...so it would be like running over a 101 degree temp if you have a normal

98.6 body temp. Monday and Tuesday were no fun as the hip was extremely

stiff...and just my luck I had to go grocery shopping and Christmas shopping

with my mother in law at Sams and Walmart. I was extremely sore last night and

went to my bedroom to lay down before 7 pm. I had ice packs on my knees and a

heating pad on my hip for relief from the pain.

Tomorrow I get to fly to Houston to go see my wife...whom I have not seen in two

weeks...to go to her company's Christmas party. I am going to chance not wearing

my knee brace as it makes passing thru security at the airports very

difficult...as they make me take it off...and then I have to find a bathroom so

I can put it back on again. Way too much of a pain. The there is never enough

leg room on the planes so it is uncomfortable to wear it on the plane. So I

think I will skip wearing it all together and just hope my legs hold out for the

day.

Well..hope everyone has a nice holiday season...one free of too much pain I hope

and pray!!

Larry in New Orleans

eaprescott wrote:

Toni, I have the fever, joint pain and chills quite often also. It

usually hits me right before I have a flare, I look at it

as " notification of upcoming events, " gives me time to prepare for

the inevitable. I can get through it with just Tramadol and Tylenol

for the fever. Let me know what your rheumy says about it.

Thanks

Ann

>

> Ok today I have not felt myself. By dinnertime I had 102.3 fever

and no

> other symtoms other than fever, joint pain and chills. I took two

extra strength

> Tylenol and all my symtoms are gone within 2 hrs. This is

strange. So is

> this what they call a RA flare?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Toni, I'm not sure what the fever was about. I'm glad to hear it's

gone though. Usually, with a flare you have a lot of joint pain, and

swelling, or I sure do. I have notice a fever is with me every night

now.

I do think you need to find a good rheumy, maybe someone can help you

with one in your area on the group, hugs Tawny

>

> Ok today I have not felt myself. By dinnertime I had 102.3 fever

and no

> other symtoms other than fever, joint pain and chills. I took two

extra strength

> Tylenol and all my symtoms are gone within 2 hrs. This is

strange. So is

> this what they call a RA flare?

>

> I guess I wait until morning to see if any other symtoms appear. I

am not in

> the mood to make a trip to see my useless rheummy. I know all he

wants to do

> is cram drugs down my throat.

>

> Oh there was a show on TV tonight talking about the Toxic effects

if Arava,

> Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex and a few other meds. And How people want

the drugs

> pulled from the market due to deaths caused by toxicity of these

meds but the

> FDA will not pull them. Hmmm....I am so glad I am NOT on any

meds!!!! Too much

> drama for me!

>

> Toni

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fever is one of the many symptoms I used to persuade a Non Literate MD to treat

me for Lyme. I have been on many Abx and still run a fever.

I watch a lot of PBS the Public television show. They have had a number of

shows on Munch by Proxie over the twenty some odd years I have watched.

That is one strange Illness. I have seen where they put cameras in the room

where they suspect this problem with mothers. One of the most common things

they found them doing was putting a pillow over the childs face until they

stopped moving.

Very scary stuff.

Pamela Beeth <

pbeeth@...> wrote:

" vibranthelen " <vibranthelen@...> wrote:

" Hi All,

How many of you are using the salt/C protocol? It seems to be helping many

people. I have not been off of abx since 1993 and have been on IV abx many

times as well. Now I am on IV rocephin for quite a long time and was also on

IV zithro too but stopped due to cost, it isn't covered. I just posted for

the first time about a week or so ago, I'm the one who has had a fever for 3

straight years. ... "

Within 5 month of my taking Zithromax, my fever started and continued until

I stopped the Zithromax at 13 months. Either the abx or the fever or both,

sapped all my energy. It took me about 3 months to return to my former

state of limited strength and energy.

I learned from my sister, an ER nurse, that most ER nurses know that long

term abx will cause fever. I ask her how they learned that when my doctors

never told me that was a possibility. She said that mothers who bring their

children into the ER with the only complaint of fever are often people with

Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy. They have gone from doctor to doctor

getting antibiotics for the child but saving them up until they have enough

to put the child on them for long enough to cause the fever. Then they can

enjoy the attention they crave-- at the expense of their children.

[Guest guest]

Sue wrote:

>

> is running a low grade fever a healing reaction?

==>Yes, a fever is a healing reaction. It is a mechanism used by the

immune system to affect healing, kill off pathogens and to get rid of

toxins. A fever is very helpful for healing, and has even been

purposely induced to treat cancer.

>

> Before i began the diet last year i was running a 99. temp with

alot of leg pains went to the dr and he diagnosed me with over growth

of yeast from all of the anti's i was on. I went on his version of

the diet and acidolophis and the fever went away.

>

> I got this under control by novemberish and then blew it in dec

with> diet and went on anti's in february and got terrible. I tried

> threelac from march to june 6th and never felt good the entire

time. I began this diet 2 weeks ago and a lot of things are much

better but now im feverish. I am really tired of being tired and

sickly and want this to kick in. I understand time is of the essence,

but how long?

>

> I have probably had this forever!

==>Sue, it takes one month of healing for every year you've been

sick. I went through h_ll too, but cured my candida in 2-1/2 years

after having it for over 25 years - see Bee's Personal Candida Story

in the files (after the folders).

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

At the top left hand of your page do you see a box that has the

following inside of it?

Home

Messages

Post

Files <======= click on this and it will take you to an incredible

Photos file assortment with everything you want to know about

Links curing Candida that Bee has research so well for all of

Database us to glean from.

Polls

Calendar

Hope this helps. :-)

Debra NW

susan krukas <tauttodream@...> wrote:

bee,

i wich i could figure out how to use this whole thing. The

only way i can find folders is at the end of someone's mail i click o

n articls under this topic. I cannot find your personal story. any

help you can offer i would appreciate.

Thanks

Sue

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

Sue wrote:

is running a low grade fever a healing reaction?

==>Yes, a fever is a healing reaction. It is a mechanism used by the

immune system to affect healing, kill off pathogens and to get rid of

toxins. A fever is very helpful for healing, and has even been

purposely induced to treat cancer.

Before i began the diet last year i was running a 99. temp with

alot of leg pains went to the dr and he diagnosed me with over

growth of yeast from all of the anti's i was on. I went on his

version of the diet and acidolophis and the fever went away.

I got this under control by novemberish and then blew it in dec

with> diet and went on anti's in february and got terrible. I tried

threelac from march to june 6th and never felt good the entire

time. I began this diet 2 weeks ago and a lot of things are much

better but now im feverish. I am really tired of being tired and

sickly and want this to kick in. I understand time is of the essence,

but how long?

I have probably had this forever!

==>Sue, it takes one month of healing for every year you've been

sick. I went through h_ll too, but cured my candida in 2-1/2 years

after having it for over 25 years - see Bee's Personal Candida Story

in the files (after the folders).

[Guest guest]

no i dont have that on the top left side. I have mail sent draft.... that's

where i am lost

sue : (

wee_steps <wee_steps@...> wrote:

Hi Sue,

At the top left hand of your page do you see a box that has the

following inside of it?

Home

Messages

Post

Files <======= click on this and it will take you to an incredible

Photos file assortment with everything you want to know about

Links curing Candida that Bee has research so well for all of

Database us to glean from.

Polls

Calendar

Hope this helps. :-)

Debra NW

susan krukas <tauttodream@...> wrote:

bee,

i wich i could figure out how to use this whole thing. The

only way i can find folders is at the end of someone's mail i click o

n articls under this topic. I cannot find your personal story. any

help you can offer i would appreciate.

Thanks

Sue

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

Sue wrote:

is running a low grade fever a healing reaction?

==>Yes, a fever is a healing reaction. It is a mechanism used by the

immune system to affect healing, kill off pathogens and to get rid of

toxins. A fever is very helpful for healing, and has even been

purposely induced to treat cancer.

Before i began the diet last year i was running a 99. temp with

alot of leg pains went to the dr and he diagnosed me with over

growth of yeast from all of the anti's i was on. I went on his

version of the diet and acidolophis and the fever went away.

I got this under control by novemberish and then blew it in dec

with> diet and went on anti's in february and got terrible. I tried

threelac from march to june 6th and never felt good the entire

time. I began this diet 2 weeks ago and a lot of things are much

better but now im feverish. I am really tired of being tired and

sickly and want this to kick in. I understand time is of the essence,

but how long?

I have probably had this forever!

==>Sue, it takes one month of healing for every year you've been

sick. I went through h_ll too, but cured my candida in 2-1/2 years

after having it for over 25 years - see Bee's Personal Candida Story

in the files (after the folders).

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Sue wrote:

> bee, i wich i could figure out how to use this whole thing.

The only way i can find folders is at the end of someone's mail i click

o n articls under this topic. I cannot find your personal story. any

help you can offer i would appreciate.

==>Sue, you cannot access our files from your email. You need to go to

our actual group on :

==>Sign In and you will be on the Home Page. Look to the left where

there is a menu - one is Files, click and you will see the folders and

files. Folders are first, and then files, but within each folder are a

number of files. For a list of all of the folders & files see " A)

Candida - LIST of Files, Folders & Links " .

Bee

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> Hi Bee, I went out to eat at outback steakhouse last nite, I had

bbq chichen. I woke up this morning with a sore throat, low grade

fever, fatigue, diahera, fuzzy head. I have not have these symtoms

since the beginning of this diet. I don't know if I am coming down

with a cold. What is your thought?

==>Obviously you consumed something that wasn't okay, which was most

likely in the BBQ sauce. Your symptoms are healing symptoms because

your body is trying hard to get rid of the toxins. A cold is not an

infection, it is detoxifying symptoms.

> Should I hold back on probiotic until I feel better. this

> is my 6 weeks on diet and am cosuming 5-6 tbs of coconut oil daily

with other antifungal. I thought I have no more die off symtoms

until today.

==>Yes, you could take a few days helping your body detoxify by

having plenty of good soup or bone broths, esp. chicken soup, lots of

eggs, epsom salt baths, clove tea (to aid detoxifying), etc. as

recommended in my article.

>

> My girlfriend notice the improvement in my rosacea. She wants to

go on this diet to loose weight. Is it advisable for her to join

this group and be on this diet? She have gall bladder stone and 2

blood clots on her legs.

==>That's wonderful how your rosacea is improving. Well done !

==>Low carbs always helps a person lose weight, and " good " fats

recommended do not create body fat, in fact they help your body lose

weight. Yes your friend could do this diet, which isn't only for

candida because it is a natural healing diet. She needs to start on

coconut oil at low doses, along with butter, to start priming her

gall bladder and liver to function better - this diet will not

increase stones for sure, and if given enough time it will dissolve

them. The best natural clot busters are the antifungals recommended,

i.e. oil of oregano, clove oil, and garlic, but if she is taking

blood thinners she needs to cut back on them when starting on natural

ones.

> My family thought my face looks less red, and thought my rosacea

look only like sun tan. I wonder how long will take for all the

redness to disappear.

==>How long? It takes one month of natural healing for every year

you've had it. Natural healing starts when you are totally following

the diet and taking all of the supplements.

The best,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Mortrin is the same as advil, right?

On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Cheleta wrote:

> I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim

> worked for us.

>

> ________________________________

> From: " diamond12345@... " <diamond12345@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

> Subject: [ ] Fever

>

>

> I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not

> break. Still 102.6

> I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will

> probably try it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never

> gets fevers usually. She actually never gets sick, but I guess her

> immune system is working better.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim worked for us.

________________________________

From: " diamond12345@... " <diamond12345@...>

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

Subject: [ ] Fever

 

I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not break. Still

102.6

I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will probably try

it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never gets fevers usually. She

actually never gets sick, but I guess her immune system is working better.

[Guest guest]

This is what the DAN said:

Do not use Tylenol.  Not only is it usually ineffective, but it is actually a

risky medication as it can affect the liver and detoxification.

________________________________

From: " diamond12345@... " <diamond12345@...>

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

Subject: [ ] Fever

 

I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not break. Still

102.6

I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will probably try

it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never gets fevers usually. She

actually never gets sick, but I guess her immune system is working better.

[Guest guest]

I have never heard of that being mentioned.

________________________________

From: " diamond12345@... " <diamond12345@...>

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:28:25 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Fever

 

Mortrin is the same as advil, right?

On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Cheleta wrote:

> I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim

> worked for us.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: " diamond12345@ sbcglobal. net " <diamond12345@ sbcglobal. net>

>

> Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

> Subject: [ ] Fever

>

>

> I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not

> break. Still 102.6

> I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will

> probably try it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never

> gets fevers usually. She actually never gets sick, but I guess her

> immune system is working better.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, they are both ibuprofen.

Have you tried putting her in a warm (not hot) bath? Also cool compresses on

her head and body?

I used to alternate Tylenol and Motrin but have been trying to stay away from

Tylenol lately. It's scary when your kid has a high fever though.

We have flu now at our house too. And even though I know a lot of the info

going around now is hype, I am still a little spooked about it.

>

> > I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim

> > worked for us.

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " diamond12345@... " <diamond12345@...>

> >

> > Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Fever

> >

> >

> > I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not

> > break. Still 102.6

> > I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will

> > probably try it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never

> > gets fevers usually. She actually never gets sick, but I guess her

> > immune system is working better.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks. She is looking like she is getting better already.

On Oct 30, 2009, at 5:07 PM, khieken wrote:

> Yes, they are both ibuprofen.

>

> Have you tried putting her in a warm (not hot) bath? Also cool

> compresses on her head and body?

>

> I used to alternate Tylenol and Motrin but have been trying to stay

> away from Tylenol lately. It's scary when your kid has a high fever

> though.

>

> We have flu now at our house too. And even though I know a lot of

> the info going around now is hype, I am still a little spooked

> about it.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim

> > > worked for us.

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " diamond12345@... " <diamond12345@...>

> > >

> > > Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

> > > Subject: [ ] Fever

> > >

> > >

> > > I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not

> > > break. Still 102.6

> > > I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will

> > > probably try it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She

> never

> > > gets fevers usually. She actually never gets sick, but I guess her

> > > immune system is working better.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Tylenol reduces glutathione levels . . .

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/tylenol_depletes_glutathione.html

>

> > I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim

> > worked for us.

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: " diamond12345@ sbcglobal. net " <diamond12345@ sbcglobal. net>

> >

> > Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Fever

> >

> >

> > I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not

> > break. Still 102.6

> > I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will

> > probably try it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never

> > gets fevers usually. She actually never gets sick, but I guess her

> > immune system is working better.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

And then, if you are already gluatathione deficient, I wonder if Tylenol would

then be potentially toxic because you don't have the available glutathione to

detoxify/process it?

pam

> >

> > > I used tylenol, and this group and the DAN said not to. Motrim

> > > worked for us.

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: " diamond12345@ sbcglobal. net " <diamond12345@ sbcglobal. net>

> > >

> > > Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 12:26:59 PM

> > > Subject: [ ] Fever

> > >

> > >

> > > I gave 500mg. of tylenol and it has been an hour. Fever did not

> > > break. Still 102.6

> > > I gave tylenol because I don't get good results with advil. I will

> > > probably try it again after a few hours. Any suggestions? She never

> > > gets fevers usually. She actually never gets sick, but I guess her

> > > immune system is working better.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

At 08:36 PM 5/9/2010, Joe wrote:

> " ...My children and others in our family routinely ran fevers

>attaining anywhere from 103 - 105 with no ill effects other than

>feeling lousy... "

It is often beneficial to buttress fevers with added heat. Problems

are rare as long as hydration and electrolytes are attended to and

" medicines " are avoided.

[Guest guest]

Hello Suzanne,

A fever can be a detoxifying symptom. Are you on the full program, and for how

long? Are you doing any extra treatments?

best,

andra

group moderator

>

> i seem to run a fever daily. is that common with this? I am a bit concerned. I

sometimes get dizzy too.

>

> suzanne

>

[Guest guest]

>

> i seem to run a fever daily. is that common with this? I am a bit concerned. I

sometimes get dizzy too.

>

+++Hi Suzanne,

Like andra advised you can get a fever as part of the detoxifying and

healing processes. You can also get dizzy for the same reason. Flushing out

and getting rid of toxins like anesthetics, drugs, alcohol, etc. will cause

dizzyness and disorientation.

Ensure you are only taking the supplements recommended, in the correct doses and

the correct kinds, and that you are following the diet carefully too.

Also if you have ever had those symptoms in the past your body will be retracing

them while it is healing itself. Anyone who has gotten drunk in the past will

also retrace their hangovers, etc. - not that I think you ever had alcohol -

see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

All the best, Bee