Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Friends, I am a new member of this group, and I heard about this drug from a doctor, who practices both alopathic, and alternative medicine. Below is a brief description of the case for which this drug is considered as a part of the treatment protocol. My 80 year old father was diagnosed with the squamous cell carcinoma on the left chick that was surgically removed 2 years ago. Four months ago he discovered some swelling behind the left ear. MRI showed metastases in multiple lymphatic nodes of the left salivary (parotid) gland infiltrated into some surrounded tissues. The did the biopsy in July that confirmed the stage IV SCC diagnosis. The surgery was done on 8/6. The gland and some surrounding tissues along with a part of facial nerve were removed. No distant metastasis has been found. We were told that radiotherapy was absolutely necessary, and my father will start it in a week. He is still in a very good physical shape (takes only avalite, meclizin, and baby aspirin) and walks daily several miles, but after the surgery fatigue is very noticeable. He also follows a healthy mostly vegetarian diet (simplified Budwig), takes oleander extract, essiac tea, and some ayurvedic preparations. Has someone had some information/experience with this type of cancer? We would greatly appreciate any comments or advice, especially if it's based on personal experience. Best Regards, Nekto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 That's the kind of doctor I'd like to find if I had cancer. I think nutrition can have a significant impact on beating cancer, too. One nutrition problem I see is the use of meal replacements. Cancer patients usually lose their sense appetite and sense of smell and taste become distorted. So, they pump meal replacements, that are usually a soy base, into the patient, which further destroys their immune system. One of the last taste senses to go is the sweet. So, sweet foods still taste good. Everything I've read says sugar feeds cancer. Usually they tell patients to stay away from crucifers because of the vitamin K in the green ones. The patient may well be on blood thinners because of a blood clot caused by the cancer or the treatment. Conventional medical professionals too often think the chemicals are so much more powerful that the nutrition. Its very sad. I know someone who had a rare cancer that was always terminal. No one has ever lived more than 5 years with it, and 80% of those that contract it die within 2.5 years. She thought as long as doctor was in touch with MD , that was her best bet. A Cancer Treatment Center of America was in her backyard, and she refused to go. She lived just over 3 years with the disease and we were hopeful that she might be the first. She died of a heart attack at age 38, probably caused by the chemo because chemo is so hard on your heart. Hind sight shows what a blessing her heart attack was because her parents never had to go through hospice and watching her totally deteriorate. I'm with ! From: nutrition [mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of E. A. Hamel Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:26 AM nutrition Subject: Cancer Treatment This is an interesting thread. There is a doctor here who doesn't use the politcally correct, approved chemo and radiation, and he has a much higher success rate than the huge medical industry at the medical center here. The AMA and cancer industry tried to shut him down a few years ago, and filed charges against him. The first trial ended in a mistrial, and he was acquitted the second time. His patients came in and were his witnesses - incredible success, no illness or destroyed immune system from the treatment. He is now doing his treatment under the supervision of the FDA, as clinical trials, and they are on the FDA's website for clinical trials. They told me this treatment is being used in other countries, but he's the only one in the US who is using it. I had a lymphoma scare this year, and talked to them, and researched treatments. Chemo/radiation has about a 50% cure rate, and if you're over 60 it goes way down, in large part because older people can't tolerate the treatment. This doctor has about a 90%+ cure rate. It's close to 100% if someone hasn't had chemo/radiation first. The cure rate is reduced quite a bit if someone has had chemo/radiation before going to him. His treatment, as I understand it, is one treatment that turns off the genes that produce the cancer, and another that turns on the genes that fight the cancer, and it takes about 4-6 months. This is where I'd go if I ever had cancer. Hamel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 My mother had a form a pancreatic cancer which is usually terminal in 6 months. With chemo/radiation she had 4 good enjoyable years after her diagnosis and died at age 89. So, each person may have a different experience. Cancer Treatment This is an interesting thread. There is a doctor here who doesn't use the politcally correct, approved chemo and radiation, and he has a much higher success rate than the huge medical industry at the medical center here. The AMA and cancer industry tried to shut him down a few years ago, and filed charges against him. The first trial ended in a mistrial, and he was acquitted the second time. His patients came in and were his witnesses - incredible success, no illness or destroyed immune system from the treatment. He is now doing his treatment under the supervision of the FDA, as clinical trials, and they are on the FDA's website for clinical trials. They told me this treatment is being used in other countries, but he's the only one in the US who is using it. I had a lymphoma scare this year, and talked to them, and researched treatments. Chemo/radiation has about a 50% cure rate, and if you're over 60 it goes way down, in large part because older people can't tolerate the treatment. This doctor has about a 90%+ cure rate. It's close to 100% if someone hasn't had chemo/radiation first. The cure rate is reduced quite a bit if someone has had chemo/radiation before going to him. His treatment, as I understand it, is one treatment that turns off the genes that produce the cancer, and another that turns on the genes that fight the cancer, and it takes about 4-6 months. This is where I'd go if I ever had cancer. Hamel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm very sorry for your loss . I'm not sure how what happened to your mother relates to my friend. My friend probably would have died sooner without treatment as well. She may have lived longer with less chemo and more complimentary therapies, also. Those are both guesses, but I don't think they are wild assumptions. The kind of cancer is a HUGE part of the story. I've heard less than 5% of women die of breast cancer now. 20 years ago, less than 5% survived 5 years after diagnosis. Liver cancer used to be a certain death sentence, but not anymore. Pancreatic cancer patients are living longer all the time because more people are getting it, so more money is being invested in more research. The orphan cancers are and always will be hopeless. Not enough lives to be saved to do the research. Kathy From: nutrition [mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of SeaDruid Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:24 PM nutrition Subject: Re: Cancer Treatment My mother had a form a pancreatic cancer which is usually terminal in 6 months. With chemo/radiation she had 4 good enjoyable years after her diagnosis and died at age 89. So, each person may have a different experience. Cancer Treatment This is an interesting thread. There is a doctor here who doesn't use the politcally correct, approved chemo and radiation, and he has a much higher success rate than the huge medical industry at the medical center here. The AMA and cancer industry tried to shut him down a few years ago, and filed charges against him. The first trial ended in a mistrial, and he was acquitted the second time. His patients came in and were his witnesses - incredible success, no illness or destroyed immune system from the treatment. He is now doing his treatment under the supervision of the FDA, as clinical trials, and they are on the FDA's website for clinical trials. They told me this treatment is being used in other countries, but he's the only one in the US who is using it. I had a lymphoma scare this year, and talked to them, and researched treatments. Chemo/radiation has about a 50% cure rate, and if you're over 60 it goes way down, in large part because older people can't tolerate the treatment. This doctor has about a 90%+ cure rate. It's close to 100% if someone hasn't had chemo/radiation first. The cure rate is reduced quite a bit if someone has had chemo/radiation before going to him. His treatment, as I understand it, is one treatment that turns off the genes that produce the cancer, and another that turns on the genes that fight the cancer, and it takes about 4-6 months. This is where I'd go if I ever had cancer. Hamel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I started LDN for metastatic breast cancer, but could only get the Rx after having a hysterectomy/ovariectomy and starting up on an aromatase inhibitor. I know there has been some question as to whether the AI's might negate the cancer stabilizing effect of the LDN. I've had good relief from the bone pain and fatigue that comes with the cancer, but am wondering if anyone else has had good cancer stabilizing results from the LDN post-hysterectomy and/or while taking - or after taking - AI's or tamoxifen? ~Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 for cancer and breast cancer you must change diet.you can go to the site knowthecause of doug kaufmann and learn about phase one diet.from time to time you see there women who go rid of their cancer with doug diet,and the important thing that it does not return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Hi Eileen, My wife has been on LDN for metastatic breast cancer for over 2 years. She took Tamoxifen for 5 years after her original diagnosis in 1998. She has also been taking Arimidex and IV Zometa from her traditional onc. She had an oophorectomy about 2 years ago. Since 2nd chances aren't part of the metastatic prognosis, she also takes supplements - IV-C, PawPaw, IP6, Beta Glucans, as well as a wide variety of vitamins and minerals. So far, so good. Her great condition is only marred by the fact that she has cancer! She hasn't had a CT scan in a about a year - no changes in the 1st 15 months, so no more scans. 3 spine bone mets were initially confirmed - liver and lung mets were suspected, but not positively confirmed even after a PET scan. Best to you, Steve > > I started LDN for metastatic breast cancer, but could only get the Rx after having a hysterectomy/ovariectomy and starting up on an aromatase inhibitor. I know there has been some question as to whether the AI's might negate the cancer stabilizing effect of the LDN. I've had good relief from the bone pain and fatigue that comes with the cancer, but am wondering if anyone else has had good cancer stabilizing results from the LDN post-hysterectomy and/or while taking - or after taking - AI's or tamoxifen? > > ~Eileen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Yes, all of her current treatment started at nearly the same time as her oophorectomy just over 2 years ago(a month or 2 at most either way as we settled in on a plan). It's one thing to " feel " what makes a difference, but it is unfortunately impossible to know. The only thing I can say is that I firmly believe that she would not be enjoying her present good state without the " complementary " treatment. As a matter of fact, we believe that some of the symptoms she has - joint stiffness and the like are being caused by the Arimidex/Zometa. It just takes more courage than we can muster right now to trash all of the traditional treatment. Thank to all for the Cimetidine info - very interesting. I for one would very much like to hear from anyone who tries that therapy - good results or not. Steve Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: cancer treatment Sun, March 7, 2010 10:32:32 AM From: Eileen <ravensegge@...> even1 <even1@...> Thanks for writing, Steve. Did your wife start the Arimidex at the same time as the oophorectomy and/or the LDN? Does she feel that the LDN made a major difference - that it is largely responsible for the stasis/well being she currently enjoys? I was taking IP6 and Beta Glucans and had had the hysterectomy when I had my last big progression, so that didn't help me very much - but my cancer is 'grade 4', so very aggressive. And now I'm wondering if perhaps the mastectomy and hysterectomy may have made things worse because of the effects of the anaesthesia. Interesting thread on that the other day! In any case, the LDN has helped me a lot with the bone pain, so I am grateful for that whatever it may or may not do for the cancer itself, but I am very anxious to get the results of my latest scan. I'm getting those results on Tuesday, so we'll see! In the meantime, thank you very much for the encouragement - it helps, since I'm working up a head of steam on my pre-scan-results anxiety... :\ ~Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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