Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

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I would think around 14 days..call and speak with anesthesia

Deb RN

From:

low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On

Behalf Of lollyjolly58

Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:36 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Due surgery soon, question about how soon

before surgery should I stop LDN?

I'm due to have investigative surgery soon and

wondered how soon

before surgery should I stop taking LDN and how soon after can I

resume it?

I'm hoping I can avoid Opiate based painkillers?

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

[Guest guest]

I would stop a couple of days before and resume as soon as you are

completely off any narcotic pain killers.

Art

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>

> I'm due to have investigative surgery soon and wondered how soon

> before surgery should I stop taking LDN and how soon after can I

> resume it?

>

> I'm hoping I can avoid Opiate based painkillers?

>

> Lolly

>

> http://www.ahsta.com

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps Skip could answer this - what is the life of standard dose taken on a daily basis. Is it cumulative or doese it dissipate in a day?

From: Debra <i_ownaberner@...>Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?low dose naltrexone Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:38 AM

I would think around 14 days..call and speak with anesthesia

Deb RN

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:lowdosenalt rexone@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of lollyjolly58Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:36 AMlow dose naltrexoneSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

I'm due to have investigative surgery soon and wondered how soonbefore surgery should I stop taking LDN and how soon after can Iresume it?I'm hoping I can avoid Opiate based painkillers?Lollyhttp://www.ahsta. com

[Guest guest]

Thank you Art, that's what I was thinking too..doesn't it stay in the

system for at least 48 hours? so a few days I'll be clear of it.

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

>

> I would stop a couple of days before and resume as soon as you are

> completely off any narcotic pain killers.

>

> Art

> --

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

I don't think I would need to stop it for that long a period, maybe

after.. if I'm taking any narcotic painkillers which I'm hoping to

avoid if all goes well.

I doubt I will be discussing it with anyone as my own GP doesn't even

know I taking it and that's the way I would like it to stay..

Thank you anyway for your reply.

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

>

> I would think around 14 days..call and speak with anesthesia

>

> Deb RN

[Guest guest]

If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AM Fri.

I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until after surgery.

I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Deb,I don't think I would need to stop it for that long a period, maybeafter.. if I'm taking any narcotic painkillers which I'm hoping toavoid if all goes well.I doubt I will be discussing it with anyone as my own GP doesn't evenknow I taking it and that's the way I would like it to stay..Thank you anyway for your reply.Lollyhttp://www.ahsta.com>> I would think around 14 days..call and speak with anesthesia> > Deb RN

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[Guest guest]

Eye surgery (specifically Cataract surgery) generally requires very little or none in the way of narcotics for pain post-op. There generally is just nusiance pain for a day or two.

It is the narcotics during anesthesia one must consider. I hope Skip or someone with pharmacology knowledge answers this issue. With the LOW DOSE, it may not be much of an issue at all as opposed to the 50mg dose. But I really am just guessing here. Many drugs have half-lives that you can calculate when it is flushed from the system. I think Art or someone thought it was just a few days, and I think he is right from past posts.

From: cotton <cotteni@...>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?low dose naltrexone Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 2:46 PM

If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AM Fri.

I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until after surgery.

I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Deb,I don't think I would need to stop it for that long a period, maybeafter.. if I'm taking any narcotic painkillers which I'm hoping toavoid if all goes well.I doubt I will be discussing it with anyone as my own GP doesn't evenknow I taking it and that's the way I would like it to stay..Thank you anyway for your reply.Lollyhttp://www.ahsta. com>> I would think around 14 days..call and speak with anesthesia> > Deb RN

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[Guest guest]

Lolly, I think if you take your LDN at night it is out of your system

by morning.

I believe you take your LDN in the morning, correct? So by the

evening it is out of your system.

LDN only stays in your system long enough to temporarilly boost your

endorphins.

Good luck on your upcoming operation.

Art

--

>

> Thank you Art, that's what I was thinking too..doesn't it stay in

the

> system for at least 48 hours? so a few days I'll be clear of it.

>

> Lolly

>

>

> http://www.ahsta.com

>

[Guest guest]

Previously people have said that the small amount of naltrexone we take

is out of the body in maximum 6 hours so before visiting the dentist I

just stopped the night before and never had any problems.

cotton wrote:

> * If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AM

> Fri.*

> * I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until after

> surgery.*

> * I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.*

>

[Guest guest]

This is what was said February 2008 about LDN and surgery-You only have to skip LDN the night BEFORE your surgery and skip LDNthe days you are on narcotic pain meds sice LDN can block the effectsof narcotic pain meds. You do not have to stop LDN 4 days before asurgical procedure. Resume LDN the day you no longer need the painmeds.Hugs & Blessings,Crystal [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Deb,

I don't think I would need to stop it for that long a period, maybe

after.. if I'm taking any narcotic painkillers which I'm hoping to

avoid if all goes well.

I doubt I will be discussing it with anyone as my own GP doesn't even

know I taking it and that's the way I would like it to stay..

Thank you anyway for your reply.

Lolly

http://www.ahsta. com

>

> I would think around 14 days..call and speak with anesthesia

>

> Deb RN

[Guest guest]

Hi Cotton,

I've just gone through my replies on here and came across Crystals

this is what she said.

This is what was said February 2008 about LDN and surgery-

You only have to skip LDN the night BEFORE your surgery and skip LDN

the days you are on narcotic pain meds sice LDN can block the effects

of narcotic pain meds. You do not have to stop LDN 4 days before a

surgical procedure. Resume LDN the day you no longer need the pain

meds.

Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

You should be okay if you skip the night before and resume if your not

taking narcotics.

Good luck with your surgery Friday will you be having anaesthetic or

just a local?

Best

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

>

> If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AM

Fri.

> I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until after

surgery.

> I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Art,

You are correct I still take my 3mg LDN in the morning, you got a good

memory.

And I have reduced my thyroxine too, now on 175 mg as I went a little

hyper.

I will be having an Anaesthetic, Laparoscopy with view to repair

either Endometriosis or adhesion's or both. Seems they may be

attached to bowel and bladder.

I had a Hysterectomy back in the 90's for Endometriosis.

Thank you for your help I will just take my morning dose the day

before surgery and then resume if I am not taking any narcotics.

Just hope this surgery works and I am pain free, as I have a problem

with taking narcotics and codeine and have been suffering for some

time now. I was hoping LDN might have helped with this too, but it hasn't

Thanks for the good Luck.

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

>

> Lolly, I think if you take your LDN at night it is out of your system

> by morning.

>

> I believe you take your LDN in the morning, correct? So by the

> evening it is out of your system.

>

> LDN only stays in your system long enough to temporarilly boost your

> endorphins.

>

> Good luck on your upcoming operation.

>

> Art

[Guest guest]

Thank you Crystal that is a great help, as I take my dose of LDN in

the morning I will take it the morning before surgery and resume if or

when I am not taking any Narcotics...I thought 14 days was a bit

extreme I only have to stop Clopidgrel(Plavix) 7 days before any

surgical procedure as that's a blood thinner.

Best wishes

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

>

> This is what was said February 2008 about LDN and surgery-

>

>

> You only have to skip LDN the night BEFORE your surgery and skip LDN

> the days you are on narcotic pain meds sice LDN can block the effects

> of narcotic pain meds. You do not have to stop LDN 4 days before a

> surgical procedure. Resume LDN the day you no longer need the pain

> meds.

>

> Hugs & Blessings,

> Crystal

[Guest guest]

This is all new to me. Only thing I think I know is a needle will be inserted in the back of my hand. I'm assuming from what I heard it will be a mild sedative. No idea what kind. So, not taking any for about 60 hrs. should be good. Thanks to you and Crystal for the info.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Cotton,I've just gone through my replies on here and came across Crystalsthis is what she said.This is what was said February 2008 about LDN and surgery-You only have to skip LDN the night BEFORE your surgery and skip LDNthe days you are on narcotic pain meds sice LDN can block the effectsof narcotic pain meds. You do not have to stop LDN 4 days before asurgical procedure. Resume LDN the day you no longer need the painmeds.Hugs & Blessings,CrystalYou should be okay if you skip the night before and resume if your nottaking narcotics.Good luck with your surgery Friday will you be having anaesthetic orjust a local?BestLollyhttp://www.ahsta.com>> If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AMFri.> I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until aftersurgery.> I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.----------------------------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Eye surgery is a local with sedation.....the sedation is usually

not a narcotic but a drug in the benzodiazepine family (valium, ativan etc).

Just make sure that the CRNA or anesthesiologist knows that you

are on LDN.

From:

low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On

Behalf Of cotton

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:09 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about

how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

This is all new to me. Only thing I

think I know is a needle will be inserted in the back of my hand. I'm

assuming from what I heard it will be a mild sedative. No idea what

kind. So, not taking any for about 60 hrs. should be good.

Thanks to you and Crystal for the info.

-----

Original Message -----

From: lollyjolly58

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Thursday, October

23, 2008 7:04 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone]

Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Cotton,

I've just gone through my replies on here and came across Crystals

this is what she said.

This is what was said February 2008 about LDN and surgery-

You only have to skip LDN the night BEFORE your surgery and skip LDN

the days you are on narcotic pain meds sice LDN can block the effects

of narcotic pain meds. You do not have to stop LDN 4 days before a

surgical procedure. Resume LDN the day you no longer need the pain

meds.

Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

You should be okay if you skip the night before and resume if your not

taking narcotics.

Good luck with your surgery Friday will you be having anaesthetic or

just a local?

Best

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

>

> If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AM

Fri.

> I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until after

surgery.

> I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.

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Hi Lolly & Everyone,

I too had a hysterectomy about 10 yrs

ago because of Endometriosis but they didn’t take my ovaries so now 10 years

later I have 1 cyst on my left ovary and 2 on my right ovary and my right tube

is blocked and swelling. I have been in SO much pain. The Dr tried meds but it

didn’t work so I have to go Friday the 31st on Halloween and have my

ovaries out.

So if anyone emails me that day for Dr’s or

anything it may be a day or two before I get back to you.

I plan on stopping my LDN the night before

and then continuing right after if I have to take anything pain meds. As long

as everything goes ok it’ll be a one day surgery and I’ll go home the same day

and they’ll be doing it by Laparoscopy also as long as everything goes ok.

May there be a miracle in YOUR

life today and may you have the EYES to see it.

From My Heart to Yours

Love, Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

LDN_Users

Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and

an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... No Relapses.....

Crystal's

MS,TM & LDN Website

http://www.freewebs.com/crystalangel6267/index.htm

LDN Website

http://www.ldninfo.org/

Crystal's

LDN Support Group

LDN_Users/

Cris

– Case Health - Health Success Stories

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Crystal's LDN Gift Shop

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Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

http://www.skipspharmacy.com/ [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Art,

You are correct I still take my 3mg LDN in the morning, you got a good

memory.

And I have reduced my thyroxine too, now on 175 mg as I went a little

hyper.

I will be having an Anaesthetic, Laparoscopy with view to repair

either Endometriosis or adhesion's or both. Seems they may be

attached to bowel and bladder.

I had a Hysterectomy back in the 90's for Endometriosis.

Thank you for your help I will just take my morning dose the day

before surgery and then resume if I am not taking any narcotics.

Just hope this surgery works and I am pain free, as I have a problem

with taking narcotics and codeine and have been suffering for some

time now. I was hoping LDN might have helped with this too, but it hasn't

Thanks for the good Luck.

Lolly

http://www.ahsta. com

>

> Lolly, I think if you take your LDN at night it is out of your system

> by morning.

>

> I believe you take your LDN in the morning, correct? So by the

> evening it is out of your system.

>

> LDN only stays in your system long enough to temporarilly boost your

> endorphins.

>

> Good luck on your upcoming operation.

>

> Art

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyrstal,

Are you taking iodine? Very important to prevent cysts, cancer or cure them.Nonie

Hi Lolly & Everyone,

I too had a hysterectomy about 10 yrs ago because of Endometriosis but they didn’t take my ovaries so now 10 years later I have 1 cyst on my left ovary and 2 on my right ovary and my right tube is blocked and swelling. I have been in SO much pain. The Dr tried meds but it didn’t work so I have to go Friday the 31st on Halloween and have my ovaries out.

So if anyone emails me that day for Dr’s or anything it may be a day or two before I get back to you.

I plan on stopping my LDN the night before and then continuing right after if I have to take anything pain meds. As long as everything goes ok it’ll be a one day surgery and I’ll go home the same day and they’ll be doing it by Laparoscopy also as long as everything goes ok.

May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.From My Heart to Yours Love, Hugs & Blessings, Crystal

LDN_Users Group Owner

[Guest guest]

Just to be conservative....there can be various forms of sedation and we don't know what will be given, although the usual drugs of choice are in the benzodiazepoine category as Debra indicates. Versed is very popular in recent years. Narcotics occasionally MAY be given as supplemental to knock you out a bit, especially during crucial parts of the procedure, or if you are moving too much, or feeling pain for some reason (rarer. They can be short acting as needed and reversed as needed.

It has been my experience that anesthesiologists and CRNAs have no clue about LDN, so it is just better to stop it as described on this list and restart it after surgery.

From: Debra <i_ownaberner@...>Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?low dose naltrexone Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:24 AM

Eye surgery is a local with sedation.... .the sedation is usually not a narcotic but a drug in the benzodiazepine family (valium, ativan etc).

Just make sure that the CRNA or anesthesiologist knows that you are on LDN.

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:lowdosenalt rexone@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of cottonSent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:09 AMlow dose naltrexoneSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

This is all new to me. Only thing I think I know is a needle will be inserted in the back of my hand. I'm assuming from what I heard it will be a mild sedative. No idea what kind. So, not taking any for about 60 hrs. should be good. Thanks to you and Crystal for the info.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Cotton,I've just gone through my replies on here and came across Crystalsthis is what she said.This is what was said February 2008 about LDN and surgery-You only have to skip LDN the night BEFORE your surgery and skip LDNthe days you are on narcotic pain meds sice LDN can block the effectsof narcotic pain meds. You do not have to stop LDN 4 days before asurgical procedure. Resume LDN the day you no longer need the painmeds.Hugs & Blessings,CrystalYou should be okay if you skip the night before and resume if your nottaking narcotics.Good luck with your surgery Friday will you be having anaesthetic orjust a local?BestLollyhttp://www.ahsta. com>> If it's 14 days I may have a problem. I have eye surgery 7 AMFri.> I took a dose last nite and was not figuring on more until aftersurgery.> I was under the impression it would be all cleared out by then.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

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Good luck Crystal. if they do this laparoscopically you will be up and feeling better in no time, but don't push it! We will be thinking of you!

BC

From: Crystals MS TM LDN Website <angelindisguise67@...>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?low dose naltrexone Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:45 AM

Hi Lolly & Everyone,

I too had a hysterectomy about 10 yrs ago because of Endometriosis but they didn’t take my ovaries so now 10 years later I have 1 cyst on my left ovary and 2 on my right ovary and my right tube is blocked and swelling. I have been in SO much pain. The Dr tried meds but it didn’t work so I have to go Friday the 31st on Halloween and have my ovaries out.

So if anyone emails me that day for Dr’s or anything it may be a day or two before I get back to you.

I plan on stopping my LDN the night before and then continuing right after if I have to take anything pain meds. As long as everything goes ok it’ll be a one day surgery and I’ll go home the same day and they’ll be doing it by Laparoscopy also as long as everything goes ok.

May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.From My Heart to Yours Love, Hugs & Blessings, Crystal

LDN_Users Group OwnerDiagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 3 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.... . No Relapses.... .

Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Websitehttp://www.freewebs .com/crystalange l6267/index. htm LDN Website http://www.ldninfo. org/

Crystal's LDN Support Grouphttp://health. groups.. com/group/ LDN_Users/

Cris – Case Health - Health Success Stories

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[low dose naltrexone] Re: Due surgery soon, question about how soon before surgery should I stop LDN?

Hi Art,You are correct I still take my 3mg LDN in the morning, you got a goodmemory.And I have reduced my thyroxine too, now on 175 mg as I went a littlehyper.I will be having an Anaesthetic, Laparoscopy with view to repaireither Endometriosis or adhesion's or both. Seems they may beattached to bowel and bladder.I had a Hysterectomy back in the 90's for Endometriosis.Thank you for your help I will just take my morning dose the daybefore surgery and then resume if I am not taking any narcotics.Just hope this surgery works and I am pain free, as I have a problemwith taking narcotics and codeine and have been suffering for sometime now. I was hoping LDN might have helped with this too, but it hasn'tThanks for the good Luck.Lollyhttp://www.ahsta. com>> Lolly, I think if you take your LDN at night it is out of your system > by morning. > > I believe you take your LDN in the morning, correct? So by the > evening it is out of your system. > > LDN only stays in your system long enough to temporarilly boost your > endorphins. > > Good luck on your upcoming operation.> > Art

[Guest guest]

Hi Crystal,

I can truly sympathise with you were the pain is concerned. I'm

surprised they didn't remove the ovaries at the time because of the

endometriosis...

You do know there is a connection with endometriosis and the

autoimmune system and many of us have one or more autoimmune

disease..I also had pre-eclampsia with my one and only child this too

is all connected. I'm so blessed to have had one child who went onto

donate her kidney to her dad, sadly just recently it has failed after

4 years and he is now back on dialysis.

I had an Oofrectomy when I had my hysterectomy, but just as thyroid

tissue can manifest itself anywhere else in the body, so can

endometriosis.. I also had antiphospholipid syndrome for which I am on

blood thinners another AI disease, so for me LDN has been a godsend if

it can help my compromised immune system. I think to myself what am I

going to get next.

I was at the end of my tether with the pain and not being able to take

pain meds other than mild paracetamol..that I insisted my GP refer me

and he finally did after a long time of inadequate treatment.I am so

glad I insisted it gives me some hope...The Gyn/surgeon a professor

thinks that the endometriosis could be attached to the bowel and

bladder and I could have scar tissue adhesion's from the hysterectomy.

I wish you well with the surgery on the 31st October and hope that it

resolves your pain.

I got my letter yesterday to go for an Ultra Sound scan transabdominal

and transvaginal which is booked for the 5th November and then

pre-assessment for surgery on the 11th. I don't think I will be

waiting too long for the surgery.

I too am having a laparoscopy, if they can repair that way, they will,

if not then I too will have to to be opened up and have a longer stay.

I've put a couple of links up that you may find of interest, you may

have already seen them.

Good Luck I wish you well and hope that your surgery goes as planned.

Let us know when you are able how it all goes.

http://www.endo-resolved.com/autoimmune.html

http://autoimmunedisease.suite101.com/article.cfm/autoimmune_endometriosis

I've decided to air on the side of caution and stop my LDN 3 days

before surgery is due

Best wishes

Lolly

http://www.ahsta.com

> >

> > Lolly, I think if you take your LDN at night it is out of your system

> > by morning.

> >

> > I believe you take your LDN in the morning, correct? So by the

> > evening it is out of your system.

> >

> > LDN only stays in your system long enough to temporarilly boost your

> > endorphins.

> >

> > Good luck on your upcoming operation.

> >

> > Art

>