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Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?

When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the first month.

For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from the odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.

For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every night. I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't always remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last nights. I woke up after almost being raped.

These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I can go to sleep.

Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone suggest a solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands work hours.

Thankyou

Audrey

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I've been taking LDN for 4 1/2 years. Until being diagnosed with

depression and now taking an anti-depressant for 2 weeks, I've had

two horrible nightmares after never having a single one. I woke up

screaming both times. I've started taking LDN every other night and

the nightmares have stopped.

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> Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?

>  

> When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the first

month.

>  

> For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from the

odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.

>  

> For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every night.

I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't always

remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last nights. I

woke up after almost being raped.

>  

> These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I can

go to sleep.

>  

> Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone suggest a

solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands work

hours.

>  

> Thankyou

> Audrey

>  

>

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Which anti-depressant are you on? Sometimes when you start a new med

it can make things weird until you stabilise. If you`ve been well on

the LDN I would tend to keep on taking that and maybe either try a

different anti-depressant or take a little less of it and work up to

the correct dose slowly. My husband takes both and is fine so maybe

it`s just that particular one?

Just an idea...

Good luck - I have awful dreams and I dont take LDN!

Bev

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> >

> > Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?

> >  

> > When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the first

> month.

> >  

> > For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from the

> odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.

> >  

> > For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every

night.

> I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't always

> remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last nights.

I

> woke up after almost being raped.

> >  

> > These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I

can

> go to sleep.

> >  

> > Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone suggest

a

> solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands

work

> hours.

> >  

> > Thankyou

> > Audrey

> >  

> >

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Hi All,

As far as I know (and experienced myself), when you start taking antidepressants during an episode of severe anxiety, your symptoms (anxiety, nightmares etc.) may get worse for a couple of weeks and the drug should start working only after 2 to 4 weeks. Therefore, psychiatrists sometimes describe tranquillizers on the side until you get used to the antidepressant. My father-in-law is psychiatrist and he tells his patients (who call him to say that the symptoms have got worse) to hold on to the antidepressant and they should feel the benefits after the first couple of weeks.

As has been taking her antidepressants for 2 weeks now, it could well be that she has overcome that initial difficult period and the antidepressant starts showing its benefits.

Nightmares and other forms of anxiety expression are very common nowadays and I would not quit LDN (if the individual is benefitting from it), unless the symptoms are severe and can be definitely attributed to LDN.

All the best,

Okan

From: cat707k <bevhk@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Nightmareslow dose naltrexone Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 5:27 AM

Which anti-depressant are you on? Sometimes when you start a new med it can make things weird until you stabilise. If you`ve been well on the LDN I would tend to keep on taking that and maybe either try a different anti-depressant or take a little less of it and work up to the correct dose slowly. My husband takes both and is fine so maybe it`s just that particular one?Just an idea...Good luck - I have awful dreams and I dont take LDN!Bev> >> > > > Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?> > Â > > When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the first > month.> > Â > > For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from the > odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.> > Â > > For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every night. > I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't always > remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last nights. I > woke up after almost being raped.> > Â > > These

nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I can > go to sleep. > > Â > > Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone suggest a > solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands work > hours.> > Â > > Thankyou> > Audrey> > Â > >>

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Hi Bev,

I take Prozac generic - 25mg - so maybe changing to a different one

will change the nightmares. Changing meds didn't occur to me when

the nightmares began. Had another nightmare last night and was

screaming out in my sleep! It would be so nice to put an end to

these nightmares.

Which anti-depressant is your husband taking? He's lucky!

Before LDN, I had awful dreams once in awhile, but nothing like they

are these days. My daughter said it's more like I'm having night

terrors. Makes me wonder what causes awful dreams in both healthy

and LDN folks.

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> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?

> > >  

> > > When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the

first

> > month.

> > >  

> > > For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from

the

> > odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.

> > >  

> > > For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every

> night.

> > I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't

always

> > remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last

nights.

> I

> > woke up after almost being raped.

> > >  

> > > These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I

> can

> > go to sleep.

> > >  

> > > Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone

suggest

> a

> > solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands

> work

> > hours.

> > >  

> > > Thankyou

> > > Audrey

> > >  

> > >

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I definitely won't stop taking the LDN. I'm going to see about

switching anti-depressants. Maybe it's the Prozac generic reaction

to the LDN that is creating the nightmares, whereas maybe a different

one won't create the nightmares.

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> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?

> > >  

> > > When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the

first

> > month.

> > >  

> > > For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from

the

> > odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.

> > >  

> > > For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every

> night.

> > I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't

always

> > remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last

nights.

> I

> > woke up after almost being raped.

> > >  

> > > These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I

> can

> > go to sleep.

> > >  

> > > Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone

suggest

> a

> > solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands

> work

> > hours.

> > >  

> > > Thankyou

> > > Audrey

> > >  

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Everyone,

When my husband started LDN most of his depression had ended and his feeling of well being returned. The only thing was he still had depression when he woke up in the mornings. I would have to sit with him for an hour each morning and convince him to get up out of bed. I approached the chat site with this and I was told that I should give DLPA. When I asked Dr. Bihari about this, he agreed that this might be the answer. After only one day on DLPA 's morning depressions were over. My understanding is that DLPA keeps the endorphins going in your body longer. It is over the counter and the brand Dr. Biahri recommends is Solaray. Take 500mg in the morning 1/2 hour before eating, then 500mg in the afternoon before eating. It is important to take this on an empty stomach otherwise the digestive enzymes will do something to the DLPA which keeps it from working.

I have mentioned this same thing to many others and have had about 50% of people say it works for depression, pain or more energy. You could also get this effect from eating chocolate, however chocolate might not be good for many of the ailments that one would take LDN for.

If anyone would like the e-mails that I have saved on DLPA, let me know and I will forward them to you. My e-mail is Aletha@...

All my best

Aletha

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Prozac gave me nightmares too.

Judy H

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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:38 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Nightmares

Hi Bev,I take Prozac generic - 25mg - so maybe changing to a different one will change the nightmares. Changing meds didn't occur to me when the nightmares began. Had another nightmare last night and was screaming out in my sleep! It would be so nice to put an end to these nightmares. Which anti-depressant is your husband taking? He's lucky!Before LDN, I had awful dreams once in awhile, but nothing like they are these days. My daughter said it's more like I'm having night terrors. Makes me wonder what causes awful dreams in both healthy and LDN folks. > > >> > > > > > Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?> > > Â > > > When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the first > > month.> > > Â > > > For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from the > > odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.> > > Â > > > For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every > night. > > I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't always > > remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last nights. > I > > woke up after almost being raped.> > > Â > > > These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I > can > > go to sleep. > > > Â > > > Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone suggest > a > > solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands > work > > hours.> > > Â > > > Thankyou> > > Audrey> > > Â > > >> >>

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As far as I know my thyroid is normal. I'm not taking any

antidepressants. I'm going to experiment with when I take my LDN

rather than exactly at bed time.

Thanks

Audrey

>

>

> Can anyone tell me how to stop nightmares?

 

> When I first started LDN I remember I slept like a baby the first

month.

 

> For the next year I don't remember having problems apart from the

odd night when I couldn't sleep at all.

 

> For the last six months I have had a nightmare almost every night.

I have one nightmare and then usually get to sleep. I don't always

remember the nightmare the next day but I do remember last nights. I

woke up after almost being raped.

 

> These nightmares are pretty scary and always wake me up. Then I can

go to sleep.

 

> Does anyone else have similar experiences and can anyone suggest a

solution to the problem. I go to bed late because of my husbands work

hours.

 

> Thankyou

> Audrey

 

>

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  • 1 year later...

- I haven't posted here in a long time, as my son, now 18, is doing

incredibly well. He was diagnosed at age 10 with Lyme and thankfully,

with Dr. ' help, he's made a full recovery.

Anyway - he had the nightmares and he would sleep walk and talk. He

would wake up, come into our bedroom, and say things like " I'm scared " .

I'd lead him back to bed and let him talk thru his nightmare. The worst

one was, when he was laying back in his bed, he kept asking " am I dead? "

am I in heaven? and the whole time, he's still really asleep. One time,

he came out of his bedroom shaking, and saying things like 'the walls

are melting, what's going on? " very bizzare...

The only thing that truly worked for us was letting him talk through his

nightmare, and getting him calmed down again, then he'd go back to sleep

and be fine for the rest of the night. In the morning, he wouldn't even

remember anything.. it was very distrubing.

I would recommend, if you don't have one already, is a journal for you.

I filled up two notebooks, with thoughts and observations and doctor's

visits. A journal might also help your daughter. I know that, for me,

after writing in the journal, just small things at times, like :

isn't limping today! I could look back and see the improvement that he

was making, one small step at a time. When you live with this disease,

it's hard to see the improvements, unless it's documented. Without

seeing the improvements, it's hard to have hope for the future.

Good luck to you, and God Bless.

JoAnne S.

D wrote:

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> Hi all. I am new to the group but have found ALL of the information

> posted to be very useful. I haven't seen a posting yet that covers the

> subject that I am looking for guidance on. My 17 year old daughter has

> had Lyme for 3-4 years. We are still struggling with treatment and her

> education. She seems to have a lot of neuro psych symptoms. Her

> biggest problem for over a year (besides lyme) is violent nightmares.

> Every night. Someone hurting her, beating her cat, etc. She doesn't

> wake up screaming, but wakes up shaken and wondering if it's real or

> if it could/would happen. She has had trouble getting to sleep and we

> tried several sleep aids, but what best works for her is 3 benadryl.

> So she takes those every night. She has tried counseling and

> anti-depressants (lexapro, prozac, cymbalta) but they seem to create

> more problems than they solve.

>

> If anyone has had a similar experience, or can tell me what might be

> causing this, I would greatly appreciate it.

>

> Also, how to motivate a teenager who has a chronic illness to look

> forward/work towards her future.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

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My son is much younger (almost 2) but we also have a lot of nightmare/

night terror issues. All that we have found that works is to have him

sleep with us so I can soothe him quickly - obviously not an option

for you. Hopefully someone will have some helpful info for both of us.

On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:32 PM, D wrote:

Hi all. I am new to the group but have found ALL of the information

posted to be very useful. I haven't seen a posting yet that covers the

subject that I am looking for guidance on. My 17 year old daughter has

had Lyme for 3-4 years. We are still struggling with treatment and her

education. She seems to have a lot of neuro psych symptoms. Her

biggest problem for over a year (besides lyme) is violent nightmares.

Every night. Someone hurting her, beating her cat, etc. She doesn't

wake up screaming, but wakes up shaken and wondering if it's real or

if it could/would happen. She has had trouble getting to sleep and we

tried several sleep aids, but what best works for her is 3 benadryl.

So she takes those every night. She has tried counseling and anti-

depressants (lexapro, prozac, cymbalta) but they seem to create more

problems than they solve.

If anyone has had a similar experience, or can tell me what might be

causing this, I would greatly appreciate it.

Also, how to motivate a teenager who has a chronic illness to look

forward/work towards her future.

Thank you.

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Hi,

My daughter had horrid nightmares too. Well, we were told they are night

terrors because they are so morbid and frightening. She would dream that I cut

her head off, or someone in our family would be murdered and it would be very

vivid and bloody.

My daughter has major psych neuro lyme and has been sick since she was 5 yrs

old. She is 15 3/4 yrs old now. She has had 3 IV PICC lines and still has one in

now. She was put on anti-depressants but they stopped helping. She's been

diagnosed with bipolar now as well, but we think it's all the lyme since she was

doing well and on bipolar meds when her last line was pulled and she crashed

within days. The only thing we changed was no more IV meds.

My daughter was given Ambien to help her sleep, but the night terrors...the

only thing that seemed to help her NOT have them was when we would pray together

at bedtime. I don't know if you're religious or not, but that is the only

rememdy we found to actually work that kept he night terrors from happening. If

we would get in bed late and not pray...she would have them all night long.

I have a VERY difficult time motivating my daughter with anything. She has

such learning problems that school is so challenging (and we cyber school and

she has an IEP, so I can help explain things)she shuts down. She tells me there

is no use in studying because she's too dumb to go to college. She has been at

the point where she didn't care about ANYTHING, especially not herself.

I have now clue how to motivate her or what to tell you about that. If you

find something that works, please let me know because I would love to know too.

My daughter has a lot of self esteem issues due to being sick her whole life,

being belittled by teachers and adults, and even her own family. She feels

worthless and it is true there are only going to limited things she can do for a

living because she has such trouble with fatiuge and physcial things too.

My daughter became better motivated after we saw a counselor and after her

IV PICC line was put back in and meds began again. I saw a huge difference in

her, but she still doesn't try as hard as she should or could with things. I've

asked my husband a million times, " How do you motivate someone who absolutely

does not care about anything? " It is a definite struggle.

I hope you find better answers than mine, just wanted to let you know

you're not alone in this. Neuro lyme messes with the chemicals in the brain and

I think that causes the horrible night terrors. I'm so sorry to hear about what

you and your daughter are going through. It is very tough. Lyme steals their

childhhood. My daughter never had one and I hate that. But, I refuse to give up

hope there is a reason for all she's been through.

Good luck with everything. I hope you daughter gets well soon!

Tracey

>

> Hi all. I am new to the group but have found ALL of the information posted to

be very useful. I haven't seen a posting yet that covers the subject that I am

looking for guidance on. My 17 year old daughter has had Lyme for 3-4 years.

We are still struggling with treatment and her education. She seems to have a

lot of neuro psych symptoms. Her biggest problem for over a year (besides

lyme) is violent nightmares. Every night. Someone hurting her, beating her

cat, etc. She doesn't wake up screaming, but wakes up shaken and wondering if

it's real or if it could/would happen. She has had trouble getting to sleep and

we tried several sleep aids, but what best works for her is 3 benadryl. So she

takes those every night. She has tried counseling and anti-depressants

(lexapro, prozac, cymbalta) but they seem to create more problems than they

solve.

>

> If anyone has had a similar experience, or can tell me what might be causing

this, I would greatly appreciate it.

>

> Also, how to motivate a teenager who has a chronic illness to look

forward/work towards her future.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

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My now 10 year old daughter had these when she was about 5 years old till about

8 months ago - after starting treatment for us seemed to really help.

I was told to talk to her about it right before she went to bed - she always

thought I was crazy but it did help - what we were to say was - Dear Jesus (or

who ever you want to talk to - even if just to yourself you want to address it

too) please keep away my scary dreams tonight.  Say this out laud three times -

they also told me to put a crucifix (any kind of cross - my daughter put a cross

she made at school ) at the top of her bed and a dream catcher on the side of

her bed.  I do have to say that it did help..........now I give her meds to

keep her body asleep so she can sleep though the night -

Good luck as night terriers are so scary for them.................

Diane

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From: jchabot <jchabot@...>

Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 11:51:32 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nightmares

 

Hi

Two of my kids had night terrors. One with Lyme and one without.

A solution for them , that occasionally works is , after they have been sleeping

for about 2 hours , go in and wake them up. Make sure they are awake, like give

them a drink or have them go to the bathroom , than have them go back to sleep.

I know it's hard to get the kids back to sleep, but it is much better , in my

opinion, than being up with  them all night long screaming.

My daughte's were very severe, and this was what I learned from the

psychiatrist.

Hugs

judy

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From: Suzanne <suzlwilliams>

Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:19:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nightmares

It's so odd that this subject just came up because I was going to ask 

if anyone's children on here had night terrors.  I had to treat myself 

and my son for congenital Lymes.  But my daughter was born negative 

because of my treatment (which I had to do the entire pregnancy... 

another story).  Anyway,  after a camping trip at a lake she, at 4 

yrs. old, came down with what appeared to be meningitis.. .  high temp, 

achy joints, then frozen joints, extreme pain.  It was slow building 

and took about a month to escalate.  The hospital could not find any 

bacteria and did test for Lymes, only not quite how a Lyme Spec. would 

have done it.

Anyhow, she started having night terrors about a week before we had to 

rush her to the hospital.  That was over 2 years ago and she still 

gets the night terrors but only when she is coming down with 

something, sick or really thrown off her schedule and is overly 

tired.  Wakes up shaking, scared, screaming, tries to crawl out of 

bed.  She can't remember a thing the next morning, thank God.  And 

research says it's best not to talk about it the next day.  But I 

found that since she talks a lot during these that if I hold her close 

and talk to her calmly it helps.  Very helpful is to try and redirect 

her dream.  This works best because she can hear me and responds, 

although she is totally asleep.  So if I tell her to " come home with 

me and lay down in bed and go to sleep and that I'm with her and she's 

OK "   it helps tremendously.  I have to repeat it several times until 

she has a big yawn.  When the big yawn happens I know the terror is 

over.  weird.  But it works.

I figured this out because only once she had a terror that was not so 

violent and she was talking about " I want one...only screaming "   so I 

told her she could have one and it seems to calm her down a bit.  So I 

told her to " take several, you can have as many as you want "   and she 

calmed down a lot.  This one sounds more like just talking in her 

sleep but it was really a night terror.  This was when I found out 

that she could actually hear me although sometimes she doesn't respond 

at first but if you keep repeating it helps I think for them to hear 

your voice.  It's comforting to know mom or dad is with them when they 

are scared.

Also, you might try giving your daughter Melatonin instead of 

Benedryl.  It's all natural and will definitely help them sleep.  Be 

careful giving too much to little ones.  It will really knock them out 

quick.  I've only given it to my 6 year old twice but it did keep her 

from having a terror on those nights.  Like half or a quarter of 1mg. 

I crushed it up and put in juice.  But they come in chewables too. 

For adult size usually 3mg is enough, if it doesn't work take 2 the 

next night.  It will always work if you take enough.  For those who 

are used to Ambien it might take more since that drug is so strong. 

And everyone I know taking that gets addicted  to it, so watch out. 

You can ask your doctor first of course, but all my doctors have said 

Melatonin is safe for anyone.  Too much Benedryl (anti-histamines) can 

be very harmful and if it builds up in your system can cause panic 

attacks.  That happened to my husband.

Good luck,

Suzanne

On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:32 PM, D wrote:

> Hi all. I am new to the group but have found ALL of the information 

> posted to be very useful. I haven't seen a posting yet that covers 

> the subject that I am looking for guidance on. My 17 year old 

> daughter has had Lyme for 3-4 years. We are still struggling with 

> treatment and her education. She seems to have a lot of neuro psych 

> symptoms. Her biggest problem for over a year (besides lyme) is 

> violent nightmares. Every night. Someone hurting her, beating her 

> cat, etc. She doesn't wake up screaming, but wakes up shaken and 

> wondering if it's real or if it could/would happen. She has had 

> trouble getting to sleep and we tried several sleep aids, but what 

> best works for her is 3 benadryl. So she takes those every night. 

> She has tried counseling and anti-depressants (lexapro, prozac, 

> cymbalta) but they seem to create more problems than they solve.

>

> If anyone has had a similar experience, or can tell me what might be 

> causing this, I would greatly appreciate it.

>

> Also, how to motivate a teenager who has a chronic illness to look 

> forward/work towards her future.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

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