Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 , I agree with what Grady wrote to you.. In addition I can add one more thing that is currently being experienced by a fair number of lp. My daughter, who is a joy, was given up at 9 days of age by her birth parents for the simple fact that she is a dwarf.. I learned while in Minneapolis at nationals that this is not a rare or unusual happenstance. Think about it.. to give away or discard your own flesh and blood due to an " imperfection " in their body.. (please lp readers don't get offended.. I just can't think of any other way to describe it.. I think my daughter's body IS perfect! She is not a mistake or an error in genetics!!) This is happening to lp infants from all backgrounds and countries from my understanding.. IT'S AWFUL!! Surely, you can see that lp's face all types of trials and challenges simply due to their stature... and it's not right!! We all have things in our lives that are less than perfect but I would venture to say that for lp's these things are much more common and not to be taken lightly.. Gigi ----Original Message Follows---- From: " graydon roberts " <gradysir@...> dwarfismegroups Subject: Dear Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:06:09 -0000 Dear , Hi, here's my opinion:). The problem with the " Try having your entire culture burned at the stake, beheaded, drawn and quartered. THEN come to me when you have problems " argument is that we as a dwarf people can not claim exclusivity to one culture. In other words, dwarfism, in all it's forms and variations can be found in all cultures worldwide. So, asking us to answer the cultural argument is like throwing a high fastball you know we'll never be able to hit. hehe But one thing we can do is " enlighten " you and others on how dwarfs during the ages in 'some' cultures were either persecuted or abandon to die just due to being a dwarf and/or handicapped. During the Roman culture, anyone born with a handicap, be it: blindness, mental retardation, dwarfism or just being born lame oftentimes were brought to the outside of town, abandoned and left to die. Now, that may not technically considered 'persecution' as we weren't persected for any held beliefs, because what belief of any type can be held by any infant? However, just the fact that we were identified and singled out as a class of people not worth keeping alive is wrong in and by itself. Only God has that right. Second, a lesser known but a more recent example of LP persecution is this one: The Nazi regime of Germany during World War II not only sought to experiment, torture and eliminate the Jews but also the Little People who's only misfortune was living there during that time period. The Nazi's did some extremely sick experiments on the Little People and often times right prior to killing them. All of this is documented with pictures included. I only say this last sentence as a point of historical record not to pique anyone's morbid curiousity. I might add this too: Why did the Nazi Germans seek LP's for their destructive dominance? Well, LP's (as well as other groups of people) were seen as being the aberrants or defectives of society; less than imperfect. Oddly enough, the true aberrants or defectives of society, are not the ones who can be physically 'marked' just merely by looking at them rather they are the ones who look 'normal' on the outside but are 'markedly' different inside. They are the Ted Bundy's, Dahmer's and Wayne Gacy's of society who walk past you everyday and you don't even know it and not the LP's and/or other handicapped people. To me, they are the most threatening people to society, both big and small, and the scariest ones too. Primarily because they can't be identified just by looking at them. Think about that one folks. Freaky, huh? >>>>> It's just opposite what (some) people do as (some) judge by appearances 'first' and not the inside, thus letting the Ted Bundy's " walk right on by unhindered. " Spooky, isn't it? Third, another reason why the " Try having your entire culture burned at the stake, beheaded, drawn and quartered " argument does not work for us or you-for that matter. Is that you yourself even said that it does not 'personally' apply to you as you've never gone through those same things as those before you have or those outside of you are now. So, , follow along, ok. So, when LP's talk of 'persecution' in the present day, of the here and now, they're not talking about being " burned at the stake " or even saying that what they're experiencing is comparable to that rather they are talking about the type of persecution of being singled out, made fun of and/or denied certain opportunities just because of their dwarfism. Lastly, being one myself and in the present tense (in these times) and having been personally singled out (not talking about my ancestors or far off relatives here), made fun and denied certain things (eg. job opp's), etc. Trust me, there is no such experience as going through it in the present tense, especially if you're the one going through it. Because whatever may have even happened to my dwarf kindred 'before me' or even now to my 'far off and removed from me' kindred still does not affect me as much as to what I am presently going through in my own body right now*. Why? Because I am alive and feeling it right now. Does that make sense? That is not a put-down, but an honest question. sincerely, grady;) *-I say this NOT to diminish what my dwarf ancestors went through or what your ancestors (or even your present day but what your 'far removed' from you relatives are now going through), because to go through any persecution of any type is wrong. What I am saying is this: When you are 'personally' going through it in the here and now, as we are now, it's a whole different experiencing it now as compared to you who is not experiencing it now, but can only make 'historical references' of his people having gone through it before him. See my point? Maybe I'm wrong? Maybe you are experiencing it too now too, but that was not the picture I got from you. However, if I am wrong then I am truly sorry as then you do know or should know what we are going through? Or do you? Or are you the type who just loves a rhetorical argument?:Þ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Rose, I don't know you other than by what you post on the listserve.. We were in MN and perhaps you were too, not that it matters... You are always so willing to give all sides an even chance on most anything I can think of offhand that has been on lately.. I certainly appreciate your positive comments back this way!!! Sometimes you just don't know when something may get misconstrued... Hugs and Smiles, Gigi _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 " I still have my guns in case they would show up at my door.Eli " Dear Man, You know how occasionally we see each other at regionals, sit sipping on our drinks and wonder why 2 such wonderful human beings are single? Well we now know why you are!!! Next time we can concentrate on me!! Keep warm dear Eli, > i think there talking 4 legged deer I hunted at one time till I tired > of being cold and sore over a dead animal,But they are kind of like 2 > legged dear once you have them then u have to do somthing with them > and usally means spending money like the cost of butchering;ammo;time > off from work not to get the two confused about the butchering > part.however I still have my guns in case they would show up at my > door.Eli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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