Re: Lymes Disease

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After working with Romero, MD and reading info from Bowman Institute in Florida, it appears that a majority of people have Lymes disease and can easily be transferred to and from people, possibly a hand-shake but have not heard the DNA story.

The Bowman Institute will do a blood test for $250.

The recommendation for a cure is to use TOA-free Cat's Claw, the recommended brand is Samento.

Good Luck,

, MS, UC Berkeley

lymes disease

May naturopath, bioresonance practitioner (I think she uses an Equinon--not legal here) says we are all born with Lymes in our DNA.Any comments? is Rotella, M.Ac............................................

[Guest guest]

that's one I never heard before

jadespring2003 wrote:

>May naturopath, bioresonance practitioner (I think she uses an Equinon--not

legal here) says we are all born with Lymes in our DNA.

>Any comments? is Rotella, M.Ac.

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[Guest guest]

MediHerbs from Standard Process is an excellant source's for the proper Cat Claw.

Lymes series from Deseret Biologicals along with their Smart Silver has proven effect.

Generally 4 or more months is required for results.

As with all homeopathy . . . drain the organs.

lymes disease

May naturopath, bioresonance practitioner (I think she uses an Equinon--not legal here) says we are all born with Lymes in our DNA.Any comments? is Rotella, M.Ac............................................

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Hello All,

I'm pretty sure sometime ago there was a protocol listed

for Lymes Disease. Would someone mind taking the time to post

it again or shoot me a private email = potential client asking.

Thanks in advance!

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Don't know what protocol you're referring to, but don't overlook the

Rife frequencies for Lyme's disease (they are listed on the Web). A

man who builds Rife generators told me not to run a Lyme frequency for

more than a minute every two weeks. But you can muscle test to

ascertain how long the patient can take -- lots of water needs to be

taken before and after using frequencies otherwise px. can get real sick.

Www.monasteryherbs.com or www.monasteryofherbs.com make up fresh

batches of herbal protcols for Lyme's. My biological dentist has been

using them successfully for years. Lyme's is not really the problem;

the immune system is so treat the spleen, blood (WBCs) and the immune

system itself. Find out the emotional reason the immune system

crashed -- Lyme's disease and all the nasties out there are

low-frequency invaders. Hypnotherapy tapes boosting self confidence

are great helpers (Carol kson and Tom Condon, Carol is the late

Milton kson, M.D.'s daughter). Large doses of Lipoic acid is a

great help -- up to 600 mg. daily is what I take.

Don't know if I posted this before, but there's the belief that the

Lyme's is not a miasm and in everyone's DNA. When immune system goes

gaga, Lyme's may kick in. Can it be wiped out? I don't think anyone

knows. It CAN be controlled.

is Rotella, M.Ac.

Arnold, Md.

> Hello All,

> I'm pretty sure sometime ago there was a protocol listed

> for Lymes Disease. Would someone mind taking the time to post

> it again or shoot me a private email = potential client asking.

> Thanks in advance!

>

> Love,

>

>

> =====

> (`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´) ¸.·'´)

> «´¨ Love,

> ** ¨`»

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> ¸.·´

> ( `·.¸

> `·.¸ )

> ¸.·)´

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> `*.

> *.

> The whole world can love you, but that love

> will not make you happy. What will make you happy

> is the love coming out of you. That is the love that will

> make a difference.

> ~~~ Don Ruiz ~~~

>

> http://alternativehopeforhepc.com

> http://alternativehope.royalbodycare.com (membership discount pkgs.)

> ***Free Audio Tape & Info Pak - Call: 877 367-9875***

> The Q2 Energy Spa - http://alternativehopeQ2energy.com

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Hi Lots has been written on Lymes on this site. Do a SEARCH. But

remember also to support the immune system. is Rotella

xci-english , " jennybelles1 " <jennybelles1@y...> wrote:

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> Hello,

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> Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at

> the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are

> getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach

> Lymes.

>

> Thank you for your help.

[Guest guest]

Start very slowly, when you are killing off anything with lymes you will

stir it up. So concentrate first on building the immune system. Work at a

slower pace than you would for other issues.

Yours in health,

Kathy

Lymes Disease

Hello,

Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at

the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are

getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach

Lymes.

Thank you for your help.

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[Guest guest]

quickly! Do a lot of zapping and if it has been going on for any length of time, I would consider antibiotics (believe it of not). Also, do all that is indicated in other realms, especially karma clearing, and detoxing. Let us all know how it goes!

Lymes Disease

Hello,Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach Lymes.Thank you for your help.

[Guest guest]

jenny!

lyme disease is a very tricky issue.

borellia burgdorferi is a spirochete bacterium, and can very well fool the

immune system.

lyme disease seems to have a lot to do with mercury intoxication as well. if

you have any amalgams left in your mouth, have them removed. check with the

qxci in homotox panel.

it is best to address both the disease and the intoxication.

for the borellia you can take natural antibiotics like propolis or a very

high dosage garlic (with high allicin releasing potential). oliveleaf is a

good idea too. zap all different lyme frequencies with the qxci. regularly.

you must treat lyme disease for a long time (months!), until all traces are

gone.

also take omega 3 fatty acids and take msm. don´t forget to alkalize your

body (alkalife f. i.) borellia can only dwell in an acidic environment.

you can find many different ways to detoxify heavy metals. if your kidneys

are strong enough (check creatinine in the serum), you can try edta. it is

very effective. edta can also be applied intravenously, but the oral intake

will also do the job. it just takes longer. if you take homeopathics, please

keep in mind, that homeopathics can only mobilize the metals, but cannot

grab them for safe excretion via the urine or the stool. if you want to

detoxify via skin, you may want to try the detox pads for the feet, or try

the q2 spa.

hey, jenny. you have the best tool at hand: the qxci....

wishing you the best of health

marlene

Lymes Disease

Hello,

Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at

the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are

getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach

Lymes.

Thank you for your help.

.............................................

[Guest guest]

Just a few more comments about Lymes (I've said more in previous

entries). My husband and I both have Lymes. His is in the joints

mainly and mine is almost everywhere (symptomatically speaking). I

went to see my holistic MD and he said lifting of weights in a gentle

manner is good therapy for Lymes. Keeping the immune system healthy.

How you do it is different for each individual. He also said that it

is proably transmissible through saliva and not just ticks but any

insect or animal bite. As I said previously, a naturopath I used to

see believes it is in our DNA and inherited. The key, like in any

diagnosis, is not to get trapped in fear.

Teasel is a good spirchete remedy. PRL in Tennessee has great results

with it.

is Rotella , M.Ac.

Arnold, Md.

www.jadespring.com

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> Hello,

>

> Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at

> the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are

> getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach

> Lymes.

>

> Thank you for your help.

[Guest guest]

Dr. devoted a whole issue of his latest newsletter to Lyme disease...scary stuff!

He may be reached at 800-718-8293 or at drdavidwilliams.com Good luck!jadespring2003 <jadespring2003@...> wrote:

Just a few more comments about Lymes (I've said more in previousentries). My husband and I both have Lymes. His is in the jointsmainly and mine is almost everywhere (symptomatically speaking). Iwent to see my holistic MD and he said lifting of weights in a gentlemanner is good therapy for Lymes. Keeping the immune system healthy.How you do it is different for each individual. He also said that itis proably transmissible through saliva and not just ticks but anyinsect or animal bite. As I said previously, a naturopath I used tosee believes it is in our DNA and inherited. The key, like in anydiagnosis, is not to get trapped in fear. Teasel is a good spirchete remedy. PRL in Tennessee has great resultswith it.is Rotella , M.Ac.Arnold,

Md.www.jadespring.com--- In qxci-english , "jennybelles1"<jennybelles1@y...> wrote:> > > Hello,> > Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at > the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are > getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach > Lymes.> > Thank you for your help.............................................

[Guest guest]

You can download " attractor field manual " and request from Dr Ebert

the tapping protocol for Lymes. According to his work, the FEAR

attractor field is what keeps Lymes around. I refuse to get

frightened. So many people test positive for it that it has become a

miasm not just transferred by ticks but mosquitoes and some believe

saliva. The practitioners that I have been to and study with refuse

to let the symptoms and fear grab hold of their senses.

is Rotella, M.Ac.

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> > Hello,

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> > Can anyone tell me how to treat Lymes Disease? I am new at

> > the qxci and my test indicated Lymes, and all of my joints are

> > getting very painful. I am not sure of the best way to approach

> > Lymes.

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> > Thank you for your help.

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[Guest guest]

Look at the website Lyme Induced Autism - they may have some

answers. http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/

Nora

On Aug 17, 2007, at 1:01 AM, auntie_j@... wrote:

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> Hi,

> can someone please refresh my memory on the correct depth/ time for

> treating someone with Lyme's Disease? Someone I know wants to use a

> soft sided chamber at 1.3 ata. However, I seem to recall people

> with Lyme's start at, at least 2.0 ata and go for 90 minutes with

> an air break at 45 minutes and work down to 2.75 ata. My

> understanding is a soft sided chamber can not handle anything

> 'deeper' than 1.5 ata.

> If, she chooses to stick with the soft sided at 1.3 ata, can she

> expect to see any results?

> Thank you,

> Joanne

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Thanks so much for the time you spend helping people. It is sooooo

> appreciated!

==>Hi . You are so welcome.

> Anyway I came to your site in my desperate search to figure out

how to feel better. For the last couple of years I've complained of

many hypothyroid symptoms but my levels test normal. I've been

thirstier than normal having no problem drinking at least 64 oz. a

day. Dr. has no explaination for the thirst.

==>The most likely cause of your thirst is malfunctioning adrenal

glands, which is very common for candida sufferers. Here's a quote

from my article " Water Retention " found in the " C) Treatments Folder

in our Group's File (left menu):

" The adrenal glands also produce a number of hormones which are

essential to life. Two corticosteroids hormones that are produced

are aldersterone and hydrocostisone. They are most important because

they:

-regulate the quantity of salt and water in the body,

-are instrumental in the regulation of sodium and potassium re--

absorption by the specific cells within the kidneys (this would also

cause excessive thirst),

-control carbohydrate, protein and fat metabolism,

-and help fight stressful situations.

==>See the article " Adrenal Malfunction and How to Treat It " in the

same " C) Treatments " Folder.

> I've suffered serious PMS with horrible cramping. For the last six

> months I've had symptoms similar to fibromyalgia and lymes disease -

- achey muscles/joints being the worst of the symptoms. I tested

> negative for lymes disease and rhumatoid arthritis so was referred

> to a rhumatologist I assume to receive an official fibromyalgia

> diagnosis. I haven't gone yet, as I'd really like to hear if you

> think I could heal my body from all of these ailments by using your

> program. I've been doing the diet for almost a month and have to

> say my last menstrual cycle was a breeze and the achiness has

> already improved. However, before starting the diet,I'd have good

> cycles and bad cycles and good days and achey days so want to give

> the diet more time to make sure every day and every cycle are

good.

>

> Anyway, my biggest concern is about the lymes disease. It is

> difficult to diagnose with lab tests since false negatives are

> common. I'm afraid I might have lymes even though the test was

> negative. If I do have lymes, should'nt I be on antibiotic

> treatments? I'd rather not since I'm trying so hard to clean up my

> body with this diet and supplements. But from what I've read,

lymes can get really bad if left untreated.

==>, Lymes Disease is not what the medicos " think " it is. Even

though " they " believe it is caused by disease borne ticks, the

interesting fact is " that not everyone who gets bitten by ticks " gets

Lyme's Disease. Blaming it on ticks is like blaming the manure pile

on the flies, and trying to get rid of the flies.

Any and all diseases like Lyme's are caused within the body itself,

and not by some outside bug, rat, mosquito, etc. nor by " catching "

bacteria, viruses, germs, parasites, from anyone or anywhere else.

The body itself makes organism that are already inside it, change

into these different kinds of bugs, including candida/cancer, in

order to clean itself UP. So the cause is a toxic body that lacks

proper nutrients, which causes a depressed immune system. For more

information see the Folder " Germ & Antibody Theories Are False " and

look for the article " You do not " Catch " Germs, Bacteria or Viruses "

(This explains the Cause of Disease, including Candida & Cancer.)

==>The treatment for Lyme's and other diseases is the same: nutrients

direct from natural foods grown naturally and supplements in order to

build up the immune system so it will " make " the bugs change back

into the friendly organisms they are supposed to be in a healthy body.

> As I've talked to people this past half year about my achiness,

I've learned that there are A LOT of people who ache. I've also read

> that lymes disease is highly underdiagnosed. Why do so many people

> have lymes or fibromyalgia?

==>Fibromyalgia means " means muscle fiber pain " , which is caused by

toxins, along with many other arthritic diseases and symptoms. These

toxins move around the body too, so one day you will feel more pain

in one area and the next day it is in a different area. For more

information see " Arthritis and the Candida Connection " . To help

alleviate these symptoms, along with diet and supplements, do

everything you can to help your body detoxify - see the " C)

Treatments " Folder for " How to Detoxify Effectively. "

> In advance, thank you so much for your help. You are an answer to

> prayer!

==>It is my pleasure.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in which you could

get lymes

disease?  When I was young I spent a lot of time in AR where ticks are very

abundant and

always came home w/tick bites.  Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an

older

person?

You can't get it from regular ticks. You have to get bitten by a (tiny sized)

deer tick that is

carrying lyme disease.

Mara

[Guest guest]

I had optic neuritis in April 2000 and was diagnosed with MS in Apr

2004 and again in Aug 2006. My MRIs, with contrast, showed many brain

and spinal lesions. I took Rebif, which made me worse. I took

copaxone, which caused mini exacerbations after each injection. I

took LDN, which did nothing. (no effects were a step up). Then

intravenous EAP for one year. My right hand quit working in Aug 07.

I spent tine in the library studying and felt my sickness might be

Lyme disease. By this time I was in really shabby health. My

remaining energies were poured into finding and hiring a physician

that specializes in treating Lyme disease.

In March 08 I was diagnosed with Lyme disease and started antibiotic

therapy. The first few months were the " valley of the shadow of

death " . Finally, I feel like I'm pulling out of this mess. It has

been a very difficult road.

>

> With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in which

you could get lymes disease?  When I was young I spent a lot of time

in AR where ticks are very abundant and always came home w/tick

bites.  Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an older person?

>  

>

[Guest guest]

You can have the borrelia burgdorferi infection for decades without

being aware of it, as in Alzheimer's, where a growing body of evidence

suggests it is the causative agent (tau tangles and beta amyloid

plaques accumulate as a result of the infection).

Anyone diagnosed with MS should be evaluated for possible Lyme by a

competent Lyme-literate MD. A majority will be found to be positive.

Lesions seen on MRI scans between Lyme and non-Lyme MS are

indistinguishable.

http://www.lymeinfo.net/multiplesclerosis.html

>

> With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in which

you could get lymes disease?  When I was young I spent a lot of time

in AR where ticks are very abundant and always came home w/tick

bites.  Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an older person?

>  

>

[Guest guest]

I was diagnosed with MS by a MD clinical trial doc. Then I was

diagnosed with MS a second time by a neurologist reputed to " think

outside of the box " . I had many MS drugs fail on me. Now I'm in

extremely shabby shape and have been diagnosed by a compotent Lyme

Literate Medical doctor (LLMD) with Lyme disease and several coinfections.

I'm beginning to think that MS and Lyme are the same disease.

> >

> > With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in which

> you could get lymes disease?  When I was young I spent a lot of time

> in AR where ticks are very abundant and always came home w/tick

> bites.  Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an older person?

> >  

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I realize that the tick has to be a deer tick...but back 40 yrs ago they didn't know about Lymes Disease. The old farm was used for deer hunting in Nov for those who cared to hunt. Thank you so much for all the information from the group.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandi,

You should read about STARI (Southern Tick Associated Rash Illness)

Jodi

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> With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in which

you could get lymes disease? When I was young I spent a lot of time

in AR where ticks are very abundant and always came home w/tick

bites. Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an older person?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandie, as one that has had long term lyme disease, it is a big

misconception that Lyme disease is just carried by " tiny sized " deer

ticks. Any insect/vector can carry the lyme disease bacteria. It has

been proven that fleas, horseflies and even mosquitos can carry the

Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb) lyme disease bacterium. The Lyme disease

bacterium doesn't pick out just deer ticks to infiltrate.

" This Memorandum also states that other blood-sucking insects such as

mosquitoes, fleas and horseflies have also been found to be infected

with Bb. " " Let's try to avoid ALL ticks and other possible vectors,

not just what are commonly referred to as " deer ticks. "

http://www.publichealthalert.org/Articles/tinagarcia/abc%20of%20lyme%

20part%202.html

Also Lyme disease has often been diagnosed as MS so you might check

into this link.

http://www.lymeinfo.net/multiplesclerosis.html

V

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> > With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in

which you could get lymes

> disease?  When I was young I spent a lot of time in AR where ticks

are very abundant and

> always came home w/tick bites.  Could this have anything to do w/my

MS now as an older

> person?

>

> You can't get it from regular ticks. You have to get bitten by a

(tiny sized) deer tick that is

> carrying lyme disease.

>

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

After reading additional posts I found someone posted the same link I

did. Sorry for being redundant. As Lyme disease is many times

misdiagnosed as MS, so is ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). Lyme disease is

called the " great imitator " as it can have symptoms of many other

medical conditions. BTW for newbies it is Lyme disease not Lymes

disease. V

> > >

> > > With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in

which

> > you could get lymes disease?  When I was young I spent a lot of

time

> > in AR where ticks are very abundant and always came home w/tick

> > bites.  Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an older

person?

> > >  

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

thanks for any information, i think my multpiple sclerosis is misdiagnosed ten years ago i have an infection for fly pick and now i have strange progressive msFrom: maribob7 <myrv@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Lymes Diseaselow dose naltrexone Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:59 PM

After reading additional posts I found someone posted the same link I

did. Sorry for being redundant. As Lyme disease is many times

misdiagnosed as MS, so is ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). Lyme disease is

called the "great imitator" as it can have symptoms of many other

medical conditions. BTW for newbies it is Lyme disease not Lymes

disease. V

> > >

> > > With so much talk about Lymes vs MS-What is the time span in

which

> > you could get lymes disease? When I was young I spent a lot of

time

> > in AR where ticks are very abundant and always came home w/tick

> > bites. Could this have anything to do w/my MS now as an older

person?

> > >

> > >

> >

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