Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hi All I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about stopping the essiac. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hello . does your wife tike Essiac? I heard Essiac that it helps people with MS? It is very interesting. Please reply. Thank you, Svetlana From: johncarneint <john@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Ldn and Essiaclow dose naltrexone Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:35 PM Hi AllI just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea forthe past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, orwould it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried aboutstopping the essiac.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 > > From: johncarneint <john@...> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Ldn and Essiac > low dose naltrexone > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:35 PM > > > > > > > Hi All > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about > stopping the essiac. > > Thanks > > > Hi Svetlana My wife has cancer and is taking Essiac for 3 months and no she dosnt like it but has become to believe in it. Not sure if it is working Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 My wife and I have been taking Essiac 4 herb tea for three years. I would not stop taking it if I was taking LDN. Jack > > Hi All > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about > stopping the essiac. > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thank you for your reply. But i would like to ask you- how does Essiac work for you and your wife? Thanks From: Jack <jack.mill@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Ldn and Essiaclow dose naltrexone Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:02 PM My wife and I have been taking Essiac 4 herb tea for three years. I would not stop taking it if I was taking LDN.Jack>> Hi All> > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for> the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or> would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about> stopping the essiac.> > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hi Jack can you tell ne a little more about you and your wife i.e. why are you on Essiac. My wife is at stage iv with tumors in both lung's. She is off the Chemo 3 weeks now and after 4 shots of chemo the tumors reduced by 50% so we are on our own now. the next scan is in 6 weeks 5th Feb.. So any info helps. Thanks [low dose naltrexone] Re: Ldn and Essiac My wife and I have been taking Essiac 4 herb tea for three years. I would not stop taking it if I was taking LDN.Jack>> Hi All> > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for> the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or> would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about> stopping the essiac.> > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I lowered my PSA from 7.3 to 4.2 currently and it lowered my wife A1C from 8.3 to 6.1, this is a dramatic drop for a diabetic. Jack > > > > Hi All > > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for > > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or > > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about > > stopping the essiac. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 let me just first say I'm sorry related to what you and your wife are going through with the cancer. After I issued my first answers I got to thinking about a dear friends experience with cancer. I met her in a doctors office while doing chelation therapy for mercury poisoning. She was taking massove doses of intervenious vitamin C at the time in the amount of 100 grams IV, that's a lot of vitamin C. Her story goes something like this. She developed breast cancer when she was about 37 or so. She went the standard medical proceedure of surgery and chemo. This went on until she was so sick she could hardly do anything and the cancer had metastisized to other areas of her body and especially troublesome was a terrible constant cough from the tumors in her lungs. She was basically told to get her business in order go home and die. She decided to take matters into her own hands went to the Internet and studied up on alternative cancer treatments. She decided on what she felt she wanted to do and came to my alternative doctor and talked him into doing injections of massive doses of Vitamin C. To make a long story short after a series of IV vitamin C her blood work indicates there is no cancer. She doesn't cough any mores ETC. It's truly dramatic. We were often together while taking 3 to 4 hour IV's so we had plenty of time to discuss things releated to alternative medicine. I'm 77 and she's like a daughter to me at this point. She has a wonderful husband who is so patient and two kids 8 and ten years, she's now 40. She still takes the vitamin C IV's as much at this point as a preventive as anything. Jack > > > > Hi All > > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for > > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or > > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about > > stopping the essiac. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Jack, By any chance do you know or can you find out the exact IV Vitamin C protocol that your friend used i.e. how frequently she had the infusions in the beginning, how many infusions did she have until there were objective signs that it was working, and what is her maintenance schedule? And perhaps could you provide the name and contact details for the physician who administered the IV's to her? I have been following the developments of this for the past several years ever since the first study came out of the NIH suggesting this possibility for cancer therapy and I know that there is a clinical study going on at the University of Kansas presently for IV Vitamin C as an adjunct to chemo therapy for ovarian cancer. Thanks, Lagin low dose naltrexone From: jack.mill@...Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:36:38 +0000Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Ldn and Essiac let me just first say I'm sorry related to what you and your wife are going through with the cancer. After I issued my first answers I got to thinking about a dear friends experience with cancer.I met her in a doctors office while doing chelation therapy for mercury poisoning. She was taking massove doses of intervenious vitamin C at the time in the amount of 100 grams IV, that's a lot of vitamin C. Her story goes something like this. She developed breast cancer when she was about 37 or so. She went the standard medical proceedure of surgery and chemo. This went on until she was so sick she could hardly do anything and the cancer had metastisized to other areas of her body and especially troublesome was a terrible constant cough from the tumors in her lungs. She was basically told to get her business in order go home and die.She decided to take matters into her own hands went to the Internet and studied up on alternative cancer treatments. She decided on what she felt she wanted to do and came to my alternative doctor and talked him into doing injections of massive doses of Vitamin C.To make a long story short after a series of IV vitamin C her blood work indicates there is no cancer. She doesn't cough any mores ETC. It's truly dramatic. We were often together while taking 3 to 4 hour IV's so we had plenty of time to discuss things releated to alternative medicine. I'm 77 and she's like a daughter to me at this point. She has a wonderful husband who is so patient and two kids 8 and ten years, she's now 40.She still takes the vitamin C IV's as much at this point as a preventive as anything.Jack> >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 , I'm sorry but I will not tell you the name of the doctor. The State of Washington victimizes alternative doctors. My Dr. has been harassed to the point where he's nearly bankrupt from all the baseless actions takin by the State Medical Quality Assurance Board that has zero alternative doctors as members of the board. All the members of the board have been there since God made little green apples and they don't hesitate to come down on alternative/holistic Doctors. I'll try to get the other information you asked for. Jack > >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 > > >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been > taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it > is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She > is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > > >> > > > Hi again Jack My wife was told the same thing 4 months ago. She was given 2 months and told to go home and get her affairs in order. At this stage I had already done a lot of googling and found Essiac LDN and the Vitim c story. I cant remember where I read about Vitim C but it was a german Doctor said 6000mg a day of vitim c would kill cancer cell's. Because my wife was going through chemo and taking loads of anty sickness tablets I decided Essiac and 2000mg of vitim c would be a good start to fight the battle. You can get 1000mg vitim c tablets to make an orange drink for kids so 2 drinks a day. now that the chemo is over its 6 tea spoons full of Essiac washed down with 1000mg vitim c orange drink twice a day and a little LDN tab at bed time. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hi again Jack My wife was told the same thing 4 months ago. She was given 2 months and told to go home and get her affairs in order. At this stage I had already done a lot of googling and found Essiac LDN and the Vitim c story. I cant remember where I read about Vitim C but it was a german Doctor said 6000mg a day of vitim c would kill cancer cell's. Because my wife was going through chemo and taking loads of anty sickness tablets I decided Essiac and 2000mg of vitim c would be a good start to fight the battle. You can get 1000mg vitim c tablets to make an orange drink for kids so 2 drinks a day. now that the chemo is over its 6 tea spoons full of Essiac washed down with 1000mg vitim c orange drink twice a day and a little LDN tab at bed time. Thanks > > >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been > taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it > is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She > is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 LDN is no longer " Alternative Medicine " . The double blind study out of italy proves positive that it is safe and effective and STOPS THE PROGRSSION of PMS. Read the abstract at: www.googleldn.com > > >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been > taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it > is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She > is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thanks Jack. Any specific protocol information you can provide will be very helpful. low dose naltrexone From: jack.mill@...Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:31:55 +0000Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Ldn and Essiac ,I'm sorry but I will not tell you the name of the doctor. The State of Washington victimizes alternative doctors. My Dr. has been harassed to the point where he's nearly bankrupt from all the baseless actions takin by the State Medical Quality Assurance Board that has zero alternative doctors as members of the board. All the members of the board have been there since God made little green apples and they don't hesitate to come down on alternative/holistic Doctors.I'll try to get the other information you asked for.Jack> >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Joe, Jack was not referring to LDN in his answer to me but rather to IV Vitamin C therapy for the treatment of cancer. Lagin low dose naltrexone From: joseph.wouk@...Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:51:45 +0000Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Ldn and Essiac LDN is no longer "Alternative Medicine". The double blind study outof italy proves positive that it is safe and effective and STOPS THEPROGRSSION of PMS. Read the abstract at: www.googleldn.com--- In low dose naltrexone , "Jack" <jack.mill@...> wrote:>> ,> I'm sorry but I will not tell you the name of the doctor. The State > of Washington victimizes alternative doctors. My Dr. has been > harassed to the point where he's nearly bankrupt from all the > baseless actions takin by the State Medical Quality Assurance Board > that has zero alternative doctors as members of the board. All the > members of the board have been there since God made little green > apples and they don't hesitate to come down on alternative/holistic > Doctors.> > I'll try to get the other information you asked for.> > Jack> > > > >> > Hi All> > > > I just got LDN for my wife tonight. She has been > taking Essiac tea for> > the past few months. Does anybody know if it > is ok to take both, or> > would it be an advantage to take both. She > is a bit worried about> > stopping the essiac.> > > > Thanks > > > > > > >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hello! I am Zoltan from Romania and I take LDN for MS. I have a friend with cancer and I want to help her. Please tell me what is mean "IV VITAMIN C"? I understand that she should take masive dose of vit C(100 gram) in many dose. Thank you!! Zoltan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 iv vit c means vit c via infusion. > > > > if (typeof == " undefined " ) { > var = {}; > } > .Shortcuts = .Shortcuts || {}; > .Shortcuts.hasSensitiveText = true; > .Shortcuts.sensitivityType = [ " illegal " ]; > .Shortcuts.doUlt = false; > .Shortcuts.location = " us " ; > .Shortcuts.document_id = 0; > .Shortcuts.document_type = " " ; > .Shortcuts.document_title = " Re: Ldn and Essiac " ; > .Shortcuts.document_publish_date = " " ; > .Shortcuts.document_author = " zoltanpallo@... " ; > .Shortcuts.document_url = " " ; > .Shortcuts.document_tags = " " ; > .Shortcuts.document_language = " english " ; > .Shortcuts.annotationSet = { > " lw_1229843055_0 " : { > " text " : " Romania " , > " extended " : 0, > " startchar " : 155, > " endchar " : 161, > " start " : 155, > " end " : 161, > " extendedFrom " : " " , > " predictedCategory " : " PLACE " , > " predictionProbability " : " 0.879298 " , > " weight " : 0.190594, > " relScore " : 3.76952, > " type " : [ " shortcuts:/us/instance/place/destination " , " shortcuts:/us/instance/ place/ro/country " ], > " category " : [ " PLACE " ], > " wikiId " : " Romania " , > " relatedWikiIds " : [ " Albania " , " Bucharest " , " Bulgaria " , " Denmark " , " Germany " , " Hungary " , " Italy " , " Poland " , " Russia " , " Ukraine " ], > " relatedEntities " : [ " bulgaria " , " denmark " , " estonia " , " germany " , " hungary " , " latvia " , " n etherlands " , " poland " , " slovakia " , " ukraine " ], > " showOnClick " : [], > " context " : " Hello! I am Zoltan from Romania and I take LDN for MS. I have a friend " , > " metaData " : { > " geoArea " : " 237360 " , > " geoCountry " : " Romania " , > " geoIsoCountryCode " : " RO " , > " geoLocation " : " (24.9804, 45.946949) " , > " geoName " : " Romania " , > " geoPlaceType " : " Country " , > " type " : " shortcuts:/us/instance/place/ro/country " , > " visible " : " true " > } > } > }; > .Shortcuts.headerID = " 8838e674fc7377e41c87931751eaf7bc " ; > > > > > > > > Hello! > I am Zoltan from Romania and I take LDN for MS. > I have a friend with cancer and I want to help her. > Please tell me what is mean " IV VITAMIN C " ? > I understand that she should take masive dose of vit C(100 gram) in many dose. > Thank you!! > Zoltan > > > hasEML = false; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 "IV Vitamin C" means Vitamin C given to a person intravenously like a blood transfusion. The person sits in a chair and then Vitamin C is given to them over the course of a few hours, several days a week. The current thinking is to build up to about 100 grams of Vitamin C per infusion once you make sure that a person will not have an adverse reaction to the Vitamin C. The theory is that if you are able to keep a certain amount of Vitamin C in a persons body for a long enough period it will be cytotoxic to cancer cells or in other words it will kill the cancer cells. The theory has been around for many years but recently was given new attention because of a study done in 2006/2006 by Mark Levine at the National Institute of Health. There is one clinical trial currently ongoing at the University of Kansas and the doctors there will make the IV Vitamin C protocol they are using available to anyone as long a a doctor makes a request for the information. Their contact details are: (Becky) SheppardPatient Service CoordinatorDr. Jeanne DriskoDr. Deena KhoshProgram in Integrative MedicineUniversity of Kansas Medical Center Mail Stop 20283901 Rainbow Blvd.Kansas City, KS 66160 Phone: 913-588-6208Fax: 913-588-0012Email: rsheppard@...http://integrativemed.kumc.edu/ low dose naltrexone From: zoltanpallo@...Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:04:56 -0800Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Ldn and Essiac Hello! I am Zoltan from Romania and I take LDN for MS. I have a friend with cancer and I want to help her. Please tell me what is mean "IV VITAMIN C"? I understand that she should take masive dose of vit C(100 gram) in many dose. Thank you!! Zoltan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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