Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Thanks Barb, I had sent away for Candida Yeast info and knew it could cause so many symptoms we attribute to LD. But I stopped my abx's, going on two months now, and have been diligently working on my yeast problem. Taking Diflucan, Nystatin, Acidophilus, eating yogurt, low carb diet. Still can't get rid of it, but it is better. I have to start back on abx's next month - waiting as long as I can to get rid of the yeast. I have horrible thrush. So thanks for this info, now I can give this infor to my doctor - I've been telling him all along that I thought most of my IBS symptoms were due to Yeast. I have a question for you; do you know why Dr. Burrascano recommends " Plain Yogurt " , I compared the carbs and sugar contents of the plain yogurt with light fruit yogurts, and in most cases the Plain yogurt had more of both - carbs and sugar. The only thing I can think of is that the fruit yogurt has fructose and the Plain must have a different type of sugar. Do you know if that's the case? I tried plain and just cannot eat it, I thought of putting my liquid saccharin in it, any suggestions on how to eat this awful stuff? Thanks again, Vicki, Md Subject: [ ] Symptoms dominantly ascribed to intestinal Candida I have not researched the references that are cited at the end of this article, (I did not include them. They are at the site.) We know this is a major problem with our antibiotic treatment of LD., but I never really paid much attention to the fact that the Candidia could be causing some of the symptoms that we attribute to LD. Barb F. - MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 have ya tried any cleansing programs with all the herbies? or How about Pau D'Arco, garlic, Gentian, etc??? There are tons of herbal combos at the HFS. I can't do it alone. I have to do the herbals, antifungals, and strict low carb. I mean..BASIC diet, like steamed veggies and meat..thats it. I do that for a couple weeks then gradually add on to the diet and see how I react. Or how about switching back and forth from the Diflucan, then go to Nizoril or Sporanox? I've read that the yeast can become resistant so some people alternate. Anita (who's fading fast from a sinus infection) [ ] Symptoms dominantly ascribed to intestinal Candida > > > >I have not researched the references that are cited at the end of this >article, (I did not include them. They are at the site.) We know this >is a major problem with our antibiotic treatment of LD., but I never >really paid much attention to the fact that the Candidia could be >causing some of the symptoms that we attribute to LD. > >Barb F. - MI > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroups eLerts >It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! >1/3079/5/_/484634/_/955649171/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send to -Offtopiconelist messages unrelated to Lyme, please. >Archives can be found at: >/group/lyme-aid. >They are filed by month, pick a month and search those archives for subjects you are interested. >Lyme chat, go to this URL: >/chat/lyme-aid >Should you have trouble opening the page, go back to / and make sure you are registered with a password. You can ask ONELIST to remember you, and will only have to do this one time. >To unsubscribe, send email to -unsubscribeonelist >You may substitute " subscribe " , or " digest " or " normal " for >the word " unsubscribe " ( " normal " is the opposite of " digest " ). Leave blank both the message and subject header. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Thanks Barb, I had sent away for Candida Yeast info and knew it could cause so many symptoms we attribute to LD. But I stopped my abx's, going on two months now, and have been diligently working on my yeast problem. Taking Diflucan, Nystatin, Acidophilus, eating yogurt, low carb diet. Still can't get rid of it, but it is better. I have to start back on abx's next month - waiting as long as I can to get rid of the yeast. I have horrible thrush. So thanks for this info, now I can give this infor to my doctor - I've been telling him all along that I thought most of my IBS symptoms were due to Yeast. I have a question for you; do you know why Dr. Burrascano recommends " Plain Yogurt " , I compared the carbs and sugar contents of the plain yogurt with light fruit yogurts, and in most cases the Plain yogurt had more of both - carbs and sugar. The only thing I can think of is that the fruit yogurt has fructose and the Plain must have a different type of sugar. Do you know if that's the case? I tried plain and just cannot eat it, I thought of putting my liquid saccharin in it, any suggestions on how to eat this awful stuff? Thanks again, Vicki, Md Subject: [ ] Symptoms dominantly ascribed to intestinal Candida I have not researched the references that are cited at the end of this article, (I did not include them. They are at the site.) We know this is a major problem with our antibiotic treatment of LD., but I never really paid much attention to the fact that the Candidia could be causing some of the symptoms that we attribute to LD. Barb F. - MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 have ya tried any cleansing programs with all the herbies? or How about Pau D'Arco, garlic, Gentian, etc??? There are tons of herbal combos at the HFS. I can't do it alone. I have to do the herbals, antifungals, and strict low carb. I mean..BASIC diet, like steamed veggies and meat..thats it. I do that for a couple weeks then gradually add on to the diet and see how I react. Or how about switching back and forth from the Diflucan, then go to Nizoril or Sporanox? I've read that the yeast can become resistant so some people alternate. Anita (who's fading fast from a sinus infection) [ ] Symptoms dominantly ascribed to intestinal Candida > > > >I have not researched the references that are cited at the end of this >article, (I did not include them. They are at the site.) We know this >is a major problem with our antibiotic treatment of LD., but I never >really paid much attention to the fact that the Candidia could be >causing some of the symptoms that we attribute to LD. > >Barb F. - MI > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroups eLerts >It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! >1/3079/5/_/484634/_/955649171/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send to -Offtopiconelist messages unrelated to Lyme, please. >Archives can be found at: >/group/lyme-aid. >They are filed by month, pick a month and search those archives for subjects you are interested. >Lyme chat, go to this URL: >/chat/lyme-aid >Should you have trouble opening the page, go back to / and make sure you are registered with a password. You can ask ONELIST to remember you, and will only have to do this one time. >To unsubscribe, send email to -unsubscribeonelist >You may substitute " subscribe " , or " digest " or " normal " for >the word " unsubscribe " ( " normal " is the opposite of " digest " ). Leave blank both the message and subject header. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 In a message dated 4/13/00 2:07:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ferraroa@... writes: << had sent away for Candida Yeast info and knew it could cause so many symptoms we attribute to LD. But I stopped my abx's, going on two months now, and have been diligently working on my yeast problem. Taking Diflucan, Nystatin, Acidophilus, eating yogurt, low carb diet. Still can't get rid of it, but it is better. >> Hi {{{Vicki}}} I have just started taking Nystatin, almost 2 weeks now, but don't feel any different. I have cut out the sugar and cut down on the carbs. I LOVE MY CARBS : ( and its soooo hard for me to give them up, I have taken Diflucan in the past and it worked well in the beginning , but then for some reason , it just stopped working. I have never used them together, can you tell me what doses your taking on each ? I am thinking abt trying them together, maybe that will be more effective. Also, did you know that you can get a Nystatin Liquid for the thrush? Yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 In a message dated 4/13/00 2:07:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ferraroa@... writes: << had sent away for Candida Yeast info and knew it could cause so many symptoms we attribute to LD. But I stopped my abx's, going on two months now, and have been diligently working on my yeast problem. Taking Diflucan, Nystatin, Acidophilus, eating yogurt, low carb diet. Still can't get rid of it, but it is better. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2000 Report Share Posted April 15, 2000 I'd been using a product called Yeast Cleanse for a while, after a raging yeast infection developed while on Ceftin+Doryx. I switched to Oregamax, and feel it's been doing a much better job than the Yeast Cleanse had done (it also contains garlic). I was told to get the brand by North American Spice & Herb Co., so I did. Also, I've been using bromelain for inflammation - I think the info on it at www.gnc.com says it's good for sinusitis, too. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2000 Report Share Posted April 16, 2000 I'd been using a product called Yeast Cleanse for a while, after a raging yeast infection developed while on Ceftin+Doryx. I switched to Oregamax, and feel it's been doing a much better job than the Yeast Cleanse had done (it also contains garlic). I was told to get the brand by North American Spice & Herb Co., so I did. Also, I've been using bromelain for inflammation - I think the info on it at www.gnc.com says it's good for sinusitis, too. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2000 Report Share Posted April 20, 2000 Sue, I've been meaning to thank you for this information, sorry I'm so late, just been hectic last few days. I will check out these product, hope they help me like they do for you. thanks again, Vicki, Md I'd been using a product called Yeast Cleanse for a while, after a raging yeast infection developed while on Ceftin+Doryx. I switched to Oregamax, and feel it's been doing a much better job than the Yeast Cleanse had done (it also contains garlic). I was told to get the brand by North American Spice & Herb Co., so I did. Also, I've been using bromelain for inflammation - I think the info on it at www.gnc.com says it's good for sinusitis, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In a message dated 4/3/03 11:29:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, piecesofyou7@... writes: > some of the whitish stuff attached to the stool are just > little dots, but it's this whitish mucousy looking thing, and does > anyone know if this is what the candida looks like? > Mine looked like little cotton balls attached to the outside of the stool. Or sometimes it looks like a mucusy white or yellow sheath around the stool. Hanida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 What product are you taking, the protease/cellulase supplement? What is it called? > From: " piecesofyou7 " <piecesofyou7@...> > Reply-candidiasis > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 16:27:13 -0000 > candidiasis > Subject: candida question > > i have been on a candida diet, which worked well the first week, and > not as well this week ( i have been cheating a little) > and i'm taking this product that eats the candida up > (protease/cellulase supplement) and anyway, the first week was great, > i went to the bathroom 3-4 times per day, and i figured this was the > candida dying off. > > this week, it's harder to go, and when i go, (i looked at my stool) > and i notice these white streaks on the stool. it doesn't look like > worms, some of the whitish stuff attached to the stool are just > little dots, but it's this whitish mucousy looking thing, and does > anyone know if this is what the candida looks like? > > sorry to be so graphic here, i'm just trying to figure this candida > thing out > thanks > mle > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2003 Report Share Posted April 6, 2003 > In a message dated 4/3/03 11:29:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, > piecesofyou7@a... writes: > > > some of the whitish stuff attached to the stool are just > > little dots, but it's this whitish mucousy looking thing, and does > > anyone know if this is what the candida looks like? > > > > Mine looked like little cotton balls attached to the outside of the stool. > Or sometimes it looks like a mucusy white or yellow sheath around the stool. > > Hanida > so when the candida comes out in your stool with this supplement do the symptoms improve? I have tried many diets and herbs and although this latest diet has helped remendously I still have symptoms. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Chances are the IV would be a glucose IV... so i assume the candida would go about it's merry way with a direct and pure supply of sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I think those IV fluids generally contain dextrose, so in that case, no. Dextrose is a form of sugar. Zack On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Doris Huaman wrote: > bee, > > here's a silly question. hypothetically, if we were sick for 10 years and we went into a coma for 10 months where we only got iv fluids, could we become well? > > doris > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 It is my understandding that in that ccase you would also have a feeding tube and they would give you formula with alsorts of nasties in it. AND they would not be giving you the supplements you needed to healing. Kara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 My husband and I were talking about IV's a while back and we could not figure out if IV fluids get to your liver and are processed. And/or do they get to your digestive system? > > > I think those IV fluids generally contain dextrose, so in that case, no. > Dextrose is a form of sugar. > > Zack > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Hi all, My mother (lupus) just took her first dose of LDN, 3 mg, last night, and reported that she was able to get up and walk to the bathroom this morning without leaning on the furniture at all! A first for a very long time. I have a question - she has a tendency toward yeast overgrowth. I recall reading here that this can effect ldn effectiveness, but in my search on this site I'm not getting a clear answer as to what she should look for. Is is simply lack of effectiveness? Or exacerbation of symptoms? Other? Advice I should give her, knowing she has this tendency? Thanks! Durga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 It was my experience that I did feel flu like until I started treating the Candida. I also have lupus and while the energy improved right away, I did have joint pains and flu like symptoms in the evening. Tell her to take it very easy the first few weeks. I know it feels fabulous to finally get that energy back, but her body isn't repairing as fast as the energy is coming back and it is important to take it slow. Things went much better when I took it easier and gave myself time to ramp up activities. I also improved all around a lot faster once I started treating the Candida. I get tiny mini-flares (some petichial rashes and slight fatigue for a couple days), but it's not debilitating like it used to be. Cami SLE LDN since March 2008 > > Hi all, > > My mother (lupus) just took her first dose of LDN, 3 mg, last night, and reported that she was > able to get up and walk to the bathroom this morning without leaning on the furniture at all! > A first for a very long time. > > I have a question - she has a tendency toward yeast overgrowth. I recall reading here that > this can effect ldn effectiveness, but in my search on this site I'm not getting a clear answer > as to what she should look for. > > Is is simply lack of effectiveness? Or exacerbation of symptoms? Other? Advice I should give > her, knowing she has this tendency? > > Thanks! > Durga > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 hi cami did you get flu like symptoms from ldn before you treated the candida? i tried 2x to start ldn and it helped the arthritis but made me so sick - nausea dizziness fatigue. wondering why that was and what i can do re it. thanks monique It was my experience that I did feel flu like until I started treating the Candida. I also have lupus and while the energy improved right away, I did have joint pains and flu like symptoms in the evening. Tell her to take it very easy the first few weeks. I know it feels fabulous to finally get that energy back, but her body isn't repairing as fast as the energy is coming back and it is important to take it slow. Things went much better when I took it easier and gave myself time to ramp up activities. I also improved all around a lot faster once I started treating the Candida. I get tiny mini-flares (some petichial rashes and slight fatigue for a couple days), but it's not debilitating like it used to be. Cami SLE LDN since March 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Yes, I've found that if I'm not treating the Candida, I have flu like symptoms. I ran out of Nystatin and am currently " Sick " although I'm not sure if it's because the yeast growth is back or if I was exposed to something (I'm betting on Candida). If I were you I would get tested. Others have found a positive Lyme test with those symptoms as well (although that wasn't the case for me). Cami > > hi cami > > did you get flu like symptoms from ldn before you treated the candida? i > tried 2x to start ldn and it helped the arthritis but made me so sick - > nausea dizziness fatigue. wondering why that was and what i can do re it. > > thanks > monique > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 > > I had a question concerning Candida. I noticed that if I don't eat a meal right away I seem to feel worse. I also noticed that if I eat something that has sugar in it my symptoms seem to lessen all though I still feel pretty bad. +++Hi Theo. The reason you feel better is because your body still hasn't switched over to running on high good fats, rather than running on glucose/sugars, so the carbs are probably alleviating blood sugar increases. It takes at least 4 months on high enough fats and low enough carbs to switch over. +++So ensure you are calculating your protein to fat to carb ratios and entering your foods into www.fitday.com - see this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods8.php **** Also I have Celiac Disease and I read that the Candida fungus protein is very similar to the protein gluten and continues to cause an auto immune response. Is this true? +++You will continue to get celiac symptoms until your body has completely " retraced " all previous symptoms you had - see this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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