Re: DMSA-mixing and oxidation - some Andy postings on the subject

[Guest guest]

Since this is such a popular topic lately, here is a collection of

Andy's postings on DMSA oxidation and how to store it in juices, etc.

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http://onibasu.com/archives/am/98819.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/98820.html

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/120350.html

Btw, another alternative to breaking capsules is to find a compounding

pharmacy that can make capsules (of DMSA, ALA, or DMSA+ALA) in

whatever dose sizes that you want. That's more expensive, but also

saves the work/worrying.

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> > > Is it okay, if starting with just dmsa/every 4 hours - to mix it

> into

> > > water just before dosing ?

> >

> >

> > You can put it in water or food right before dosing.

> >

> >

> >

> > The caps I have are 25mg. What is the best

> > > way to start at 5 mg per dose ?

> >

> >

> > Get some empty capsules and split one 25 mg cap into five empties.

> > Other people just divide it into five piles and put into little

> paper

> > cups or other containers.

> >

> > You can buy empty capsules at places like Whole Foods, Vitamin

> Shoppe,

> > or from many online vendors. Here's a place where you can buy many

> > different sizes of capsules:

> >

> > http://www.capsuline.com

> >

> > --

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for finding these links on DMSA oxidation.. I've added them to

the following wiki page (which had only a few of Andy's posts on this

subject before):

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol#Forms_of_dosing

Jay

> > > >

> > > > Is it okay, if starting with just dmsa/every 4 hours - to mix

it

> > into

> > > > water just before dosing ?

> > >

> > >

> > > You can put it in water or food right before dosing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The caps I have are 25mg. What is the best

> > > > way to start at 5 mg per dose ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Get some empty capsules and split one 25 mg cap into five

empties.

> > > Other people just divide it into five piles and put into little

> > paper

> > > cups or other containers.

> > >

> > > You can buy empty capsules at places like Whole Foods, Vitamin

> > Shoppe,

> > > or from many online vendors. Here's a place where you can buy

many

> > > different sizes of capsules:

> > >

> > > http://www.capsuline.com

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for the posts.

The info I gathered from them is if I break open a capsule of DMSA I should

re-capsule the remainder until I am ready to use it.

Hope I got it right now.

Because it will oxidize, whetehr in liquid or open to the air in powder form.

It can be mixed with water if RIGHT before dosing.

 

Is this correct ?

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, Jay. Great wiki, btw.

Might it also be possible to add this?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pNNg2ghmPcBTKUD6u89SaFg & hl=en

That's a spreadsheet that I developed showing Andy's *rough* estimates

of brain mercury decay using the data from one of the other postings

on your wiki.

It hasn't been officially blessed by Andy, but I think it's ok.

[i've always wondered whether the range in decay rates was due to

dosing at 1/8th vs. 1/2 mg per lb, or whether it was due to individual

differences. That's quite a range... If you know, please advise.]

[Guest guest]

I would like to see Andy's comments on the estimates before including

them in the wiki. Especially because the people most interested in it

are probably those just starting out and those who are frustrated

with progress. I did come across an old post of his saying he thinks

it takes between 100-300 rounds for a mercury poisoned child to

become really healthy. It would be good to get an updated view on how

long it takes to finish the whole process & see how well it fits the

estimates.

Jay

>

> Thanks so much, Jay. Great wiki, btw.

>

> Might it also be possible to add this?

> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pNNg2ghmPcBTKUD6u89SaFg & hl=en

>

> That's a spreadsheet that I developed showing Andy's *rough*

estimates

> of brain mercury decay using the data from one of the other postings

> on your wiki.

>

> It hasn't been officially blessed by Andy, but I think it's ok.

>

> [i've always wondered whether the range in decay rates was due to

> dosing at 1/8th vs. 1/2 mg per lb, or whether it was due to

individual

> differences. That's quite a range... If you know, please advise.]

>

[Guest guest]

Andy's comments are always welcome, but the spreadsheet is little more

than a graphing of this rough estimate from him (which came from your

wiki):

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/113375.html

I asked him about it previously, and he seemed fine with it as long as

people knew that it was a rough estimate. Hence I tried to emphasize

that in the graph title.

Hope this helps.

> >

> > Thanks so much, Jay. Great wiki, btw.

> >

> > Might it also be possible to add this?

> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pNNg2ghmPcBTKUD6u89SaFg & hl=en

> >

> > That's a spreadsheet that I developed showing Andy's *rough*

> estimates

> > of brain mercury decay using the data from one of the other postings

> > on your wiki.

> >

> > It hasn't been officially blessed by Andy, but I think it's ok.

> >

> > [i've always wondered whether the range in decay rates was due to

> > dosing at 1/8th vs. 1/2 mg per lb, or whether it was due to

> individual

> > differences. That's quite a range... If you know, please advise.]

> >

>