Re: Hair Test Please Help/ Andy

[Guest guest]

Hi Sophie

You are right this does not meet any counting rules although it is 1

short of counting rule 3 and technically speaking 1 short of counting

rule 5.

As aluminium is very high along with fairly elevated levels of

antimony, nickel and tin, and as mercury is very low this is often

associated with mercury toxicity, therefore in my opinion there is

more than a reasonable likelihood that mercury toxicity is present

although not conclusive.

Most of the ratios are fine except for the following

sodium/ potassium is low (ref range 1-5) 0.49 on the hair test

which suggests that your dd is not producing a lot of adrenaline this

often suggests poor mood and may well be related to the Zinc/cadmium

ratio ref range (>8oo) hair test 739 and also copper being very high

this also suggests low adrenal function and may also suggest that

cadmium in the yellow is more toxic than it would otherwise be.

Also the Zinc/copper ratio is low too (ref range 4-20) hair test 2.66

Normally I would suggest chelation with ALA perhaps combined with

DMSA if cadmium is a problem or if your dd is like my son and has

trouble with ALA alone as per Andy's protocol. I think that this will

have to be done at some stage but from what I have read in Andy's HTI

book it may be wise to get the copper levels down 1st.

For this to be done Zinc should be given with every meal and

Molybdenum (10-30mcg per pound of body weight per child) and

supplements that improve bile flow such as Taurine glycine, milk

thistle Also Vitamin C should be helpful.

I would also ask for Andy's help regarding this test particularly

regarding the Zinc/Cadmium ratio and the high copper levels with

regard to chelation.

As you may have noticed I have changed the heading putting in Andy in

the hope of attracting his attention as I feel his help would be

useful here, as the copper level is below 75 he may feel that

chelation can start sooner.

I'm sorry that I could not be more definitive regarding the high

copper.

All the best Kenny

> Hi All, I posted dd s hair test in the hair test files here under

> sophie's hair test :

>

> Autism-

> Mercury/files/HairTests/Sophie%27s%20Hair%20Test/

>

> By my counting and limited understanding of the counting rules, it

does

> not appear to meet the counting rules. I do realize that this does

not

> mean that there is no mercury present.

>

> what s up with the high Copper and Aluminium and Cadimum where in

the

> world does that come from. DMSA help with the metals present ?

> I have been reading that zinc can help bring down the Copper

> she is excreting it so i guess that is good ?

>

> Anyhow i have been quietly learning from the group for a while now

> I would appreciate help from you kind experts on this topic.

>

[Guest guest]

I'd reason a little differently but I'd get the same place Ken did here

> Normally I would suggest chelation with ALA perhaps combined with

> DMSA if cadmium is a problem or if your dd is like my son and has

> trouble with ALA alone as per Andy's protocol. I think that this will

> have to be done at some stage but from what I have read in Andy's HTI

> book it may be wise to get the copper levels down 1st.

> For this to be done Zinc should be given with every meal and

> Molybdenum (10-30mcg per pound of body weight per child) and

> supplements that improve bile flow such as Taurine glycine, milk

> thistle Also Vitamin C should be helpful.

Andy

[Guest guest]

ok so it sounds like i need to work on lowering Cu.

Ken is also suggesting that Hg may still be present, and

i recently got french porphyrins test results indicating moderate

mercury and xenobiotic toxicity.

Should i be considering DMSA only until Cu comes down ?

any idea how long this may take ? and what would be the best way to

monitor Cu level ?

After Cu drops to normal then start DMSA + ALA ?

-sophie

>

> I'd reason a little differently but I'd get the same place Ken did

here

>

> > Normally I would suggest chelation with ALA perhaps combined with

> > DMSA if cadmium is a problem or if your dd is like my son and has

> > trouble with ALA alone as per Andy's protocol. I think that this

will

> > have to be done at some stage but from what I have read in Andy's

HTI

> > book it may be wise to get the copper levels down 1st.

> > For this to be done Zinc should be given with every meal and

> > Molybdenum (10-30mcg per pound of body weight per child) and

> > supplements that improve bile flow such as Taurine glycine, milk

> > thistle Also Vitamin C should be helpful.

>

> Andy

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I'd reason a little differently but I'd get the same place Ken did

> here

> >

> > > Normally I would suggest chelation with ALA perhaps combined with

> > > DMSA if cadmium is a problem or if your dd is like my son and has

> > > trouble with ALA alone as per Andy's protocol. I think that this

> will

> > > have to be done at some stage but from what I have read in Andy's

> HTI

> > > book it may be wise to get the copper levels down 1st.

> > > For this to be done Zinc should be given with every meal and

> > > Molybdenum (10-30mcg per pound of body weight per child) and

> > > supplements that improve bile flow such as Taurine glycine, milk

> > > thistle Also Vitamin C should be helpful.

> >

> > Andy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks so much Andy, Ken, and for your responses

Andy,

I am looking forward to reading your books when they arrive.

I would also like to reserve the right or rather privilege of asking

another question or two to all of you kind and knowledgeable souls.

-sophie

In , " andrewhallcutler "

<AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

>

> > >

> > > I'd reason a little differently but I'd get the same place Ken

did

> > here

> > >

> > > > Normally I would suggest chelation with ALA perhaps combined

with

> > > > DMSA if cadmium is a problem or if your dd is like my son and

has

> > > > trouble with ALA alone as per Andy's protocol. I think that

this

> > will

> > > > have to be done at some stage but from what I have read in

Andy's

> > HTI

> > > > book it may be wise to get the copper levels down 1st.

> > > > For this to be done Zinc should be given with every meal and

> > > > Molybdenum (10-30mcg per pound of body weight per child) and

> > > > supplements that improve bile flow such as Taurine glycine,

milk

> > > > thistle Also Vitamin C should be helpful.

> > >

> > > Andy

> > >

> >

>