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Pam, you didnt mention your age. I am 43 and in the first challenge found

that in order to lose the weight, I really had to cut back on the carbs after

the noon meal. I am going to guess that you are quite a bit younger because

I have not heard of a woman close to my age that could tolerate all that

phen-free!! I applaud your discipline in having all your meals truly broke

down into the six meals. Again, I would take a look at that bread and even

the myoplex late in the evening. Cyn

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I think your eating looks great. Just keep in check on portion control. Are

you having any problems with hunger or energy? If not. Then don't worry. If

you are then let us know so we can work on it.

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> " I am also having a hard time with proteins. I would like to eat

more

> veggies, like say for lunch some tomato, celery or a salad. I

cannot

> tolerate cottage cheese and I am not the biggest tuna fan, although

I have

> been eating it (and washing it down with water) because of the high

protein

> content!! "

>

Cheryl,

Just a suggestion--cottage cheese tastes much better if you do eat

fruit with it. Try Tofu--it's inexpensive and basically has no

taste. Chop some up and add it to your eggs or even a salad. Also

excellent for " Smoothies " in place of yogurt and then you don't have

to worry about excess carbs. I use salsa for salad dressing and then

the tofu would pick up the taste of the salsa and it you wouldn't

know it's there! Also, someone mentioned " Pumpkorn " . I tried these--

they were excellent!! They are pumpkin seeds that come in different

flavors. (Maple vanilla was very good and helps a sweet-tooth.)

There was a minimal amount of sugar in them but for 1/3 cup, it has

19g protein! They also have 11g fat but it is the Omega 9,6,3's-the

fats that are good for you!

Hope this helps,

Donna H.

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> " I am also having a hard time with proteins. I would like to eat

more

> veggies, like say for lunch some tomato, celery or a salad. I

cannot

> tolerate cottage cheese and I am not the biggest tuna fan, although

I have

> been eating it (and washing it down with water) because of the high

protein

> content!! "

>

Cheryl,

Just a suggestion--cottage cheese tastes much better if you do eat

fruit with it. Try Tofu--it's inexpensive and basically has no

taste. Chop some up and add it to your eggs or even a salad. Also

excellent for " Smoothies " in place of yogurt and then you don't have

to worry about excess carbs. I use salsa for salad dressing and then

the tofu would pick up the taste of the salsa and it you wouldn't

know it's there! Also, someone mentioned " Pumpkorn " . I tried these--

they were excellent!! They are pumpkin seeds that come in different

flavors. (Maple vanilla was very good and helps a sweet-tooth.)

There was a minimal amount of sugar in them but for 1/3 cup, it has

19g protein! They also have 11g fat but it is the Omega 9,6,3's-the

fats that are good for you!

Hope this helps,

Donna H.

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That's great advice Sara, I too enjoy making a meal out of Precision

Protein and a piece of fruit. It does help you to avoid the " shake "

monotony. I usually just mix up 1 1/2 scoops of PP in a cup of water

and down it in two gulps, then enjoy an orange, banana, grapefruit,

or whatever happens to be lying around. That's easy to do anywhere

there is a water fountain, so it's perfect for work or traveling.

I've found that Precision Protein mixes up pretty well, so you don't

necessarily need a shaker or blender, just a spoon (or even a finger

if no spoon is available) and a cup.

Jarel

> Cheryl,

>

> I'm not sure what Hussman says about fruit - I haven't read it in a

long time although it helped me tremendously in the beginning. I

will tell you how I feel. I follow Body for Life the way it is

written and, according to the book, you are allowed fruit as your

carbohydrate. I love fruit and feel like it is a valuable part of my

nutrition for all of the vitamins and minerals from real food. I

have never worried about the glycemic index of food simply because I

never read anything about it in the book. I now know that I could

tweak a lot of things and probably shave a little bodyfat off if I

would worry about the GI, BUT this is a lifestyle for me and not

eating fruit does not fit into my lifestyle.

>

> As for protein, as you have figured out by know tuna, cottage

cheese and egg whites go a long way in providing you a portion of

protein. I do eat egg beaters for a change but you have to eat a lot

of them to get what you need - I usually eat cottage cheese with it.

I know you don't want to drink more shakes but would you consider

plain protein - such as Precision Protein - where you get your

portion of protein but still need to add a carb? I do that instead

of shakes sometimes because I want to eat fruit. This has worked for

me. I'll be the first to say that if it didn't work for me, I'm sure

I'd start making " tweaks " that aren't in the book. I'm NOT saying

you shouldn't change the program but my advice is to work the program

as written for 12 weeks and then re-evaluate and see if you need to

change it up. Give it the whole 12 weeks to see if it will work for

you.

>

> Sorry for being so long-winded!

>

> Sara

>

>

> OK - after going through Hussman's report for the third time now

(every time

> I read it I pick up something new), I'm a little confused about

eating

> fruits and any help you all can give would be great. I love fruit

and would

> like to be able to eat a piece now and then.

>

> I am also having a hard time with proteins. I would like to eat

more

> veggies, like say for lunch some tomato, celery or a salad. I

cannot

> tolerate cottage cheese and I am not the biggest tuna fan, although

I have

> been eating it (and washing it down with water) because of the high

protein

> content!!

>

> Any help anyone can give regarding the above would be much

appreciated.

> Just looking for other alternatives - I don't want to get into the

habit of

> more shakes to supplement - I do two a day (actually I use the bars

or RTD)

> now.

>

> Thanks!!

> Cheryl :)

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That's great advice Sara, I too enjoy making a meal out of Precision

Protein and a piece of fruit. It does help you to avoid the " shake "

monotony. I usually just mix up 1 1/2 scoops of PP in a cup of water

and down it in two gulps, then enjoy an orange, banana, grapefruit,

or whatever happens to be lying around. That's easy to do anywhere

there is a water fountain, so it's perfect for work or traveling.

I've found that Precision Protein mixes up pretty well, so you don't

necessarily need a shaker or blender, just a spoon (or even a finger

if no spoon is available) and a cup.

Jarel

> Cheryl,

>

> I'm not sure what Hussman says about fruit - I haven't read it in a

long time although it helped me tremendously in the beginning. I

will tell you how I feel. I follow Body for Life the way it is

written and, according to the book, you are allowed fruit as your

carbohydrate. I love fruit and feel like it is a valuable part of my

nutrition for all of the vitamins and minerals from real food. I

have never worried about the glycemic index of food simply because I

never read anything about it in the book. I now know that I could

tweak a lot of things and probably shave a little bodyfat off if I

would worry about the GI, BUT this is a lifestyle for me and not

eating fruit does not fit into my lifestyle.

>

> As for protein, as you have figured out by know tuna, cottage

cheese and egg whites go a long way in providing you a portion of

protein. I do eat egg beaters for a change but you have to eat a lot

of them to get what you need - I usually eat cottage cheese with it.

I know you don't want to drink more shakes but would you consider

plain protein - such as Precision Protein - where you get your

portion of protein but still need to add a carb? I do that instead

of shakes sometimes because I want to eat fruit. This has worked for

me. I'll be the first to say that if it didn't work for me, I'm sure

I'd start making " tweaks " that aren't in the book. I'm NOT saying

you shouldn't change the program but my advice is to work the program

as written for 12 weeks and then re-evaluate and see if you need to

change it up. Give it the whole 12 weeks to see if it will work for

you.

>

> Sorry for being so long-winded!

>

> Sara

>

>

> OK - after going through Hussman's report for the third time now

(every time

> I read it I pick up something new), I'm a little confused about

eating

> fruits and any help you all can give would be great. I love fruit

and would

> like to be able to eat a piece now and then.

>

> I am also having a hard time with proteins. I would like to eat

more

> veggies, like say for lunch some tomato, celery or a salad. I

cannot

> tolerate cottage cheese and I am not the biggest tuna fan, although

I have

> been eating it (and washing it down with water) because of the high

protein

> content!!

>

> Any help anyone can give regarding the above would be much

appreciated.

> Just looking for other alternatives - I don't want to get into the

habit of

> more shakes to supplement - I do two a day (actually I use the bars

or RTD)

> now.

>

> Thanks!!

> Cheryl :)

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fruit is great, especially grapefruit, cherries and apples. Have them as

your carb. You can have veggies with every meal (in addition to your carb).

I am sorry to hear about your handicap! (not liking cottage cheese. LOL)

Perhaps you can overcome it with counseling! :=) All the best! Kit

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You don't need to be exact, get a good amount of protein with each meal and

don't go crazy on the carbs. Estimate with your fist for whole authorized

foods. Just don't let yourself get too sloppy on a daily basis.

>>>>>Does it all balance out in the end?

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Use Standard Process Inc product: AC Carbamide-it promotes transfer of tissue fluids thru osmosis. Dan Beeson

Nutrition question

I have a 91y.o. female that is battling Gout in her right foot. Her MD is clueless and is not giving her anything, I suggested a naturopath but she is a Kaiser patient and on a very limited budget. So I am appealing to your knowledge and open to anything.

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And switch her off of dairy proteing (very irritating to such a problem/toxicity) to the soy, nut or rice forms of dairy tastes. Sunny ;'-))

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Thank you for the info, the consensus seem to be on cherry juice and other form of cherries, increase in water and reduction in protein. I talk to the young lady this morning and she is on diuretics for blood pressure control. I gave her everybody's wise instructions and I will keep you posted on the results.

Thanks again for the the help.

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Cherry juice , dried cherries and canned cherries along with a resrticted diet ( no beer yeast or other high protein content foods). I have seen this approach work wonderfully. Not always but try it. Colwell

Nutrition question

I have a 91y.o. female that is battling Gout in her right foot. Her MD is clueless and is not giving her anything, I suggested a naturopath but she is a Kaiser patient and on a very limited budget. So I am appealing to your knowledge and open to anything.

M. Côté D.C.

215 West C Street

Silverton, Or

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Cherry juice , dried cherries and canned cherries along with a resrticted diet ( no beer yeast or other high protein content foods). I have seen this approach work wonderfully. Not always but try it. Colwell

Nutrition question

I have a 91y.o. female that is battling Gout in her right foot. Her MD is clueless and is not giving her anything, I suggested a naturopath but she is a Kaiser patient and on a very limited budget. So I am appealing to your knowledge and open to anything.

M. Côté D.C.

215 West C Street

Silverton, Or

cote@...

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Heya there,

First of all don't worry so much about the specific breakdown if you can

get away from it. The palm/fist method works great, then toss in all the

veggies that you want, at least three a day and more if it suits your fancy.

Don't stress about the protein. Protein is hard on your kidneys when you

don't drink enough water, or have a balance of fiber and fat to help carry

it all through. Yes, it'll make those internal organs work, but also gives

your body the building blocks for muscle and for proper function. If you

don't eat enough protein your body cannibalizes your muscles for it, and

muscles that are being broken down even as you're trying to build them up

aren't going to change in size.

If you've not read the bfl book I'd suggest it as it'll help you narrow in

on what you want to accomplish and how to go about it.

Good luck!

~Jena

At 07:56 AM 7/30/2004, you wrote:

>Hi,

>I am new here. I have heard about body for life for a while and am

>interested in trying it out. I am a personal trainer and aerobics

>instructor, but I am on a plateau- I want more definition/muscle and

>less fat. I need that push.

>I know the meal plans are based on a 40/40/20 distribution. But does

>anyone have any samples of a 1500 calorie diet with these

>distributions? I am trying to make one myself, and this is what I

>have come up with daily:

>6 bread, 2 fruit, 1 milk, 9 protein, 3 fat, 3 vegetables, which

>equals 1350 calories.

>

>I am also having a hard time accepting the high protein consumption.

>Protein is so bad for your kidneys. But I am willing to give it a

>try. If some of you can share your experiences with me, I'd love to

>hear.

>Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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You need to read the book that BFL is based on - dont go by what you

think you know or what youve been told or what you even read on

their website (http://www.bodyforlife.com) you have to wipe the

slate clean and not try to organize your foods as you have in the

past.

Stasia gave some good meal examples - eating five to six times a

day, every two to three hours is very key to this program. A

protein, a carb, some fat is not rocket science so dont over

evaluate it ;-)

<<joni>>

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,

You rock! Thank you! That helps me very much- I have to give myself

specific amounts of insulin for each 15 grams of carbs, or one bread

exchange.

This really helps!

> > You need to read the book that BFL is based on - dont go by

what

> you

> > think you know or what youve been told or what you even read on

> > their website (http://www.bodyforlife.com) you have to wipe the

> > slate clean and not try to organize your foods as you have in

the

> > past.

> >

> > Stasia gave some good meal examples - eating five to six times

a

> > day, every two to three hours is very key to this program. A

> > protein, a carb, some fat is not rocket science so dont over

> > evaluate it ;-)

> >

> >

> > <<joni>>

> > *buy the book, live the book, change your life*

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/13/2005 8:03:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mi42779@... writes:

Hi everyone!

I believe more and more that my daughter's clusters of seizures in

June after I started her on multivitamins where due to the iron in

those vitamins. She seems to seize with high intake of iron. Her MCV

and MCH come always slightly elevated-- she could use vitamin b 12

more than anything. On the other hand, I would like to supply her

with b vitamins and other necessary nutrients, while avoiding the

iron, but want to give the nutrients to her in food form. I woud like

to give her nutritious, unprocessed foods that are low in iron and in

mercury, cadmium, and othre toxic metals. I am anxious to do anything

new, since most tries have resulted in more seizures.

Any ideas, any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Mickey

P.S. She has been seizure free since June, and we will start

neurofeedback in a week. I still want to improve her diet, without

causing any major changes.

..

..

>>>> Brewer's yeast and nutritional yeast sprinkled on cereal, yoghurt,

popcorn, salads, in soups, etc., are an excellent source of B vitamins and

amino

acids.

My late son got B-100 complex three times a day along with B6 100 mg also

three times a day, and also biotin, another B vitamin. Helped a lot. Could

never get enough nutrients via diet alone and tried to do that for a couple of

decades. Our idea of processed foods was the occasional bottle of ketchup or

canned pork and beans.

There is iron in spinach and some other leafy greens as well as in some

meats. Check the USDA food databases for more iron containing, non fortified

foods.

mjh

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Quoting lisa lally <tsbbcrw@...>:

As a dietitian (and chiropractor) I can tell you that a high protein

diet (specifically animal source) will create an acid medium.

So - a starting point is to try soy for protein needs unless there is

an allergy. Don't know the official stand of those working with the

diets for autism - but fruits and veggies and baking soda will create

an alkaline medium.

Will be interested to see what other advice you receive.

a Klein

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>

> Hi friends,

> This past week has been very rough for me. My mom (79) has been ill

> for a couple months,losing weight,  and 2 days ago had a colonoscopy

> done. She has a large lesion at the base of her colon. The doc told

> my sister it's probably cancer, but we won't get the results of the

> biopsy  till probably Monday. She doesn't know how serious this

> probably is. I say that because my dad (80) just found out last week

> that he has stage 1 throat cancer, and was beginning radiation

> yesterday. His cure rate is 90%, so they are both in great spirits

> about that. The choice was made not to tell her so she wouldn't

> worry about herself and his radiation.  

> I am beside myself with worry for her (well, him too, but he is at

> stage 1 so it looks good so far). Maybe I just need some kind

> thoughts and prayers, since we don't know what lies ahead yet. It

> would be very difficult to convince her to go homeopathically, even

> though I have read that cancer cannot live in an alkaline body, how

> can I  get them to do that? Does anyone know what I can do first? I

> am feeling stupid, and overwhelmed and SAD right now.

> Thanks to anyone that can help me,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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There are lots of plant sources of protein besides soy. My husband and I are

long-time vegans (30+ and 15+ years) and get plenty of protein. Black beans,

pintos, garbanzos, kidney beans, adzukis, walnuts, pecans, peanuts (if not

allergic), sesame seeds, pepitas, pine nuts, sunflower seeds, etc.

S S

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Fri Oct 3, 2008 3:04 pm (PDT)

We avoid soy here partly due to the estrogen in it, some due to the

genetic manipulation of soy. A reduced animal protein or nut, seed

protein diet might be a better option than substituting with soy. Lots

of info about soy out there. Worth checking into before using it.

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I wouldn't worry much about 'protein' as all fruits and vegetables have

amino acids, which are what 'proteins' are made of. I've been vegan for 34

years

and eat almost no so-called protein foods; just lots of fruits and

vegetables (preferably raw).

Brushing teeth with baking soda is a good suggestion too (the baking soda

a suggested with the fruits and vegetables). Fresh lemons are especially

alkaline, as are watermelons.

A wonderful alkaline drink is fresh orange juice with organic kale blended

in it, high in calcium and iron too, while the vitamin C in the juice helps

the non-heme iron in the kale be absorbed.

For a really interesting book on alkalinity: Sick and Tired: reclaim your

inner terrain Young.

You might also want to check out Cobb's book on healing cancer with

raw foods, wheat grass, etc. or go to one of the Ann Wigmore websites.

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