Re: Re: Heavy metals info please! Cem Kinaci

[Guest guest]

Dear J

 

30mg/kg dosage is just for one time to make a test, not for chelating, (we use

10mg/kg for chelating) you say it is too much, but you used 10mg per pound (this

means more than 20mg/kg) for chelating. This is why you could not tolerate it!

Because you used double dosage of DMSA.

 

Thank you for your help to educate myself !

 

Cem

From: <lindajaytee@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Heavy metals info please! Cem Kinaci

Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 7:17 AM

Dear Cem Kinaci,

Please buy the two books by Dr. Cutler, PhD (see the links

section) and educate yourself.

Challenge tests should never be used because the huge challenge dose

will drive metals INTO the brain and sensitive organs and tissues

leading to long term, irreversible, horrible, worsening of symptoms.

Next time you think challenge test, ask yourself to think about the

" first do no harm " clause.

The dose of 30 mg/kg that you suggest is unbelievable, and, from my

own experience I would say that it would be cruel to administer to a

mercury poisoned person. When I started chelating I had difficulty

tolerating a dose of 1/10 mg per pound.

There is also an interview with Dr. Cutler and Dr. Mark Schauss

at the top of the links section where Dr. Cutler mentions why not to

do challenge tests (part 2). Perhaps listening to the interview will

help people to understand.

J

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> From: Mauricio Circelli <mauricio_circelli@ ...>

> Subject: [ ] Heavy metals info please!

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> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:09 AM

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> Good nights

> Can you   inform  us which are the best test to detect heavy metals

>  How many test it is necessary to do at the child,

>  There exists 1 test that could detect all simultaneously  

>  Thank you for the information ,

>  Marie

>

> Cocina

> Recetas prácticas y comida saludable

> http://ar.mujer. / cocina/

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cem

Its good to have you here on the list, we have oodles of parents but few

DAN's here, I know you are both!

This list is where people come after bad experiences with challenge tests

and high infrequent dosing on the DAN protocol, there are more than 6,000 of us

here

This list is where the very first DAN's who chelated learned how to do it

and with good effect - see Amy Holmes case study series. A couple of years later

DAN! changed the protocol.

This group is all about 'first do no harm' and to take the most safe and

efficient means to rid our kids and ourselves of metals. We do that using the

Cutler protocol, based on science and low frequent dosing to half life of the

agent used.

DMSA 4 hourly

DMPS 8 hourly

ALA 3 hourly

Bigger doses don't equal bigger dumps, I forget how to explain it, anyways

please stay there is heaps of useful stuff here for a guy with an open mind

like you!

Hope all went well at your conference earlier this year

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Cem,

The point J was trying to make (and others) is that the one time

dose for " test " purposes is dangerous. You'll understand once you read

Andy's books. It doeesn't just excrete mercury it moves is dangerously

around. Once it once too much for that large dose. And yes, large

amounts multiple times are bad too.

If you look again at J's post, you will see she said she used 1/10

or 1 tenth mg per pound, not 10 mg per pound. That is much less than

you propose. At our house we started with 1/16 mg or 1 sixteenth mg per

pound. We are talking fractions of milligrams, not full milligrams.

Hope that clears it up a bit for you.

P.

cem kinaci wrote:

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> Dear J

>

> 30mg/kg dosage is just for one time to make a test, not for chelating,

> (we use 10mg/kg for chelating) you say it is too much, but you used

> 10mg per pound (this means more than 20mg/kg) for chelating. This is

> why you could not tolerate it! Because you used double dosage of DMSA.

>

> Thank you for your help to educate myself !

>

> Cem

>

>

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> From: <lindajaytee@... <mailto:lindajaytee%40.ca>>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Heavy metals info please! Cem Kinaci

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 7:17 AM

>

> Dear Cem Kinaci,

>

> Please buy the two books by Dr. Cutler, PhD (see the links

> section) and educate yourself.

>

> Challenge tests should never be used because the huge challenge dose

> will drive metals INTO the brain and sensitive organs and tissues

> leading to long term, irreversible, horrible, worsening of symptoms.

> Next time you think challenge test, ask yourself to think about the

> " first do no harm " clause.

>

> The dose of 30 mg/kg that you suggest is unbelievable, and, from my

> own experience I would say that it would be cruel to administer to a

> mercury poisoned person. When I started chelating I had difficulty

> tolerating a dose of 1/10 mg per pound.

>

> There is also an interview with Dr. Cutler and Dr. Mark Schauss

> at the top of the links section where Dr. Cutler mentions why not to

> do challenge tests (part 2). Perhaps listening to the interview will

> help people to understand.

>

> J

>

>

> >

> > From: Mauricio Circelli <mauricio_circelli@ ...>

> > Subject: [ ] Heavy metals info please!

> >

> > Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:09 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Good nights

> > Can you inform us which are the best test to detect heavy metals

> > How many test it is necessary to do at the child,

> > There exists 1 test that could detect all simultaneously

> > Thank you for the information ,

> > Marie

> >

> > Cocina

> > Recetas prácticas y comida saludable

> > http://ar.mujer. / cocina/

> >

> >

>

>