Re: Prolonged DMSA use - liver stress?, testing necessary?

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I think a liver function test a short time after you begin is definitely

a good idea, just to make sure you don't have any significant liver

issues, that may or may NOT be related to chelation.

However if everything turns up fine, after that I don't think you need

to check it nearly as much as DAN's usually do when they are following

their dangerous chelation protocols.

When we first started, we had a liver function test and everything was

OK. We have been chelating for over a year now, and just had bloods

done again recently and ALT and AST scores were fine.

We have also used liver life a bit, and milk thistle a bit more.

Milk thistle has been shown in studies to be AMAZINGLY effective at

supporting and repairing the liver.

Of course if you started to see signs of liver issues like strong

abdominal pain and jaundice, I would definitely stop chelation at that

point and get tests done to try and identify what the problem was. You

could also keep some N-acetyl-cysteine on standby, which has been used

in emergency rooms for years for liver failure patients and has an

excellent track record of success. However I really don't think its

going to come to anything like that following Andy's protocol.

iflow97 wrote:

>

> I am concerned about prolonged use of DMSA. We have done 10 rounds in

> last 4 months.

> Now we are chelating every weekend. I was wondering if prolonged use

> of DMSA causes

> stress on the child's liver. We do liver support measures, Liver Life

> and Herbathione - milk

> thistle etc. Do you need to test for liver enzymes and neutrophils

> periodically when on DMSA

> for extended periods of time? Our DAN who just does not get the AC

> protocol, no matter

> how hard we try to educate him, well his answer is " you have him on

> DMSA for a few months "

> let's just stop chelation. I think to myself, now there's an idea?!

> Let's just leave the mercury

> alone for a while...I want to answer to him, if you are concerned

> about prolonged usage, we

> could test to see that all is well. But I don't want to put my child

> through unnecessary trauma

> with a blood test if it is not necessary just to prove something to

> this guy.

>

> I was just wondering what others have done who have used DMSA for

> weeks on end. Am I

> worrying unnecessarily? So far our son has been ok. He did have some

> dark circles and

> apparent adrenal fatigue. We have upped the liver support with good

> results, but have not

> really addressed the adrenal fatigue yet, except for letting him eat

> lots of sea salt We have

> been following the thread about Adrenal Cortex Extract, and have it on

> hand, to start if we

> see more evidence of adrenal fatigue.

>

> Would appreciate input form others here using DMSA. Thanks. Irene

>

>

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>

> I am concerned about prolonged use of DMSA. We have done 10 rounds

in last 4 months.

> Now we are chelating every weekend. I was wondering if prolonged use

of DMSA causes

> stress on the child's liver.

sure, it can, although I think how much stress would be a big

question. Both being mercury toxic and detox of mercury also

are stressful to the liver. So, um, that pretty much covers

all options.

> I was just wondering what others have done who have used DMSA for

weeks on end. Am I

> worrying unnecessarily? So far our son has been ok. He did have

some dark circles and

> apparent adrenal fatigue. We have upped the liver support with good

results, but have not

> really addressed the adrenal fatigue yet, except for letting him eat

lots of sea salt We have

> been following the thread about Adrenal Cortex Extract, and have it

on hand, to start if we

> see more evidence of adrenal fatigue.

>

> Would appreciate input form others here using DMSA.

I don't really have an answer to the testing question at the

moment, and I didn't use DMSA. But here are some other things

that are also options:

--use ALA only for chelation (or use DMSA some of the rounds

but not all). ALA is actually HELPFUL to the liver.

Things that are helpful to liver:

--acupunture

--fenugreek sprouts

--beets (in moderation)

--artichokes (related to milk thistle!)

--low or no exposure to chemicals, air pollution, etc. (This

includes household cleaners, shampoo, pesticides on food, etc.)

--low or no intake of meat/dairy (more so for commercial

meat/dairy, less of a problem for organic/no hormones/etc.)

I'm sure I used to have a longer list that I could rattle off LOL.

Oh -- also ozone cupping over the liver -- this one is on the list

" just for drill " -- most people reading this won't have a medical

ozone machine handy -- and the learning curve is long and initial

entry cost is high. Then again, most people have never heard of

fenugreek sprouts or even milk thistle, so you never know what

will be of interest or use to someone.

--dandelion (leaves or root)

--coffee enemas (read Max Gerson)

None of that is meant to detract from milk thistle, which is

kinda " the main herb " (for liver).

good wishes,

Moria