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I feel terrible for you guys. What are the costs?

On Nov 22, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Kate Dorn wrote:

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours

> until he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a

> complete non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at

> wits end with what to try. The only thing he responded to is

> Hyperbarics. And when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified

> moment of progress " I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and

> screaming all day (a severe, severe autistic) to potty trained

> almost over night (after 14 dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND

> NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely we couldn't keep it going financially.

>

> This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have

> no way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We

> asked family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills,

> cars, mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are

> we able to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

>

>

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Have you heard about lend4health? Take a look.

http://lend4health.blogspot.com/ They offer loans - well, not really

" they " - you put up your story, and essentially strangers, or friends

and family, can loan you money for various treatments with no

interest, and you pay back as you're able.

I hear you on the HBOT - we rented a chamber for a month, and just

returned it Friday, so I'm not sure how much it will help my son yet.

He's had some mild improvements in speech so far, but if I see great

things, that will be bad and good - Good because he's been helped, but

bad because we can't afford to rent a chamber again, nor can we afford

to buy one! I'll have to see how he does in the coming weeks, and if

he does great (which it sounds like your son did with HBOT treatment!)

lend4health might be the way to go! I originally thought about

loaning others money on there, but as my husband points out every

month, we're spending more than we're earning every month.

Autism treatment is soooo expensive! It truly sucks, for lack of a

better word.

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How about renting one. Or go to somebody's house and use their chamber for a

fraction of the price.

 

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours

> until he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a

> complete non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at

> wits end with what to try. The only thing he responded to is

> Hyperbarics. And when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified

> moment of progress " I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and

> screaming all day (a severe, severe autistic) to potty trained

> almost over night (after 14 dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND

> NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely we couldn't keep it going financially.

>

> This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have

> no way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We

> asked family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills,

> cars, mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are

> we able to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

>

>

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How about renting one. Or go to somebody's house and use their chamber for a

fraction of the price.

 

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours

> until he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a

> complete non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at

> wits end with what to try. The only thing he responded to is

> Hyperbarics. And when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified

> moment of progress " I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and

> screaming all day (a severe, severe autistic) to potty trained

> almost over night (after 14 dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND

> NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely we couldn't keep it going financially.

>

> This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have

> no way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We

> asked family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills,

> cars, mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are

> we able to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

>

>

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If you have a blog address maybe put your bank account details on

there. Its wierd but there are actually alot of people out their

with $$$ wondering what to do with it!! Here in New Zealand I saw a

documentary on this couple that did a similar thing to rasie money to

pay off their house anyway the weird thing was people donated money!!

And what kind of a course is that?? look into it I am sure if you

google online charities you'll get some ideas, I am intersted in the

chamber your talking about I have not heard about it.

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>   

>       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

>

>

>

>

>

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Have you tried Cutler protocol for chelation?

Often when people see gains from HBOT, which then fade away, they still

have a lot of mercury in their brains.

You might find the HBOT treatments would be longer lasting or even

permanent if you do them AFTER you have addressed mercury in the brain.

Finance is an issue for most people, particularly for HBOT.

Some people see such gains from Cutler protocol, they end up not needing

HBOT.

Kate Dorn wrote:

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is lungs

> out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until he

> decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

>

> This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an answer

> as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no way of

> accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to raise the

> money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked family and

> they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars, mortgage and

> some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able to afford even

> a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say, it

> just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we have

> no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

>

>

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>If you have a blog address maybe put your bank account details on

>there.

I would strongly recommend AGAINST this. There are spiders and

auto-trollers out there just waiting for bank information to be

posted. Once you have an account and routing number you can forge an

AFT (automated funds transfer). And unlike credit cards, there is no

protection/refund process. I have seen bank accounts cleared out this

way. Beware!!!

--

Ralph Nader on the need for moral courage:

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Most people I know who do this set up a Paypal account linked to their

e-mail address - actually, an e-mail address they create specifically to

use Paypal to make it more secure. Paypal isn't 100% perfect, but it is

a so much better option than putting your bank # on the internet.

wrote:

>

> If you have a blog address maybe put your bank account details on

> there. Its wierd but there are actually alot of people out their

> with $$$ wondering what to do with it!! Here in New Zealand I saw a

> documentary on this couple that did a similar thing to rasie money to

> pay off their house anyway the weird thing was people donated money!!

> And what kind of a course is that?? look into it I am sure if you

> google online charities you'll get some ideas, I am intersted in the

> chamber your talking about I have not heard about it.

>

>

> >

> > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

> he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

> >

> > This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

> way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

> family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

> mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

> to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

> >

> > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Kate

I heard of a place that donates time in hard chamber. the unfortunate part

is I DONT REMEMBER the name. I know it wasnt on either coast. I will

really search hard to see if I can find it. There were many families that had

40 to 80 dives free.

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From: P. <the.great.zambini@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:12:39 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

Most people I know who do this set up a Paypal account linked to their

e-mail address - actually, an e-mail address they create specifically to

use Paypal to make it more secure. Paypal isn't 100% perfect, but it is

a so much better option than putting your bank # on the internet.

wrote:

>

> If you have a blog address maybe put your bank account details on

> there. Its wierd but there are actually alot of people out their

> with $$$ wondering what to do with it!! Here in New Zealand I saw a

> documentary on this couple that did a similar thing to rasie money to

> pay off their house anyway the weird thing was people donated money!!

> And what kind of a course is that?? look into it I am sure if you

> google online charities you'll get some ideas, I am intersted in the

> chamber your talking about I have not heard about it.

>

>

> >

> > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

> he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

> >

> > This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

> way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

> family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

> mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

> to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

> >

> > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Were the dives that

your son did in a hard or soft chamber? I'd really like to know, as

that is pretty amazing progress for 14 dives.

Hard chamber dives tend to be more expensive per dive, but you need

to do less overall. If you did soft chamber dives, there is a

company that offers $30 per dive, but they are only in Arizona, I

think.

Another suggestion is to network on the various message boards.

Perhaps there is a family close to where you are located who might be

willing to share a chamber. More and more families are buying their

own chambers and finding creative ways to share the cost.

Good luck.

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>   

>       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

>

>

>

>

>

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Kate

Email me off list. I have the information on the hbot charity.

EB

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From: lvtoeat2 <lvtoeat2@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:27:45 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Were the dives that

your son did in a hard or soft chamber? I'd really like to know, as

that is pretty amazing progress for 14 dives.

Hard chamber dives tend to be more expensive per dive, but you need

to do less overall. If you did soft chamber dives, there is a

company that offers $30 per dive, but they are only in Arizona, I

think.

Another suggestion is to network on the various message boards.

Perhaps there is a family close to where you are located who might be

willing to share a chamber. More and more families are buying their

own chambers and finding creative ways to share the cost.

Good luck.

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>   

>       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

>

>

>

>

>

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Could it be Miracle Mountain?

>

> If you have a blog address maybe put your bank account details on

> there. Its wierd but there are actually alot of people out their

> with $$$ wondering what to do with it!! Here in New Zealand I saw a

> documentary on this couple that did a similar thing to rasie money to

> pay off their house anyway the weird thing was people donated money!!

> And what kind of a course is that?? look into it I am sure if you

> google online charities you'll get some ideas, I am intersted in the

> chamber your talking about I have not heard about it.

>

>

> >

> > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

> he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

> >

> > This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

> way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

> family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

> mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

> to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

> >

> > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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AWESOME!!!!!! Oh man,, I hope your remember!!!   lol!!!

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From: Evan Bruinooge <evbru68@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:25:03 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

Kate

I heard of a place that donates time in hard chamber. the unfortunate part

is I DONT REMEMBER the name. I know it wasnt on either coast. I will

really search hard to see if I can find it. There were many families that had

40 to 80 dives free.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: P. <the.great.zambini@ gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:12:39 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

Most people I know who do this set up a Paypal account linked to their

e-mail address - actually, an e-mail address they create specifically to

use Paypal to make it more secure. Paypal isn't 100% perfect, but it is

a so much better option than putting your bank # on the internet.

wrote:

>

> If you have a blog address maybe put your bank account details on

> there. Its wierd but there are actually alot of people out their

> with $$$ wondering what to do with it!! Here in New Zealand I saw a

> documentary on this couple that did a similar thing to rasie money to

> pay off their house anyway the weird thing was people donated money!!

> And what kind of a course is that?? look into it I am sure if you

> google online charities you'll get some ideas, I am intersted in the

> chamber your talking about I have not heard about it.

>

>

> >

> > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

> he decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

> >

> > This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

> way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

> family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

> mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

> to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

> >

> > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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stupid stupid question, but is offline e-mailing someone directly to their

e-mail address or is it something else??

________________________________

From: Evan Bruinooge <evbru68@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:34:30 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

Kate

Email me off list. I have the information on the hbot charity.

EB

____________ _________ _________ __

From: lvtoeat2 <lvtoeat2 (DOT) com>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:27:45 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Were the dives that

your son did in a hard or soft chamber? I'd really like to know, as

that is pretty amazing progress for 14 dives.

Hard chamber dives tend to be more expensive per dive, but you need

to do less overall. If you did soft chamber dives, there is a

company that offers $30 per dive, but they are only in Arizona, I

think.

Another suggestion is to network on the various message boards.

Perhaps there is a family close to where you are located who might be

willing to share a chamber. More and more families are buying their

own chambers and finding creative ways to share the cost.

Good luck.

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>   

>       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

>

>

>

>

>

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--------- [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

>

> I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Were the dives that

> your son did in a hard or soft chamber? I'd really like to know, as

> that is pretty amazing progress for 14 dives.

>

> Hard chamber dives tend to be more expensive per dive, but you need

> to do less overall. If you did soft chamber dives, there is a

> company that offers $30 per dive, but they are only in Arizona, I

> think.

>

> Another suggestion is to network on the various message boards.

> Perhaps there is a family close to where you are located who might be

> willing to share a chamber. More and more families are buying their

> own chambers and finding creative ways to share the cost.

>

> Good luck.

>

>

> >

> > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

> lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

> he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

> >   

> >       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

> answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

> way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

> raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

> family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

> mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

> to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

> >

> > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Directly. Its not a stupid question. My e-mail is evbru68@...

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From: Kate Dorn <katedorn@...>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:03:43 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

stupid stupid question, but is offline e-mailing someone directly to their

e-mail address or is it something else??

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From: Evan Bruinooge <evbru68 (DOT) com>

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

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From: lvtoeat2 <lvtoeat2 (DOT) com>

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:27:45 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: I have to vent!!!

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Were the dives that

your son did in a hard or soft chamber? I'd really like to know, as

that is pretty amazing progress for 14 dives.

Hard chamber dives tend to be more expensive per dive, but you need

to do less overall. If you did soft chamber dives, there is a

company that offers $30 per dive, but they are only in Arizona, I

think.

Another suggestion is to network on the various message boards.

Perhaps there is a family close to where you are located who might be

willing to share a chamber. More and more families are buying their

own chambers and finding creative ways to share the cost.

Good luck.

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>   

>       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

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Kate, could you please tell us what else you have tried and what his

diet is like? I don't believe HBOT will address the underlying cause

of the problem, it will just alleviate the inflammation and free

radical damage for a period of time.

I believe most of our kids have food allergies because the vaccines

induce them. Food proteins and aluminum are used to induce allergies

in lab rats. Interesting they are the same things used in vaccines.

If you eliminate the food ingredients of his vaccines, I believe he

will improve tremendously. One of the problems with DAN! is that

they recommend Kirkman flavored vitamins that may contain MSG (they

couln't tell me the source of their natural flavors). MSG causes

free radical damage and my son did much better when I eliminated all

forms from his diet. It is also possible that if your son is taking

a multivitamin, he cannot tolerate something in it. My son couldn't

take synthetic B vitamins and reacts badly to niacin in any product.

So for what it's worth, I think food has a lot to do with it. We

have never done HBOT, yet my son is a changed man since food removal

and Andy Cutler protocol.

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until

he decides to take a nap.    Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!  Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>   

>       This is the most frustrating situation EVER!  I have an

answer as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no

way of accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to

raise the money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars,

mortgage and some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able

to afford even a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found  a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it.   Just needed to vent!!

>

>

>

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Kate,

Andy has written in past posts that children who respond well to HBOT

also generally respond well to 100% oxygen. How about trying this as

an alternative? It's probably easier and cheaper to arrange than HBOT.

He's also written that kids who are HBOT responders have poor brain

perfusion, so consider trying perfusion enhancers that help the flow

of oxygen to the brain as a substitute for HBOT. Hydergine is

something that can help (it's Rx), gingko too. There must be other

supplements or Rx that can help with blood flow but I can't think of

the others right now.

We tried hydergine here and didn't find that it helped much. But a few

others on the list have used it, including Andy, and found that it can

really help if it's warranted.

Sorry if this has been mentioned by others in this thread, I haven't

read all replies.

HTH,

>

> OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is lungs

out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until he

decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

we couldn't keep it going financially.

>

> This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an answer

as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no way of

accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to raise the

money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked family and

they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars, mortgage and

some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able to afford even

a payment on a chamber right now.

>

> I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

>

>

>

>

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Great suggestions . I don't recall anyone else suggesting it for

this thread.

Ginkgo Biloba has been working well for us.

I agree a trial of ginko is definitely warranted if it has not been

trialled already.

iam2l84t wrote:

>

> Kate,

>

> Andy has written in past posts that children who respond well to HBOT

> also generally respond well to 100% oxygen. How about trying this as

> an alternative? It's probably easier and cheaper to arrange than HBOT.

>

> He's also written that kids who are HBOT responders have poor brain

> perfusion, so consider trying perfusion enhancers that help the flow

> of oxygen to the brain as a substitute for HBOT. Hydergine is

> something that can help (it's Rx), gingko too. There must be other

> supplements or Rx that can help with blood flow but I can't think of

> the others right now.

>

> We tried hydergine here and didn't find that it helped much. But a few

> others on the list have used it, including Andy, and found that it can

> really help if it's warranted.

>

> Sorry if this has been mentioned by others in this thread, I haven't

> read all replies.

>

> HTH,

>

>

>

> >

> > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is lungs

> out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until he

> decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits end

> with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics. And

> when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of progress "

> I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day (a

> severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night (after 14

> dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!! Unfortuantely

> we couldn't keep it going financially.

> >

> > This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an answer

> as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no way of

> accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to raise the

> money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked family and

> they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars, mortgage and

> some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able to afford even

> a payment on a chamber right now.

> >

> > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to say,

> it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > > OK - so as I sit here and type right now Ethan is screaming is

lungs

> > out at the wall and like usual this will go on for hours until he

> > decides to take a nap. Long story short. My son is a complete

> > non-responder to biomed and our dan docs are completely at wits

end

> > with what to try. The only thing he responded to is Hyperbarics.

And

> > when I say responded I don't mean " one glorified moment of

progress "

> > I mean he went from non-verbal, in diapers and screaming all day

(a

> > severe, severe autistic) to potty trained almost over night

(after 14

> > dives) and saying almost 40 words, AND NO SCREAMING!!

Unfortuantely

> > we couldn't keep it going financially.

> > >

> > > This is the most frustrating situation EVER! I have an answer

> > as to how to get Ethan better, if not recovered and I have no way

of

> > accessing it. We've tried holding 2 different benefits to raise

the

> > money for a home chamber and they both were flops. We asked

family and

> > they said no. We make enough to cover our bills, cars, mortgage

and

> > some of Ethan's treatments. But by no means are we able to afford

even

> > a payment on a chamber right now.

> > >

> > > I'm sorry to sound like a whiny baby with nothing positive to

say,

> > it just sucks big time that we found a way out of this hell and we

> > have no way getting it. Just needed to vent!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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