Re: possible suggestion for your daughter's evening rough spells

[Guest guest]

I really apprecitate this information.

On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:42 PM, dana pope wrote:

> Hi !

>

> I have noticed your posts where you mention that your daughter does

> well during the day and then at night time every thing just gets

> terrible for her.

>

> I was following some posts and noticed one Mom said that her son

> would be fine during the day and then at night time every thing

> would be horrible and when she treated him for parasites, this

> problem went away and he was able to be calm at night time as well

> as during the day.

>

> Could your daughter's problems be due to parasites? Have you ever

> treated for them? Just thought I would suggest looking into that.

> I have noticed that my boys act wierd at the full moon or new moon

> and it has been suggested that that is when parasites reproduce.

> So, now I am checking into a whole new way of treating my boys as

> well as chelation and treating for yeast and supplements.

>

> Thought I would share. Hope you are having a good Thanksgiving.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

It was suggested to me from another support group that treating with Paratrex

for two weeks and then one week of Artemesia and Cloves by Bio Ray and then one

week off and then start over.  So, that is what I am going to do.  I will update

you on if I see any improvements with my two boys.

 

Dana

> Hi !

>

> I have noticed your posts where you mention that your daughter does

> well during the day and then at night time every thing just gets

> terrible for her.

>

> I was following some posts and noticed one Mom said that her son

> would be fine during the day and then at night time every thing

> would be horrible and when she treated him for parasites, this

> problem went away and he was able to be calm at night time as well

> as during the day.

>

> Could your daughter's problems be due to parasites? Have you ever

> treated for them? Just thought I would suggest looking into that.

> I have noticed that my boys act wierd at the full moon or new moon

> and it has been suggested that that is when parasites reproduce.

> So, now I am checking into a whole new way of treating my boys as

> well as chelation and treating for yeast and supplements.

>

> Thought I would share. Hope you are having a good Thanksgiving.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would really apprecitate it! do your boys not go to sleep either?

On Nov 27, 2008, at 2:22 PM, dana pope wrote:

> It was suggested to me from another support group that treating

> with Paratrex for two weeks and then one week of Artemesia and

> Cloves by Bio Ray and then one week off and then start over. So,

> that is what I am going to do. I will update you on if I see any

> improvements with my two boys.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

> > Hi !

> >

> > I have noticed your posts where you mention that your daughter does

> > well during the day and then at night time every thing just gets

> > terrible for her.

> >

> > I was following some posts and noticed one Mom said that her son

> > would be fine during the day and then at night time every thing

> > would be horrible and when she treated him for parasites, this

> > problem went away and he was able to be calm at night time as well

> > as during the day.

> >

> > Could your daughter's problems be due to parasites? Have you ever

> > treated for them? Just thought I would suggest looking into that.

> > I have noticed that my boys act wierd at the full moon or new moon

> > and it has been suggested that that is when parasites reproduce.

> > So, now I am checking into a whole new way of treating my boys as

> > well as chelation and treating for yeast and supplements.

> >

> > Thought I would share. Hope you are having a good Thanksgiving.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

yes, pinworm infection is quite common, often asymptomatic (or nearly

so) and easily spread among young kids and family members in close

contact (eggs are microscopic and live outside the body for 2-3 weeks).

So changing undies and nightclothes every day and even changing

bedsheets every day or two during the time you're treating is also

important (what a pain!)

But it's short term and prevents reinfestation.

Short nails and , well, this thread on Mothering has a ton of info.

(http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=769115)

all the best,

Liora

[Guest guest]

,

 

My boys would jump in their cribs for hours after we put them to bed before they

could settle down to sleep.  They weren't upset - just could not settle down to

sleep.  Then they would wake up again any where from 3-5am ready to go for the

day.  So, we got very little sleep for a long time.

 

But after getting them off of casein and gluten and other problematic foods and

discovering melatonin, they started to go to sleep pretty quickly.  But they

were still waking up any where from 1-3 am ready to go for the day.  After I

discovered 5HTP and Liver Life, they now will go to sleep as soon as I put them

to bed and will sleep for about 12 hours.  Which is good because they are four

years old.

 

But I feel for you because they did not sleep for the first three years of their

lives. 

 

I feel parasited may still be a problem due to their strange behaviour at the

new moon and full moon and their bloated bellies.

 

Hope you can figure every thing out. 

 

Dana

>

> > Hi !

> >

> > I have noticed your posts where you mention that your daughter does

> > well during the day and then at night time every thing just gets

> > terrible for her.

> >

> > I was following some posts and noticed one Mom said that her son

> > would be fine during the day and then at night time every thing

> > would be horrible and when she treated him for parasites, this

> > problem went away and he was able to be calm at night time as well

> > as during the day.

> >

> > Could your daughter's problems be due to parasites? Have you ever

> > treated for them? Just thought I would suggest looking into that.

> > I have noticed that my boys act wierd at the full moon or new moon

> > and it has been suggested that that is when parasites reproduce.

> > So, now I am checking into a whole new way of treating my boys as

> > well as chelation and treating for yeast and supplements.

> >

> > Thought I would share. Hope you are having a good Thanksgiving.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I really feel my dd big problem is due to seizures activity. I am

treating them with B6 and seeing some good results. I am a bit

confused though and this is why: I am not sure if the seizures are

due to lack of oxygen at birth or a virus from the Hep B vaccine, so

I am treating with all these B's but ... at some point I feel I

should try pulling out the virus or perhaps using the HBOT for the

lack of oxygen. Does this sound reasonable to you?

On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:45 AM, dana pope wrote:

> ,

>

> My boys would jump in their cribs for hours after we put them to

> bed before they could settle down to sleep. They weren't upset -

> just could not settle down to sleep. Then they would wake up again

> any where from 3-5am ready to go for the day. So, we got very

> little sleep for a long time.

>

> But after getting them off of casein and gluten and other

> problematic foods and discovering melatonin, they started to go to

> sleep pretty quickly. But they were still waking up any where from

> 1-3 am ready to go for the day. After I discovered 5HTP and Liver

> Life, they now will go to sleep as soon as I put them to bed and

> will sleep for about 12 hours. Which is good because they are four

> years old.

>

> But I feel for you because they did not sleep for the first three

> years of their lives.

>

> I feel parasited may still be a problem due to their strange

> behaviour at the new moon and full moon and their bloated bellies.

>

> Hope you can figure every thing out.

>

> Dana

>

>

> >

> > > Hi !

> > >

> > > I have noticed your posts where you mention that your daughter

> does

> > > well during the day and then at night time every thing just gets

> > > terrible for her.

> > >

> > > I was following some posts and noticed one Mom said that her son

> > > would be fine during the day and then at night time every thing

> > > would be horrible and when she treated him for parasites, this

> > > problem went away and he was able to be calm at night time as well

> > > as during the day.

> > >

> > > Could your daughter's problems be due to parasites? Have you ever

> > > treated for them? Just thought I would suggest looking into that.

> > > I have noticed that my boys act wierd at the full moon or new moon

> > > and it has been suggested that that is when parasites reproduce.

> > > So, now I am checking into a whole new way of treating my boys as

> > > well as chelation and treating for yeast and supplements.

> > >

> > > Thought I would share. Hope you are having a good Thanksgiving.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Melatonin will definitely get my dd to sleep... but it gives her

nightmares and makes her mean the next day.

On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:45 AM, dana pope wrote:

> ,

>

> My boys would jump in their cribs for hours after we put them to

> bed before they could settle down to sleep. They weren't upset -

> just could not settle down to sleep. Then they would wake up again

> any where from 3-5am ready to go for the day. So, we got very

> little sleep for a long time.

>

> But after getting them off of casein and gluten and other

> problematic foods and discovering melatonin, they started to go to

> sleep pretty quickly. But they were still waking up any where from

> 1-3 am ready to go for the day. After I discovered 5HTP and Liver

> Life, they now will go to sleep as soon as I put them to bed and

> will sleep for about 12 hours. Which is good because they are four

> years old.

>

> But I feel for you because they did not sleep for the first three

> years of their lives.

>

> I feel parasited may still be a problem due to their strange

> behaviour at the new moon and full moon and their bloated bellies.

>

> Hope you can figure every thing out.

>

> Dana

>

>

> >

> > > Hi !

> > >

> > > I have noticed your posts where you mention that your daughter

> does

> > > well during the day and then at night time every thing just gets

> > > terrible for her.

> > >

> > > I was following some posts and noticed one Mom said that her son

> > > would be fine during the day and then at night time every thing

> > > would be horrible and when she treated him for parasites, this

> > > problem went away and he was able to be calm at night time as well

> > > as during the day.

> > >

> > > Could your daughter's problems be due to parasites? Have you ever

> > > treated for them? Just thought I would suggest looking into that.

> > > I have noticed that my boys act wierd at the full moon or new moon

> > > and it has been suggested that that is when parasites reproduce.

> > > So, now I am checking into a whole new way of treating my boys as

> > > well as chelation and treating for yeast and supplements.

> > >

> > > Thought I would share. Hope you are having a good Thanksgiving.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

, if melatonin caused nightmares, then the dosage was too high.

Alhtough I haven't read too much about it, but it could've also contributed

to her mean behavior the next day. I know some people need more, but my 4yo

only needs a sliver of a 1mg sublingual. I take 1 1mg sublingual sometimes,

and if I take more than that my dreams get really strange.

[Guest guest]

>

> Melatonin will definitely get my dd to sleep... but it gives her

> nightmares and makes her mean the next day.

Some thoughts, and I apologize if you know all this already:

When someone is sleep deprived for a long time and starts sleeping

again, they end up having vivid dreams. Most people experience these

as " nightmares " . I have found that knowing in advance that I will

have intense, vivid dreams makes them less likely to be experienced as

nightmares. No matter what method you use to get her to sleep, if she

has been sleep deprived a long time, you will likely see a stage where

she has nightmares.

My 21 year old son did some reading on melatonin. It apparently does

something important for immune function as well. I think one reason

melatonin may contribute to nightmares is due to the lymphatic system

putting stress on the heart while sleeping. I sometimes wake up

feeling like I have severely low blood sugar but what I have figured

on in recent months is that shaky feeling can also be cause by my

immune system working hard and putting stress on my heart with all the

toxins being dumped (at least that's my best mental model). I used to

be severely hypoglycemic and I always thought " the shakes " was purely

about low blood sugar. But my blood sugar is far more stable these

days and I still sometimes get them.

If the nightmares are caused in part by the fact that it supports the

immune system and causes some kind of healing crisis during sleep,

co-q-10 in the morning might help. It is good heart support and it is

the co-factor for melatonin. Taking melatonin won't cause you to make

more co-q-10 but taking co-q-10 will cause your body to make more

melatonin about 12 hours later. Most of the time, I take co-q-10 in

the morning but don't take melatonin at night. I have been taking

melatonin at night recently. For someone whose brain is very

chemically out of whack, I recommend you do both to help the brain

establish the right chemical waking and sleep cycle. If melatonin is

not tolerated well (and I couldn't tolerate it at one time -- I felt

like I couldn't fully wake up for days after taking one pill), then I

recommend taking co-q-10 in the morning and not taking melatonin. I

now tolerate melatonin, though I buy a low dose brand and take lots of

little pills rather than one or two big pills because I have finer

control over dosage that way.

Melatonin is currently the best thing I can take when I get certain

pains in my teeth that nothing else helps. I'm reasonably sure it's

some kind of infection trying to hide in the two teeth that had root

canals and are therefore " dead " and not fully accessed by my immune

system. I have tried olive leaf extract, oil of oregano and other

things, with little to no effect. A bunch of melatonin in the evening

does wonders. So I feel strongly that some of the stress I have when

I take melatonin is because it supports my body's ability to battle

some things. Die off could be part of why your child is mean the next

day.

Peace and good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

[Guest guest]

She only needs a teeny teeny bit to knock her out. I think she may

have a hard time with methyl donors. Do you happen to know of a good

seizure group? I would love to talk to them about what they are

trying to help with their children.

On Nov 28, 2008, at 11:54 AM, McCartney wrote:

> , if melatonin caused nightmares, then the dosage was too high.

> Alhtough I haven't read too much about it, but it could've also

> contributed

> to her mean behavior the next day. I know some people need more,

> but my 4yo

> only needs a sliver of a 1mg sublingual. I take 1 1mg sublingual

> sometimes,

> and if I take more than that my dreams get really strange.

>

>

[Guest guest]

, no, I don't know of any good seizure groups. But you can try

searching for one in , or mothering.com's forums are usually

full of good info. GL!

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Arias

<thinkingheads@...>wrote:

> She only needs a teeny teeny bit to knock her out. I think she may

> have a hard time with methyl donors. Do you happen to know of a good

> seizure group? I would love to talk to them about what they are

> trying to help with their children.

>